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#1 Feb 14 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Forget the archer knife theres a better knife out there that Ranger/Beast master only its called the Hawkers Knife



+11Ranged Acc
+2 Agi
+2 Chr

and it kicks ****..to bad no one knows were to get it yet :(

Edited, Sat Feb 14 15:40:52 2004 by FeKrim
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#2 Feb 14 2004 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Couple that with as NIN with a Fransisca and it's a good combo. However it seems the Fransisca drops off a lvl 70 mob.. so it'll be a while before anyone gets that (rare/ex).

I also heard the Hawker's Knife was rare/ex, but I doubt that's true. But until someone finds out where to get the Hawker's Knife, Archer's Knives still reign supreme.
#3 Feb 14 2004 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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hawkers knifes, those things sell for 100k,pretty steep.
#4 Feb 14 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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the fransisca is okay, if you want to use axes...but archers knives are still better...cant wait to figure out whos head i have to severe to get these
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#5 Feb 14 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Not all that steep, if you compare it to other things a RNG should be using. The high level bows are 60-90k, not mentioning bows like Eurytos' Bow (2.5 million). Emperor Hairpin, 200k. Leaping Boots, 200k. 100k for those kind of stats is actually pretty sweet, especially at lvl 30.
#6 Feb 14 2004 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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i agree with Defunkt; its not that steep ill propley just buy two of them if there even at my AH

Edited, Sat Feb 14 15:35:07 2004 by FeKrim
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#7 Feb 14 2004 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd rather use a Fransisca in one hand and Hawker's Knife in the other. I havn't started my RNG yet (need hairpin/boots), but when I do I'm lvling up my Axe skill for that weapon.

I'd rather have +7 R.Attk and +18 R.Acc total than +22 R.Acc. Plus those AGI bonuses.. mmmm.... /em drools.
#8 Feb 14 2004 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Fransisca in one hand / Hawker's Knife in the other would be a good combo, youd still get a good +ranged acc bonuse and youd be able to do some damage...

but id still rather use 2 hawkers knives or 2 archers knives but thats just me
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#9 Feb 14 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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This Fransisca sounds pretty nice. It's tempting me to raise my axe skills a bit.

I just have a guess on the Hawker's Knife (and that's all it is a guess). Over on the western side of Valkrum I found a cave while doing the Bard quest. Turned on widescan after entering and saw some Goblin Hawker's listed as some of the mobs. It's a long shot, but maybe it's a rare drop off of them, or an NM in that area.

I didn't stick around since I've found in MMO's, "If you don't know what it is, it will probably be able to kill you easily"
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#10 Feb 14 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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2 Archer's :
R.Acc + 20
AGI + 2

2 Hawkers :
R.Acc + 22
AGI/CHR + 4

Fransisca / Hawker :
R.Acc + 18
R.Attk + 7
AGI/CHR + 2



For myself, this is how it'll go :
lvl 28 : 2 Archer's Knives
lvl 30 : 2 Hawker's Kinves
lvl 68-70 : 1 Fransisca, 1 Hawker's Knife

Fransisca to use is lvl 63, but it's rare/ex and drops from a lvl 70 mob, so at lvl 68 or so I should be able to grab one with a party (I'm not one to get help from high level players).
#11 Feb 14 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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my geuse is that its an exceptional synth thing from the archers knife...you can synth archers knifes cant you?
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#12 Feb 14 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The area that you entered is called Gustav Tunnel, of the Vollbow region. Hawkers are of the Damselfly class, and they're great experience for levels 38-42 (along with the **** Bats and the Tier 5 Goblins in there).

We have killed tons of Hawkers in there while xping, and still have yet to see a NM spawn.
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#13 Feb 14 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Archer's Knives are a mob drop, I don't know if you can synth them. It's a possibility, since the names are similar. If Archer Knives can be synthed, my guess is the Hawker's Knives are HQ synths.
#14 Feb 14 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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and with a Fransisca / Hawker you would do more damage...

but id still rather go with the Hawker / Hawker
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#15 Feb 14 2004 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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i know the archers knives are NM drop; i was just wandering if you could synth them
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#16 Feb 14 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm be pretty funny if hawkers knifes droped off guivre. even though he only drops some **** skull.
#17 Feb 14 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I've seen them on sale in Jueno. I've also seen hawker knife +1. I don't remember the price, but...it was a lot.
#18 Feb 14 2004 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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hawker knive is a synthing recipy, where the archer knive is one of the ingredients, another one of the ingriedients is a NM drop of which name I cannot remember. (kinda tough NM though)
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#19 Feb 14 2004 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the Hawker Knife is a HQ synth involving Archer Knife and a drop from a LV70+ dragon.

Good luck.
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#20 Feb 14 2004 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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How'd you find that out? What's the recipe?
#21 Feb 14 2004 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, and what lvl craft? I know hawker's are synth because the only way to get +1 is synthing.
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#22 Feb 15 2004 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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but how do you know theres even a such thing as a +1 of these things?
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#23 Feb 15 2004 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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#24 Feb 16 2004 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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yes and that costs 600k on my server ( 3 million for the + 1 version) compared to 10k for the archer knife.....

hmm 1 more agi and 1 more ranged accuracy for 590k more? what kinda idiot do you think i am mr salesman :P
#25 Feb 16 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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I think most people will be sticking to Archer's Knives for quite a while before any are buying Hawkers or Hawkers +1. But if I could afford it, I'd get them too.
#26 Feb 22 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Hawkers knife is Wind + Archer's Knife + Dragon Blood + Beastmen Blood + demon blood..i think.
lvl 80 or so alchemy to do
#27 Feb 22 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I just read that somewhere, I already have my Alchemy skill started... lvl 1!! Maybe by the time I'm a 60 RNG I'll have the skill to make them :D.
#28 Feb 22 2004 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm i remember asking that question in another forum and the answer was it was a HQ synth
1 archers knife+ dragons blood (500k on pandemonium) + water crystal. it could be wrong but heck i dont have the money for it lol just bought my war bow +1 cause all the bows after lvl 30 are selling out like crazy i wonder why..
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#29 Feb 27 2004 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Last time i checked on Siren Hawkers knife was 750K/each, if you guys have that kind of $$ /praise /panic motion ^_^

I have dual archers knives atm (lvl 34) and i hit 18/20 on ITs and if 750K is gonna give me 1 or 2 more hits / 20 shots <Thanks for the Offer But I'll have to pass> I already draw too much hate.

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#30 Feb 27 2004 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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It's one of those 'best of the best' pieces of equipment. I plan on getting one (750K isn't that much for a weapon you will use for the rest of your RNG career), but would much rather have the +1 version. Does anyone need them? No not really, but how cool would it be to walk around with Hawker's +1 equipped :D. I'd be proud to own one.

Edited, Fri Feb 27 17:59:29 2004 by defunkt
#31 Feb 28 2004 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Hawkers Knife:
Archers Knife + Dragons Blood + Water. Alchemy synth of skill minimum 90.
-for +1, +1 @ 350,000k <------**** that. Invite A Bard. More milage.

-750k on your server? well. um. no.

-Hawkers Knife or...Euryto's bow. If u can save up 750k for a +1 dag...save it and get the bow. Last one youll ever need.
#32 Feb 28 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't plan on buying that bow, why would you waste your time saving up 2.5 mil (price on Diabolos)? The NM is only lvl 63, and I'm sure could be taken down without much trouble by a group of mid 50's. I plan on camping for my Eurytos' Bow.

And like I said, Hawkers +1 is a 'just because' thing. Why do I want to spend 750k for +1 on two stats? Just because.

And if it's only 350k on your server that's pretty cheap.
#33 Feb 28 2004 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
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HAha, i guess you never fought a Dark Elvaan before. Your will need a full Pt. of lvl 70+. Even the Ka i fought has a special attack doing 500-600 and i've seen them use it 2 time in a row on a dead paladin. Not even going to think what the Shadows cold do.
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