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#1 Feb 14 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Forget the archer knife theres a better knife out there that Ranger/Beast master only its called the Hawkers Knife



+11Ranged Acc
+2 Agi
+2 Chr

and it kicks ***..to bad no one knows were to get it yet :(

Edited, Sat Feb 14 15:40:52 2004 by FeKrim
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#2 Feb 14 2004 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Couple that with as NIN with a Fransisca and it's a good combo. However it seems the Fransisca drops off a lvl 70 mob.. so it'll be a while before anyone gets that (rare/ex).

I also heard the Hawker's Knife was rare/ex, but I doubt that's true. But until someone finds out where to get the Hawker's Knife, Archer's Knives still reign supreme.
#3 Feb 14 2004 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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hawkers knifes, those things sell for 100k,pretty steep.
#4 Feb 14 2004 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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the fransisca is okay, if you want to use axes...but archers knives are still better...cant wait to figure out whos head i have to severe to get these
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#5 Feb 14 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Not all that steep, if you compare it to other things a RNG should be using. The high level bows are 60-90k, not mentioning bows like Eurytos' Bow (2.5 million). Emperor Hairpin, 200k. Leaping Boots, 200k. 100k for those kind of stats is actually pretty sweet, especially at lvl 30.
#6 Feb 14 2004 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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i agree with Defunkt; its not that steep ill propley just buy two of them if there even at my AH

Edited, Sat Feb 14 15:35:07 2004 by FeKrim
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#7 Feb 14 2004 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd rather use a Fransisca in one hand and Hawker's Knife in the other. I havn't started my RNG yet (need hairpin/boots), but when I do I'm lvling up my Axe skill for that weapon.

I'd rather have +7 R.Attk and +18 R.Acc total than +22 R.Acc. Plus those AGI bonuses.. mmmm.... /em drools.
#8 Feb 14 2004 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Fransisca in one hand / Hawker's Knife in the other would be a good combo, youd still get a good +ranged acc bonuse and youd be able to do some damage...

but id still rather use 2 hawkers knives or 2 archers knives but thats just me
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#9 Feb 14 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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This Fransisca sounds pretty nice. It's tempting me to raise my axe skills a bit.

I just have a guess on the Hawker's Knife (and that's all it is a guess). Over on the western side of Valkrum I found a cave while doing the Bard quest. Turned on widescan after entering and saw some Goblin Hawker's listed as some of the mobs. It's a long shot, but maybe it's a rare drop off of them, or an NM in that area.

I didn't stick around since I've found in MMO's, "If you don't know what it is, it will probably be able to kill you easily"
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#10 Feb 14 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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2 Archer's :
R.Acc + 20
AGI + 2

2 Hawkers :
R.Acc + 22
AGI/CHR + 4

Fransisca / Hawker :
R.Acc + 18
R.Attk + 7
AGI/CHR + 2



For myself, this is how it'll go :
lvl 28 : 2 Archer's Knives
lvl 30 : 2 Hawker's Kinves
lvl 68-70 : 1 Fransisca, 1 Hawker's Knife

Fransisca to use is lvl 63, but it's rare/ex and drops from a lvl 70 mob, so at lvl 68 or so I should be able to grab one with a party (I'm not one to get help from high level players).
#11 Feb 14 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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my geuse is that its an exceptional synth thing from the archers knife...you can synth archers knifes cant you?
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#12 Feb 14 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The area that you entered is called Gustav Tunnel, of the Vollbow region. Hawkers are of the Damselfly class, and they're great experience for levels 38-42 (along with the **** Bats and the Tier 5 Goblins in there).

We have killed tons of Hawkers in there while xping, and still have yet to see a NM spawn.
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#13 Feb 14 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Archer's Knives are a mob drop, I don't know if you can synth them. It's a possibility, since the names are similar. If Archer Knives can be synthed, my guess is the Hawker's Knives are HQ synths.
#14 Feb 14 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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and with a Fransisca / Hawker you would do more damage...

but id still rather go with the Hawker / Hawker
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#15 Feb 14 2004 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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i know the archers knives are NM drop; i was just wandering if you could synth them
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#16 Feb 14 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm be pretty funny if hawkers knifes droped off guivre. even though he only drops some **** skull.
#17 Feb 14 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I've seen them on sale in Jueno. I've also seen hawker knife +1. I don't remember the price, but...it was a lot.
#18 Feb 14 2004 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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hawker knive is a synthing recipy, where the archer knive is one of the ingredients, another one of the ingriedients is a NM drop of which name I cannot remember. (kinda tough NM though)
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#19 Feb 14 2004 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the Hawker Knife is a HQ synth involving Archer Knife and a drop from a LV70+ dragon.

Good luck.
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#20 Feb 14 2004 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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How'd you find that out? What's the recipe?
#21 Feb 14 2004 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, and what lvl craft? I know hawker's are synth because the only way to get +1 is synthing.
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#22 Feb 15 2004 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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but how do you know theres even a such thing as a +1 of these things?
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#23 Feb 15 2004 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=270707&highlight=fafnir#post270707
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#24 Feb 16 2004 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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yes and that costs 600k on my server ( 3 million for the + 1 version) compared to 10k for the archer knife.....

hmm 1 more agi and 1 more ranged accuracy for 590k more? what kinda idiot do you think i am mr salesman :P
#25 Feb 16 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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I think most people will be sticking to Archer's Knives for quite a while before any are buying Hawkers or Hawkers +1. But if I could afford it, I'd get them too.
#26 Feb 22 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Hawkers knife is Wind + Archer's Knife + Dragon Blood + Beastmen Blood + demon blood..i think.
lvl 80 or so alchemy to do
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