i haven't exactly remained current with new gear and xhit on drk.
outside of abyssea, and not including food, what are our best current builds for 513, 502, and caladbolg's weird ass 430 delay? assume /sam and no cor regain bullsh*t roll (or only cor is my wife, who is also our mnk, so if i'm not on nin or pld i.e. i'm on drk, she'll be on mnk, and not on cor, because we're our only tanks with active brain cells), and not a multihitter. about ready to finish redemption (or at least burn the tahrongi leg of it down) and start on GS soon. carabosse is so easy guys, there's seriously no excuse not to have this done.
right now i can't see anything that would let me solid 5-hit one of the quicker scythes without hoard ring + tac mantle (before food, i'd rather stay with curry for what i don't need pizza for and i'm not feeding mobs arrabiata with the whm's i usually run with).
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Caladbolg is 'f*ck it, just 7-hit'.
Hoard/Tac is your only option currently. There's a +3 STP ammo piece coming but I didn't see if DRK was on it. That, Aurum Cuirass, and Zelus Tiara is probably a good starting point if you wanna shed Tactical Mantle on Redemption and not be WSing in a sh*t set, but I don't think it's enough for Caladbolg.
Hence my policy: If it ain't worth 5/6-hitting, it ain't worth swinging.*
*And by this I mean you'd be better off putting all that effort towards Apocalypse or a better Empyrean.
Edited, Sep 3rd 2011 3:03am by Raelix
Hoard/Tac is your only option currently. There's a +3 STP ammo piece coming but I didn't see if DRK was on it. That, Aurum Cuirass, and Zelus Tiara is probably a good starting point if you wanna shed Tactical Mantle on Redemption and not be WSing in a sh*t set, but I don't think it's enough for Caladbolg.
Hence my policy: If it ain't worth 5/6-hitting, it ain't worth swinging.*
*And by this I mean you'd be better off putting all that effort towards Apocalypse or a better Empyrean.
Edited, Sep 3rd 2011 3:03am by Raelix
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Houyi's Gorget and Tyrant's Ring are two new STP additions. Tyrant's is a good alternative to Hoard, and Houyi's is rather nice as well.
I haven't looked into specific builds, but I have a 5-hit build with Lava+Kusha rings (don't laugh!) so it should be possible for faster scythes using Rajas and Tyrant's. Here's what I use for my 528 5-hit:
+4 Rose Strap
+3 Houyi's Gorget
+2 White Tathlum
+5 Armada Hauberk
+1 Brutal Earring
+5 Goading Belt
+5 Ace's Leggings
That's STP+25, which is actually 1 point over what's needed. For 513 scythe, you need what, STP+28? All you need to add is Rajas and you're there; in fact you could even drop the White Tathlum for Fire/Anger Bomblet.
Not sure what's needed for 501/502 scythes, but you can get up to STP+35 without Tactical using the above equipment plus Rajas/Tyrant's and an Armada Hauberk with STP+6 on it.
I haven't looked into specific builds, but I have a 5-hit build with Lava+Kusha rings (don't laugh!) so it should be possible for faster scythes using Rajas and Tyrant's. Here's what I use for my 528 5-hit:
+4 Rose Strap
+3 Houyi's Gorget
+2 White Tathlum
+5 Armada Hauberk
+1 Brutal Earring
+5 Goading Belt
+5 Ace's Leggings
That's STP+25, which is actually 1 point over what's needed. For 513 scythe, you need what, STP+28? All you need to add is Rajas and you're there; in fact you could even drop the White Tathlum for Fire/Anger Bomblet.
Not sure what's needed for 501/502 scythes, but you can get up to STP+35 without Tactical using the above equipment plus Rajas/Tyrant's and an Armada Hauberk with STP+6 on it.
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Don't forget Hagneia stone (the +3 stp ammo piece I mentioned).
Can 5-hit down to a 501 delay, but Quietus being single-hit complicates it. Only with Hagneia and an Attils's Earring or the +2 STP neck or something along those lines can you ditch Tactical Mantle and still WS in decent gear. You want to be a little over the mark so you can drop to +30 or so on WS (+15 before /SAM, so Rose/Rajas/Something). Else you start looking to lose +6 STP Adaberk for Aurum Cuirass's +9 instead (which is probably a bigger tradeoff than Tactical Mantle at this point!)
Make sure you don't fail to mention /SAM for those, and include the +15 in your STP figure... +25 is nowhere near enough to 5-hit anything but +40 is proper.
Edited, Nov 10th 2011 10:00pm by Raelix
Can 5-hit down to a 501 delay, but Quietus being single-hit complicates it. Only with Hagneia and an Attils's Earring or the +2 STP neck or something along those lines can you ditch Tactical Mantle and still WS in decent gear. You want to be a little over the mark so you can drop to +30 or so on WS (+15 before /SAM, so Rose/Rajas/Something). Else you start looking to lose +6 STP Adaberk for Aurum Cuirass's +9 instead (which is probably a bigger tradeoff than Tactical Mantle at this point!)
Make sure you don't fail to mention /SAM for those, and include the +15 in your STP figure... +25 is nowhere near enough to 5-hit anything but +40 is proper.
Edited, Nov 10th 2011 10:00pm by Raelix
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Stp build for 480 delay Fulgurante /sam and /war?
Drk, Bst, Nin, War, Drg, Sam, Mnk, Dnc, Smn, Rng, Thf, Blu, Cor 99
Rune 85, Blm 30, Pup/Pld 16, Geo 11
Kannagi(85)
R.I.P. Fulgurante(OAT 99) ==> Bereaver rank 2
Herja's Fork 5-hit
Ukonvasara 85! 0/75 Claws
Almace in progress 14/50 Helms 49/50 Skins 2/75 Horns
Apocalypse Stage 2! 160/1600 bronze
Armageddon in progress VNM to do, 16/75 Hearts
Rune 85, Blm 30, Pup/Pld 16, Geo 11
Kannagi(85)
R.I.P. Fulgurante(OAT 99) ==> Bereaver rank 2
Herja's Fork 5-hit
Ukonvasara 85! 0/75 Claws
Almace in progress 14/50 Helms 49/50 Skins 2/75 Horns
Apocalypse Stage 2! 160/1600 bronze
Armageddon in progress VNM to do, 16/75 Hearts
Necro Warning: This post occurred more than thirty days after the prior, and may be a necropost.
13.0/hit, +27 for true 6-hit.
But we can do neater things than that...
Keep +20 STP on for Reso and you get 20.4 return even with one missed secondary. 19.9 gives you a 5-hit then at +54 STP.
Keep +30 on for Reso, easy with /SAM, Rose, Rajas, Brutal, and whatever +5 piece hurts you least (neoNyzul legs are best), and you get 22.1 return with one missed secondary. 19.5 per for 5-hit at exactly +50 STP
/SAM +15
Rose +4
Rajas +5
Brutal +1
Hagneia +3
Houyi's +3
Phorcy's Dirs +6
Ace's +5
Goading +5
Hoard/Tyrants/Adaberk +4
= +51 for the WS-in-30 option, or Adaberk+Hoard/Tyrant for +55 for the WS-in-20 option.
I might be missing some other new piece or two that opens up WS-in-20 without Adaberk, but Phorcy's legs are worth grinding NeoNyzul until you get them.
Edit: Derp, 4+1 = 5, was thinking four hits was four secondaries, so the above is with no misses.
+53 in TP set for miss tolerance with +30 in WS set
+56 in TP set for miss tolerance with +20 in WS set.
With a 22.6% 'break' rate, you want that miss tolerance.
5-hit Fulgurante is still well within viable.
Edited, Apr 19th 2012 11:12am by Raelix
But we can do neater things than that...
Keep +20 STP on for Reso and you get 20.4 return
Keep +30 on for Reso, easy with /SAM, Rose, Rajas, Brutal, and whatever +5 piece hurts you least (neoNyzul legs are best), and you get 22.1 return
/SAM +15
Rose +4
Rajas +5
Brutal +1
Hagneia +3
Houyi's +3
Phorcy's Dirs +6
Ace's +5
Goading +5
Hoard/Tyrants/Adaberk +4
= +51 for the WS-in-30 option, or Adaberk+Hoard/Tyrant for +55 for the WS-in-20 option.
I might be missing some other new piece or two that opens up WS-in-20 without Adaberk, but Phorcy's legs are worth grinding NeoNyzul until you get them.
Edit: Derp, 4+1 = 5, was thinking four hits was four secondaries, so the above is with no misses.
+53 in TP set for miss tolerance with +30 in WS set
+56 in TP set for miss tolerance with +20 in WS set.
With a 22.6% 'break' rate, you want that miss tolerance.
5-hit Fulgurante is still well within viable.
Edited, Apr 19th 2012 11:12am by Raelix
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Thanks for the info! Time to grind for an Armada hauberk xd Looks like 6-hit /war and possible 5-hit /sam B-)
Drk, Bst, Nin, War, Drg, Sam, Mnk, Dnc, Smn, Rng, Thf, Blu, Cor 99
Rune 85, Blm 30, Pup/Pld 16, Geo 11
Kannagi(85)
R.I.P. Fulgurante(OAT 99) ==> Bereaver rank 2
Herja's Fork 5-hit
Ukonvasara 85! 0/75 Claws
Almace in progress 14/50 Helms 49/50 Skins 2/75 Horns
Apocalypse Stage 2! 160/1600 bronze
Armageddon in progress VNM to do, 16/75 Hearts
Rune 85, Blm 30, Pup/Pld 16, Geo 11
Kannagi(85)
R.I.P. Fulgurante(OAT 99) ==> Bereaver rank 2
Herja's Fork 5-hit
Ukonvasara 85! 0/75 Claws
Almace in progress 14/50 Helms 49/50 Skins 2/75 Horns
Apocalypse Stage 2! 160/1600 bronze
Armageddon in progress VNM to do, 16/75 Hearts
Out of random curiosity (As always) what is the maximum store tp we can have /Sam and gear, disregarding any practicality what so ever?
What would the number be?
Add extra's onto it (atma, food, etc), could we even come close to 4 hit on lets say... a 480 weapon?
What would the number be?
Add extra's onto it (atma, food, etc), could we even come close to 4 hit on lets say... a 480 weapon?
68 is the most STP I could come up with from equipment alone, and that's with STP on literally every single slot except weapon.
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/257795
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/257795
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74 with Carbonara then. You could 4-hit a 528 delay iirc. 25.0/hit
Still have to WS in +50 though.
Edited, Apr 27th 2012 5:46pm by Raelix
Still have to WS in +50 though.
Edited, Apr 27th 2012 5:46pm by Raelix
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