confusion on Sea GorgetsFollow

Could you rephrase the question in the form of something coherent?



Equip the appropriate gorget, weapon skill. No need for a skill chain. If that is what you're asking about. Also, yes, the sea gorgets are better than the sea torques.

Gorgets are better than torques for 99% of scenarios/WSs. The +.1 fTP on the gorget obliterates STR+5 on the justice torque for SAM WSs. Note: Hagun WSing at 100 TP on the big 3 has the same effect as fTP+.3125.

I can further elaborate why the gorget will win hands down, but for starters, the gorget will be raising damage by ~5.3% on y/g/k with hagun at 100 tp, and by ~6.4% with a normal weapon at 100 TP (or hagun with sekkanoki). STR+5 won't come close to that.

It's less potent on multi-hits but still it's the last WS piece you'll ever need in the neck slot for the compatable WSs once you get it.

I usually use a /wait 2 to compensate for macro lag. The difference in damage will probably only be noticeable on a parse. Higher average than what it would be w/o the gorget.

Sea Gorgets only affect the first hit of a WS, so one hit WS benefit MORE from them than multi-hit ones do.

As Brett said, use the sea gorget for most WS.

orly

Also, that macro wouldn't work because you need quotes around items/spells/JAs that have more than one word in the name.



Edited, Jun 4th 2009 3:39pm by bsphil

Right. Was a little awkwardly worded.

I'm sorry, I just don't want to learn a whole programming language in order to play a video game, ok?

I think you've misunderstood. I have a WS set, as indicated in my signature. The macro I am talking about is the actual WS macro, which has included further equipment changes due to the nature of the sea gorgets.

/sigh, ok...

alt1 utsu
alt2 provoke
alt3 <t> sighted!
alt4 Aggressor
alt5 Berserk + Retaliation
alt6 WS swap
alt7 Warcry + Warrior's Charge
alt8 Raging Rush
alt9 TP swap
alt0 King's Justice

As you can see that's all the alt macros I have. I CANNOT use CTRL macros, I just can't. Don't ask me why, it's some weird OCD sh*t I have, but I just can't put important stuff on ctrl macros. Soo... yea, outta room. There's my dilemma.

Maybe it's about time I got spellcast. After all, it's the reason I got windower in the 1st place lol..


EDIT: OOH, gotcha Pahn, I'm gonna do it that way now. Thanks.

Edited, Jun 4th 2009 10:34pm by mazmaz

same here. i argued tooth and nail for it, and even provided parses using dmg equations to extrapolate WS ACC, but no one took me seriously. then nagamaki posted a test with like 10 robber crabs and suddenly it was common knowledge that gorgets affect all hits(: (lolalla). ironically, JP tests had proven it affected all hits years ago.

anyway though, s/he (the quoted poster) wasn't wrong, they just worded it badly. s/he meant that gorgets only affect the damage of the first hit, as opposed to latter hits. s/he was talking about the fTP bonus, which indeed only affects the first hit. of course, the ACC bonus does affect all hits, as you know.

It would make the most sense that in a series of actions in a macro, one would not execute until the previous one was executed. The one exception to this that I have run into while using rdm (2 macros in a row with 6 swap lines) is if you are in a particularly laggy situation and you hit your next macro before all of the lines in the first macro execute. At this time the second macro will execute and the first one will stop where it was. In your case, as long as you wait for the second "equipment changed" message, everything should work as intended, as the WS will not execute until you have swapped your gorget, and after the WS executes, all of the calculations have already been completed; all that is left is the animation. That's my best assumption anyway.


/musing:

This is one of the main reasons I stopped macroing in loquacious earring for utsu on war. I was never patient enough to wait for the Utsu cast to execute. If you don't wait for the cast to finish you don't get the recast bonus anyway, which is the main reason I wanted it macro'd.... Anyway, since I am impatient, I always hit another macro before the end (ws or something) and my brutal earring never got swapped back in because it was at the end of a /wait in my utsu macro. So I gave up on that sh*t.

Yes I know I could make another TP macro and put an earring in there or not use PS2 but i'm not so gfy. -_-

/musing



Edited, Jun 8th 2009 12:25pm by LordMnementh