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#1 May 02 2009 at 7:48 PM Rating: Good
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I'm looking for advice on pieces of equipment to wear that I can obtain from AH to gear my 75 war as best as possible for TP and WS. I ask this because I barely do end game stuff, I'm starting on Nyzul and Einherjar (sp?) but still haven't had the chance to grab equipment from there.

So if you have any suggestion on what should I buy for TP/WS(including weapons) to get the best out of my war please post them.

Thanks.

PS: Yes I know there's and equipment guide at the top of this section, but I still would like to see some of your suggestions.
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#2 May 02 2009 at 8:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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TP:
Berserker's or Fourth Toporok
Pole Grip
Fire Bomblet
Wally Turban (easily obtainable)
PCC
Assault/Fowling
Hauberk
Dusk mitts
Rajas/snipers/snipers
Amemit +1
Swifty (if you have it)
Royal knight breeches (just happens to be what I wear until I get a haidate)
Dusk Ledelsens

WS swaps:

head --> Ohat (if you have)
hands --> Good question, I use Heca mitts but they aren't AH
waist --> Warwolf Belt
feet --> Thick Ledelsen's +1
ring --> Flame Ring

This is 95% AH gear albeit not cheap stuff. Not sure what your budget is like.
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#3 May 03 2009 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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DodiOnMidgard wrote:
TP:
Berserker's or Fourth Toporok
Pole Grip
Fire Bomblet
Wally Turban
PCC
Assault/Fowling
Hauberkgeon
Dusk mitts
Rajas/snipers/snipers woodsman (loleva)
Amemet +1
Swifty (if you have it)life belt
Royal knight breeches (just happens to be what I wear until I get a haidate)
Dusk Ledelsens

WS swaps:

head --> Ohat (if you have)
hands --> Good question, I use Heca mitts but they aren't AH Tarasque mitts +1
waist --> Warwolf Belt
feet --> Thick Ledelsen's +1
ring --> Flame Ring (depends on WS)

This is 95% AH gear albeit not cheap stuff. Not sure what your budget is like.


just took your post because im too lazy to type it all myself :)
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#4 May 03 2009 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Puckayla wrote:
DodiOnMidgard wrote:
TP:
Berserker's or Fourth Toporok
Pole Grip
Fire Bomblet
Wally Turban
PCC or Chiv chain
Assault/Fowling
Hauberkgeon
Dusk mitts
Rajas/snipers/snipers woodsman (loleva) -> Ecphoria Ring
Amemet +1
Swifty (if you have it) life belt
Royal knight breeches (just happens to be what I wear until I get a haidate)
Dusk Ledelsens

WS swaps:

head --> Ohat (if you have)
hands --> Good question, I use Heca mitts but they aren't AH Tarasque mitts +1
waist --> Warwolf Belt
feet --> Thick Ledelsen's +1
ring --> Flame Ring (depends on WS)

This is 95% AH gear albeit not cheap stuff. Not sure what your budget is like.


just took your post because im too lazy to type it all myself :)


Fixed, because its not hard to get 6hit for /sam cheap with a 504 delay greataxe when rajas is on your finger.



Edited, May 3rd 2009 5:18am by Demonviper
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#5 May 03 2009 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
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So when you say you want AH gear because you barely do end game stuff, are we talking about just gear that could be bought on AH? Are you a newer player with limited gil on top of having no end game LS? Just excluding sea/sky?

perdu voulge - you don't need end game for this, just shout for rank ups and merit (you need merits if you don't have the rare/ex gear)
berserker's axe would be next best, not sure why someone thinks 88/474 10atk would be better than 95/504, but fourth is okay if gil is limited

bomblet if you have the gil, bombcore if you don't

turban should definitely be gotten, it's "AH" in the sense you can just buy the coins
optical hat is also worth trying to get, which you just need to find a group going and get the cluster

PCC if you have the gil, chiv chain if you don't

What are the min reqs for being able to get Brutal? Think you just need to do one limbus run, but after that you can just buy coins
Assault earring is your best buyable one, fowling or merman after that

Haub(+1) and if you happen to get askar body from nyzul only Possibly worthwhile if you have enough STP to drop a hit

Dusk gloves for tp, alky bracelets are best for KJ/SC iirc, tara +1 for RR

Rajas/Ulth are a nice pair, you can work for Iota with Einherjar pretty quickly
Snipers/woods for tp otherwise, use whichever you have. Flame ring can be a good WS ring depending on what your using and on what (acc can be more important). If gil isn't a factor snipers+1/tors

Forager's or Cuch's depending on your acc and WS

Swift can be gotten relatively easily without an end game linkshell. Drop rate is debatable. Life belt is your next best tp option
WS in potent, possibly warwolf, though again with AH gear, acc more of an issue

Exocist's hose are okay 3str/acc, I would use them over thick's 2/5. RK breeches are pretty nice as well with 2dex/str 1.5acc/4.5atk, also worth using over thick. Askar are awesome if you can get them from nyzul with 5atk/acc 4dex

Dusk/Unicorn for tp, thick shoes (+1) for ws, then AF
Aurum are from ZNM, so you can try to find a ZNM LS or just shout to get, those are your best tp and also a solid ws booties. Amir boots are also relatively easy to get and 6acc/5atk is a good tp and ws piece given limited options

So it really depends on what your constraints are. There is a lot of gear that isn't buyable, but doesn't require end game linkshells to get (swift belt, perdu voulge, aurum boots, optical hat). Just because you don't have an end game LS, doesn't mean you'll be stuck with only AH gear.

ZNMs and assaults are two places to get some of the best warrior gear around!

Edited, May 3rd 2009 4:27am by Requim
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#6 May 03 2009 at 5:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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I forgot to mention that if you have a Rajas you also have access to a Brutal Earring (also not exactly cheap) which can be used to replace Fowling.

To Requiem: I listed Fourth Toporok because it does better DOT for people that can't support a 6 hit build with gear i.e. if you don't have a Rajas. I will look for the thread and link it if I can find it but its information tha came from our resident math guys. In summary, in general:

Perdu > Byakko's > Fourth Toporok > Berserker's
unless 6 hit, then Berserkers > Fourth)

Edit: Here's the link entitled Berserker's Axe vs. Fourth Toporok
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=4;mid=123013131275596763;num=76;page=1

Edited, May 3rd 2009 9:17am by DodiOnMidgard
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75 RNG: 6/8 Marksmanship
75 BST
37+ NIN SAM THF DNC WHM BLM

Current goals:
Assault rank up --> Perdu Voulge: Corporal 0/25
Nyzul --> 100 --> King's Justice: Floor 25

Bastok: 9-1
ZM, CoP, Apoc Nigh, ACP, MKT: Complete
ToAU: 44
WotG: ??
#7 May 03 2009 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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since you probably dont have pcc/pca, you'd be using chiv chain. so dont use ecphoria ring and get sniper/woods/blood instead.
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#8 May 03 2009 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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I noticed you guys marked my Flame Ring swap as ws dependant. What rings do you guys use for Raging Rush and/or Steel Cyclone.

At this point I haven't joined an end-game shell yet and all I've been doing is Raging Rush --> Greater Colibri repeatedly. I haven't parsed or run the math but (prepare yourself for the dirty words) by eyeballing on birdies I've been totally comfortable with my acc on RR while full timing meat with 2/8 Gaxe merits. I know if I were gonna RR Byakko I'd keep more acc. I'm still new to 75 WAR so I'm open for suggestions.
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75 WAR: 4/4 crits | 5/5 DA/Berserk/Warrior's Charge | 8/8 Gaxe | 2/5 Toma
75 RNG: 6/8 Marksmanship
75 BST
37+ NIN SAM THF DNC WHM BLM

Current goals:
Assault rank up --> Perdu Voulge: Corporal 0/25
Nyzul --> 100 --> King's Justice: Floor 25

Bastok: 9-1
ZM, CoP, Apoc Nigh, ACP, MKT: Complete
ToAU: 44
WotG: ??
#9 May 03 2009 at 3:26 PM Rating: Excellent
DodiOnMidgard wrote:
I noticed you guys marked my Flame Ring swap as ws dependant. What rings do you guys use for Raging Rush and/or Steel Cyclone.

At this point I haven't joined an end-game shell yet and all I've been doing is Raging Rush --> Greater Colibri repeatedly. I haven't parsed or run the math but (prepare yourself for the dirty words) by eyeballing on birdies I've been totally comfortable with my acc on RR while full timing meat with 2/8 Gaxe merits. I know if I were gonna RR Byakko I'd keep more acc. I'm still new to 75 WAR so I'm open for suggestions.
I wear acc rings for raging rush, but I dont have Rajas yet. It's really up to you. If you feel you can hold up acc as good without a woodsman's ring then go for it. Really though, It's unlikely you have capped acc on weaponskill without one.
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#11 May 03 2009 at 6:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the input. I've already read and re-read that gear guide more than you know, its really a fantastic compilation.

Mojo I have no doubt that you are correct regarding the acc cap on the birdies (just based on what I've read from other threads) I was just hoping someone would tell me I was probably "close enough" that the difference would be negligible. Seeing as how I plan to go 8/8 in Gaxe maybe I can get "close enough." I really need to take some time and work with the math so I can answer my own questions regarding this stuff. In the meantime rate-ups for all your patient responses (not limited to Mojo of course).

The truth of the matter is I've been wearing snipers rings for so long that I was excited to have the opportunity to add Flame Ring as a ws swap because to be honest I think it looks F@#$^&g sweet. So in short I can't say for sure that I will switch to an acc ring in that 2nd ring slot (I full-time Rajas) until I have the opportunity to use SC more often (read: at all) because for some retarded reason I just love my Flame Ring. Perhaps its the placebo effect but I think wearing a Flame Ring actually increases the diameter of the wearer's ********** . . Just a thought.

P.S. Although previously mentioned, it merits restating: LolGaxe your daughter is beautiful! I hope she turns out to be a sound sleeper for you ;)

Edited, May 3rd 2009 10:43pm by DodiOnMidgard
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75 WAR: 4/4 crits | 5/5 DA/Berserk/Warrior's Charge | 8/8 Gaxe | 2/5 Toma
75 RNG: 6/8 Marksmanship
75 BST
37+ NIN SAM THF DNC WHM BLM

Current goals:
Assault rank up --> Perdu Voulge: Corporal 0/25
Nyzul --> 100 --> King's Justice: Floor 25

Bastok: 9-1
ZM, CoP, Apoc Nigh, ACP, MKT: Complete
ToAU: 44
WotG: ??
#12 May 04 2009 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
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What are the min reqs for being able to get Brutal? Think you just need to do one limbus run, but after that you can just buy coins


This isn't true. I've never done a Limbus run, I just bought the ABC's, and I was able to trade for my Brutal Earring
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Nice, looks like an HQ version of lolgaxe +1......so its a +2 then?
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#14 May 04 2009 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
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You really need to try your to best to get some Byakko Shorts. They are the biggest upgrade in 1 slot that you can get. Despot and Ullikummi are easily killed with +3 and I'd hope you could get like 8-12 people to fight Byakko. You could go for Barbarossa's Zerehs but they aren't as much haste and the 15 dex from Byakko's Haidate is a huge boost of acc (especially for GAX.)

Just as a note Einherjar will make a War on your level cry. It's not meant as a knock it's just that there are ridiculously tough monsters in it. You need top notch gear and merits to do well in it.
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#15 May 04 2009 at 4:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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to be honest I think it looks F@#$^&g sweet.


This is my reasoning behind a lot of what I do. If you are happy with your flame ring results, go for it, your acc on birds should be decent and will only get better as you cap out merits. You're going to be getting what, ~+12 acc from the rest of your merits?
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DodiOnMidgard wrote:
TP:
Berserker's or Fourth Toporok
Pole Grip
Fire Bomblet
Wally Turban (easily obtainable)
PCC
Assault/Fowling
Hauberk
Dusk mitts
Rajas/snipers/snipers
Amemit +1
Swifty (if you have it)
Royal knight breeches (just happens to be what I wear until I get a haidate)
Dusk Ledelsens



This. I would just put Lifebelt on waist if you dont have swift and can use a Haubargeon instead of a Hauberk.

For WS, make sure you keep at least the same ACC as your TP set, and put STR anywhere you can. I am very skeptical about changing your rings for STR rings and your belt for Warwolf if you are not swapping in acc to compensate.
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For some reason everyone forgot to mention Barone Shorts. 6atk and 2 str is pretty good and it's what I run till I can get some kitty pants or askar dirs
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Exorcist Hose > Barone.
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yup, back when I was an AH war, I tp'd in Barone and ws'd in exorcism hose.
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About STR Ring on WS, I'll just say this:

With Hecatomb Gear I calculated that my WS acc was greater than my TP acc even with a str ring. So I use a str ring for WS.

My opinion on Flame Ring:

+1 str upgrades are the absolute last upgrades you should be making, period, end of story. Hauberk +1, Fire Bomblet, PCC, Assault Earring, and just about every other AH upgrade you can make with the exception of Cerberus Mantle +1/Forager Mantle is a better use of your money/value added than a +1 STR ring for WS swap.

That is all. I'll still be using Ruby Ring for a little while.

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Good point Lord Mne. However, in my case, gil isn't really an issue for me now after leveling BST. I am currently looking into getting myself a Hauberk +1 but other than that I have pretty much all the AH gear I could want. My goal for the summer is to get Aurum boots, kitty pants, and a Perdu Voulge, all of which are more of a time constraint than a gil constraint.

I've actually got a ls that is doing Byakko kills for me everytime I get cheap pop items but sadly I am 0/2 so far on pants. The deal is I buy or farm the pop items and they kill for me. I get my choice of 1 drop. I did get myself some heca hands but alas no pants. On that note I have what may be a noobish question. . . if more than one thf is registered in the hate log when a mob is killed does that increase drop rate? i.e. if I had multiple THF on a Byakko kill would it increase drop rate of teh pants?
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75 WAR: 4/4 crits | 5/5 DA/Berserk/Warrior's Charge | 8/8 Gaxe | 2/5 Toma
75 RNG: 6/8 Marksmanship
75 BST
37+ NIN SAM THF DNC WHM BLM

Current goals:
Assault rank up --> Perdu Voulge: Corporal 0/25
Nyzul --> 100 --> King's Justice: Floor 25

Bastok: 9-1
ZM, CoP, Apoc Nigh, ACP, MKT: Complete
ToAU: 44
WotG: ??
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The highest level of TH is what it goes by, it isn't cumulative.

Edit: Oh, and to answer this:
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I hope she turns out to be a sound sleeper for you ;)
She has daddy's sleeping habits. She don't sleep. Ever. Smiley: motz

Edited, May 4th 2009 1:49pm by lolgaxe
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#23 May 04 2009 at 11:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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The highest level of TH is what it goes by, it isn't cumulative.

Edit: Oh, and to answer this:
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I hope she turns out to be a sound sleeper for you ;)
She has daddy's sleeping habits. She don't sleep. Ever. Smiley: motz
She has to sleep some time...
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The highest level of TH is what it goes by, it isn't cumulative.

Edit: Oh, and to answer this:
DodiOnMidgard wrote:
I hope she turns out to be a sound sleeper for you ;)
She has daddy's sleeping habits. She don't sleep. Ever. Smiley: motz
She has to sleep some time...


Lies... ud be amazed how long children can go without sleep.

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#25 May 04 2009 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
I've been babysitting for my cousin a few hours a week. He's the sweetest kid in the world and literally never cries, and sleeps as soon as you want him too. He has a scarf that belonged to his mother, that if you put it on him, he knows it's time to sleep and he just does...
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My son was one of them baby's that never wanted to sleep at night :S
he was sleeping all day long, only waking up for food... then at night he started crying ALL night long.

Took about 3 months to switch that around, forcing him to stay awake more at daytime hoping he'd sleep at night.
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