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#1 Mar 09 2009 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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So - I know DRG AF is not DD and Just ready the post about ppl. bashing AF for warrior. My question is. What's the point of getting it? Seriously?

I know when I got my DRG af (WAAAAAYY back when - im a returing player) I was very disappointed in the DD stats. However, the af head allowed me to solo for several levels.

Aside from looks (sam af and drk af look awesome to me). However, why spend all that time effort, and to a lesser extent, gil to obtain a piece of gear that is frowned upon in parties and gimps your effectivness in a party situation?

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#2 Mar 09 2009 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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The feet will effectively hold you over until 68, where you replace them with Thick. The Gloves go nicely into WS Swap until you get Hecatomb hands. Let's not forget Ballista.

That's what I used them for anyways.
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#3 Mar 09 2009 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Head is good for obvious reasons, the hands are a good WS piece once you HQ them, the legs are an important HB macro piece as well as a very good HQ too, and the feet are pretty much the last thing you ever need to jump in. The body sucks though.
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#4 Mar 09 2009 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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bsphil wrote:
Head is good for obvious reasons
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DEX ftw?

edit: Re: AF Feet > 68. Not anymore! Fourth Sabatons say hello world! Get them at 55. Thick at 68. Dusk at 72 or Ausum Sabatons if you can get your grubby mitts on them.

Edited, Mar 9th 2009 4:10pm by Nilatai
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#5 Mar 09 2009 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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WAR AF all has -some- possible use. Well, except the head, that's pretty much useless unless you're using it for the DEX, and that'd really be pushing it with the cost of a Walkure Mask or whatnot these days.

Hands - Passable WS gear for a time, as they lack the -DEX of Gigas bracelets. In the (incredibly odd) situation that you use a shield (Joy/shield /DNC build mebbe?) they could possibly have some use.

Legs - 3 ACC. Eh. A very slight improvement over, well, basically any ACC (or effective ACC from DEX) option in the leg slot until Exorcist Hose. In the light of decent options lacking ACC, like RK Breeches, they're not exactly a great option, but they're not completely missing the mark either. Personally, I used them in high-ACC set for when Aggressor was down on higher level mobs.

Feet - As was mentioned, can be a viable option until the later 60s simply because there's a lack of great options in the slot. Though, that's not to say there are -no- options >_> Some RSE/RSE2, Fourth Sabatons (2 ACC), and so on are also decent.

Body - Seriously, this is one of the best tanking body pieces in the game. Macro piece probably, and not all WARs may be trying to tank (usually happens anyway), but still...it's a stellar piece, just not for DD =P


IMO, during XP, most of it can be macroed in -somewhere- for a logical reason. At least in the 50s/60s. In the long run, it "could" be nice to have in the event that you want to do a niche build. But, otherwise, getting all of it means you can store it.

However, as none of it (save the body) is really standout for much of anything, there's no crime in just sticking to AH options.
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#6 Mar 09 2009 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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2Acc beats 1% DA, AF feets are obsolete now.
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
2Acc beats 1% DA, AF feets are obsolete now.



Math prz?
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#8 Mar 09 2009 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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Head is good for obvious reasons
Smiley: um

DEX ftw?


He was talking about drg af.
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mazmaz wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
2Acc beats 1% DA, AF feets are obsolete now.
Math prz?
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#10 Mar 09 2009 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Head is good for obvious reasons
Smiley: um

DEX ftw?

edit: Re: AF Feet > 68. Not anymore! Fourth Sabatons say hello world! Get them at 55. Thick at 68. Dusk at 72 or Ausum Sabatons if you can get your grubby mitts on them.


lolCrits. Crits are kind of like a blank slate since noone knows how to quantify them very well, so you can project whatever worth on them. I just wish ppl would stop thinking dex>crit will have much if any effect until endgame when you can stack tons of it.Never mind, I thought I was in the WAR forum for a sec, my bad. :P

Also, I'm sure I'm counteracting something I said earlier, and I'm spreading the disease that is gimping Vanadiel, but I'd give ppl a pass on wearing AF boots instead of a marginal upgrade since they're such a war signature item. :s

Edited, Mar 9th 2009 5:28pm by Eltio
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#11 Mar 09 2009 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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mazmaz wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
2Acc beats 1% DA, AF feets are obsolete now.



Math prz?


.95/.94 > 1.11/1.10

.95/.95 < 1.11/1.10
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#12 Mar 09 2009 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Head is good for obvious reasons
Smiley: um

DEX ftw?

edit: Re: AF Feet > 68. Not anymore! Fourth Sabatons say hello world! Get them at 55. Thick at 68. Dusk at 72 or Ausum Sabatons if you can get your grubby mitts on them.

Edited, Mar 9th 2009 4:10pm by Nilatai
Meant the DRG AF actually. Kinda hard to make sense of the rest of the descriptions if you keep reading.

I never finished getting WAR AF, I think it's a waste of time. If I could go back in time I wouldn't have gotten the feet either.
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#13 Mar 09 2009 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
Nilatai the Intelligent wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Head is good for obvious reasons
Smiley: um

DEX ftw?

edit: Re: AF Feet > 68. Not anymore! Fourth Sabatons say hello world! Get them at 55. Thick at 68. Dusk at 72 or Ausum Sabatons if you can get your grubby mitts on them.

Edited, Mar 9th 2009 4:10pm by Nilatai
Meant the DRG AF actually. Kinda hard to make sense of the rest of the descriptions if you keep reading.

I never finished getting WAR AF, I think it's a waste of time. If I could go back in time I wouldn't have gotten the feet either.
Ah, yeah that makes more sense. Carry on. XD
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#14 Mar 09 2009 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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If 2 acc is better than 1% double attack, then how is Platinum Grip +1 not better than Pole Grip?
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#15 Mar 09 2009 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I completed the WAR AF quests for the Title.
Me like Titles.
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#16 Mar 09 2009 at 10:24 PM Rating: Good
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If 2 acc is better than 1% double attack, then how is Platinum Grip +1 not better than Pole Grip?


The same math eltio just did above.
95/93.5 < 112/110
#17 Mar 10 2009 at 12:34 AM Rating: Good
My favourite title ever is "looks sublime in a subligar"
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#18 Mar 10 2009 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
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I did all the AF quests basically so I could store the armor. Yea, some job's AF have only one piece that could be situationally useful but even if you quest just one piece, they start to add up in inventory space when you start getting more and more job's AF.

WAR is my only job out of 11 AFs fully completed where I never need to take it out of storage at 75.
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#19 Mar 10 2009 at 3:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eltio wrote:
Also, I'm sure I'm counteracting something I said earlier, and I'm spreading the disease that is gimping Vanadiel, but I'd give ppl a pass on wearing AF boots instead of a marginal upgrade since they're such a war signature item. :s
Yeah, I'd honestly never complain if a Warrior showed up in the Red Jesus Bondage Boots.
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#20 Mar 10 2009 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Eltio wrote:
Also, I'm sure I'm counteracting something I said earlier, and I'm spreading the disease that is gimping Vanadiel, but I'd give ppl a pass on wearing AF boots instead of a marginal upgrade since they're such a war signature item. :s
Yeah, I'd honestly never complain if a Warrior showed up in the Red Jesus Bondage Boots.
I will if it's after Thick Sollerets become available. Smiley: sly
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