The difference between MAB and elemental affinity is not germane to the point I’m making here.
Except that it is IS germane, because one of the two major points of your statement (that thunder will do more with Lion than it will with Beyond) is invalid unless you take that difference into account.
It was not my intent to quantify or comment on the amount of increase it will do to your thunder spell.
Ok, fine, then you shouldn't have thrown the numbers out there. I hope we can at least agree on that much. It's too bad, though, because if you had done so correctly, you would have been supporting your main argument.
I’m sorry if this got you wrapped around the axle to the extent that you missed my point.
I missed nothing. I rarely do. I also didn't take a position one way or another on your argument of which atma combination is more practical. I DID take exception to your inclusion of specific numbers and terminology which are substantially incorrect, as well as your apparent disregard for other factors which I consider to be important.
Yes, the “10 MAB” should have read “+10 thunder attack” and “60 MAB” should have read “30 MAB + 30 ice attack”.
Your argument seems to be that I’m not giving due consideration to the difference between +40 thunder attack and +30 MAB.
Actually, my argument was more along the lines of "where the !@#$ did you come up with 10 vs. 60", but because I am not Rog, I attempted to give you a chance to explain yourself. And now, because I am still not Rog, I won't insult you for thinking that Lion gives +40 thunder attack when it actually only gives +30.
So, for thunder, you're giving up 30 of one for 30 of the another. If you don't take the context into account, how can you explain the difference? In fact, under the right circumstances, it is actually possible for the trade from Beyond to Lion to cause your thunder damage to decrease
. That is a pretty narrow set of circumstances, which practically speaking is not likely to be encountered. However, because it is possible, you need to properly qualify your statements.
And if you wanted to be especially helpful to people coming here looking for good information, you could explain that in a typical nuking scenario for a BLM using Indra's +2 (dmg), the damage increase to thunder for Lion v. Beyond is not huge. And for RDM or SCH (because not just BLMs come to the BLM forum for tips on nuking), the increase is even smaller. And then you could back it up with sample calculations or actual data.
Or you could just get pissed off that someone else on these forums actually cares about the accuracy of your posts. Edited, Aug 25th 2011 5:25pm by VxSote