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# Mana Wall and Phalanx QuestionFollow

Jun 27 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, basically, I was wondering how Mana Wall and Phalanx interacted.

Lets say you had, oh, -40% PDT and then Mana Wall. You'd be hit for 200 damage.

40% PDT would reduce this to 120, Mana Wall to 60.

Now, lets say you had Phalanx, for -25 damage. (270~ enhancing skill, in other words).

Would it be:

200 -> 120 (PDT) -> 60 (Manawall) -> 35 (Phalanx)

Or

200 -> 120 (PDT) -> 95 (Phalanx) -> 47 (Mana Wall)

Basically: Does phalanx come before, or after, the 50% mana wall reduction? Does it save mana on a 1:1 ratio or would a 25 damage phalanx only save 12 mp per hit?

Edited, Jun 27th 2011 8:02pm by ItsAMyri
Jun 30 2011 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
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Jun 30 2011 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
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Phalanx is Calculated after -PDT however i am unsure in regards to mana wall (it is a straight 50% reduction and no idea really where it falls).

Dunno why you are really asking this anyway when its a stupidly simple test anyone can do that has BLM/RDM at the right levels. Go find an EP mob see how much it hits you for naked. Get hit 20-30 times so you can get an average. Then use Manawall and see how much MP you lose (over 30 hits should be really close to 50% of your HP damage).

Then Cast Phalanx. Using the basic math you did above you can determine when it is actually applied.

Although my hunch is last as it has always come after damage reduction % and defense.
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