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#1 Jun 27 2011 at 10:10 AM Rating: Default
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will it be ok if i just get like 3 out of 6 i dont have any level 90 jobs i cant afford to get them all.
#2 Jun 27 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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You will want them all for proccing yellow weakness.
#3 Jun 27 2011 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
x1Raziel wrote:
will it be ok if i just get like 3 out of 6 i dont have any level 90 jobs i cant afford to get them all.


Agreed, they are hella expensive; however, not only do you want them for yellow staggers, but you will want them for the complete magic list (so that may be an OCD thing that I have). I suggest not buying them though. Find a couple of friends and make farming parties. They drop in the same places as the tier IV spells, so you can do double duty while you are there.

For example, Blizzard IV and Freeze both drop from Doom Warlocks in Gustav Tunnel. Both the tier IV and the AM spells are yellow procs on Aby NMs for helping seal drop rates and very important when called upon to play blm in a seal farming party!

Best of luck to you!
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#4 Jun 27 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm going to have to say suck it up and buy them.

You don't need them to level, you can go back once you're already 90 and have more viable methods of income.

I don't mean to come off as rude, but I think farming the scrolls themselves is a very, very bad idea. The drop rate is simply abysmal. 1.5% off of mobs that respawn every 16%, less than 10% off of NMs that spawn every few hours...

Couple this with the fact that every other do-it-yourself person is going to be trying the exact same strategy, and statistically, you're going to spend hours and hours on every spell. You'll be lucky to snag one scroll a day working all day. It's just bad business.

I tried to farm flood for a couple hours, without much luck. Then I did a quick AH-scan for an 'expensive' NM drop in abyssea. Brought a friend, bought two pop items for 1k each, came back out with 360k~ worth the loot. Took maybe 30 minutes, all told.

The scroll of flood only costs 300k. See where I'm going with this? You will spend an order of magnitude longer farming scrolls and getting frustrated at the low drop rates as you will just sucking it up and blowing away whatever reserves of gil you've obtained, cashing in your dominion notes, cruor, etc.. or farming gil in abyssea via goldboxes or NMs.

tl;dr: It is much, much easier to get the gil than the scrolls. I'd suggest skipping what you don't need until 90 and then going back to fill in all the gaps, if it's your first job. New 90's are always gimpy for a while.

If you're like many and love the feeling of 'saving money' then by all means farm the scrolls, but realize that your time is worth money, as you could be using your time to -make- money, and you're losing way more time farming the scrolls. Opportunity cost, and all that jazz.

1.5% drop rate means exactly what it says on the tin. Not "1.5% but for me the stars will align". But 1.5% as in "You'll have to kill about 66~ enemies on average to get the scroll. It may drop on the first, or you may not have it after 200 kills. And if you don't, you will be absolutely no closer to getting it than when you started."

Edit: If theres anything you can skip for a while, it's ancient magics. They're terribly slow, terribly inefficient, and all around awful spells except for yellow !! which is not important until you're 90 anyway.

Unless you want to solo pets for EXP, but even then, so long as you have -some- ancient magic you will be fine.

Edited, Jun 27th 2011 7:41pm by ItsAMyri
#5 Jun 27 2011 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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short answer (although above was excellent)

yes, you need them. not for levelling, except for perhaps a few pet camps. but at 90, definitely.
#6 Jun 27 2011 at 10:51 PM Rating: Default
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x1Raziel wrote:
will it be ok if i just get like 3 out of 6 i dont have any level 90 jobs i cant afford to get them all.



Dont worry abou them yet if you are not 90. They are a waste of mp in an exp situation. SO if you tight on gil just wait till you get 90 save what gil you can and buy them then :)
#7 Jun 28 2011 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
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yeah i was going to try and farm them but the drop rates suck.the reason i asked about them now was becuase somebody told me i need them for procs since the tier II ones dont work but anyways i thought of a way to raise the money ill do some quests cook a little and so on thanks everyone for your help.
#8 Jun 28 2011 at 8:33 PM Rating: Default
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How much are those spells are your server?
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