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Effects of Fast Cast/Haste on Accession/Manifestation Follow

#1 Feb 16 2009 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I ran a few tests over the past couple days to see what our recast caps on Accession are. I originally posted my findings on my LJ here and here. Here are the numbers/info:

 
Job Ability             	        Haste % 	Recast % 	Recast Time 	Armor 
N/A                  	                0% 	        7.5% 	        27 sec 	        N/A 
N/A             	                5% 	        7.5% 	        26 sec 	        Walahara Turban 
Light Arts              	        0% 	        17.5% 	        25 sec     	N/A 
Light Arts + Celerity           	0%      	67.5%   	15 sec       	N/A 
Light Arts                      	0%        	22.5% 	        23 sec     	Scholar's Loafers 
Light Arts                      	5%           	17.5%     	23 sec     	Walahara Turban 
Light Arts                         	5%          	22.5%       	22 sec     	Scholar's Loafers + Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Celerity           	0%        	72.5%     	15 sec     	Scholar's Loafers 
Light Arts + Celerity           	5%      	67.5%     	15 sec     	Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Celerity                 	5%       	72.5%      	15 sec     	Walahara Turban + Scholar's Loafers 
Light Arts + Accession          	0%       	17.5%     	55 sec     	N/A 
Light Arts + Accession          	5%      	17.5%       	53 sec     	Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Accession          	0%       	22.5%        	55 sec     	Scholar's Loafers 
Light Arts + Accession          	5%      	22.5%     	53 sec     	Scholar's Loafers + Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Accession + Celerity 	0%       	67.5%    	27 sec     	N/A 
Light Arts + Accession + Celerity 	0%        	72.5%     	27 sec     	Scholar's Loafers 
Light Arts + Accession + Celerity 	5%         	67.5%    	26 sec     	Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Accession + Celerity 	5%        	72.5%    	26 sec     	Scholar's Loafers + Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Accession + Celerity 	30%     	72.5%   	18 sec     	Scholar's Loafers(Celerity Cancels Effect) + Walahara Turban 
Light Arts + Accession          	30%     	22.5%   	37 sec     	Scholar's Loafers + Walahara Turban 


Summary: It seems our cap on recast when using Accession/Manifestation is 50% of the base spell recast. This can be done through Fast Cast Traits (/RDM) and/or gear, as well as Haste spells/gear



Edited, Feb 16th 2009 11:08am by Zagen
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#2 Feb 16 2009 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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I am a bit interested in the whole Celerity + Af1 Feet thing. I was pretty sure that as long as celerity doesn't cap you (Say you have slow, are weakened, or have accession up), the fast cast would take into effect.
Could be because of how Penury works off the base and ignores the Art's Cost reduction: Since Celerity works off the base, "Grimoire" enhances wouldn't apply.

Also: I must comment that Klimaform makes a much better test subject. It works with Manifestation to double the recast, and has the long enough base recast or 3 minutes.

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#3 Feb 16 2009 at 5:21 PM Rating: Good
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I chose Stoneskin because it was easy to repeatedly test due to the lower recast and even my calculations math wise come out to be the same by removing anything less than a whole number (27.25 sec > 27).

It seems that even if Celerity doesn't reach the 50% recast Light Arts and Scholar's Loafers do nothing to get the recast even lower but Fast Cast and Haste do. Since my results show that when using Accession Light Arts and Scholar's Loafer reduction isn't being applied, this leads me to believe that when using Accession/Manifestation Rostrum Pumps would be better than Scholar's Loafers.

I don't do Diorama often but if I get a chance I'll try to see how Slow, Elegy and possibly Slow II affect the results.
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#4 Feb 17 2009 at 12:09 AM Rating: Good
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If you stand by a zone line you can cast your very long recast spell, note the recast, and zone. It'll reset the recasts for all your spells, though it does wipe arts too so you only save a little time.
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