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#1 Feb 05 2009 at 1:27 AM Rating: Good
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ok now that sch merits have been out for a while, what is the pattern most have put into it for best affectiveness.. just hit 75 and looking at them, its hard to chose how best to place them outside of stormsurge to max and maybe capping max sublimination, but even then.. i dont know how often i actually let or see sublimination go to full charge outside of first stepping outside of my mh as it is.
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#2 Feb 05 2009 at 3:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sublimation usage depends on how you like to play.
For me, it is the very first thing I use when stepping out of my Mog House and I use it full charge 95% of the time.
I went 5/5 Sublimation and I'll eventually cap Helix spells too (at 2/5 atm). I don't see 10 seconds off Light/Dark Art being that useful, I don't find myself switching that often. Didn't even take Modus Veritas into account because I rarely use it.
For Category 2, Stormsurge 5/5 and 1 in each other ability is my current plan. I still didn't cap this part either, I don't have that much time to merit these days >.< I'm still debating whether I should go 5/5 Stormsurge, 1 Tranquility, 1 Focalization and 3 Enlightment or just 5/5 + 1(x5).
Enlightment sounded great to me at first, but the truth is I only use it for Aspir while in Light Arts >.>
#3 Feb 05 2009 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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5/5 Helix and 5/5 Stormsurge are the "Must have" ones out there.

5/5 Enlightment is my choice for the secnod Cat2 group. It is a real stratagem-saver for timed stuff like Nyzul island, Einherjar, Limbus, etc. It comes in handy mostly when I'm at Dark Arts and need like, an Erase.
In the case that the enemy does say, paralyga, I can save 1 charge going Light arts -> Accession -> Enlightment -> Paralyna.
Also good when you only need to cast RR from Add:White; Pop lights, Enlightment, and RR2 (Or use the saved stratagem on Penury).

I don't see Either of the 2-Charge stratagems as really worth anything past 2-hour spam. The only one that is slightly interesting is Focalization. But the thing is that Spending 1 Stratagem on Alacrity + Klimaform for a huge boost 2/3 of the time on all spells under that period is just so much better than 2 stratagems for a single spell.
And really, I've yet to meet something that can't be nuked/enfeebled without Klimaform (Sans ToAU HNM's and respective inmunities).



As for Cat1 second choice merits is really up to personal preference.

Full MV merits is like making your Helixes do 1.5 the damage it should. This essentially gives us the equivalent of an AMII spell once every 10 minutes.
Full Sublimation on the other hand, is "Just nice" to have around on all situations.

Personally, I'm leaning towards full Sublimation now that MV merits have been proven to only reduece the penalty by 25% (50% out of 50% Penalty, not 50% -50% like we hoped).


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#4 Feb 05 2009 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I find SCH-specific merits to be very lackluster in general. 5/5 stormsurge is definitely the best category to merit, but after that everything else seems so marginally useful that I would rather spend my merits elsewhere. 5/5 helix would be worthwhile if you solo those NMs that don't die fast enough to simply be nuked down and have low enough int for you to do respectable damage. It would speed up the process a bit.
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#5 Feb 05 2009 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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kronohofsylph wrote:
5/5 helix would be worthwhile if you solo those NMs that don't die fast enough to simply be nuked down and have low enough int for you to do respectable damage. It would speed up the process a bit.


I personally don't understand why so many people degrade the usefulness of helices. If you're soloing anything at all, a helix spell is going to be your most efficient means of damage. If you're fighting anything that lasts @ least 90 seconds and doesn't have extremely high INT, it's going to be your most efficient means of damage. If you need to ensure a DoT is on something such as the ZNM colibri, it lasts for up to 90 seconds, which can make or break that fight when everyone gets charmed. 5/5 helix merits only make the helices better. If you're fighting something that lasts @ least twice as long as a normal helix duration, 5/5 MV merits can turn that into a metric ton of damage.
#6 Feb 05 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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5/5 helix would be worthwhile if you solo those NMs that don't die fast enough to simply be nuked down and have low enough int for you to do respectable damage. It would speed up the process a bit.


Helixes are strongest, most efficient Nuke. Helix Merits affect Both M.Accu and Potency across all elements. What is not to love?.

When killing JoF with a full alliance, I can get JoF down to 70%HP from helixes alone while they kill the balls. Then I can pretty much nuke it non-stop alternating Tiver IV-Helix while the BLM's kite it around because they pulled hate.

I outdamage BLM's with them alone in plenty of events. Byakko, Chlevnik, JoF, Ix'Aerns. Mostly, because it allows me to do two full nukes for the hate of 1.2

Edited, Feb 5th 2009 1:32pm by Drakonite
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#7 Feb 06 2009 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
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My Choice of Sch Merit
Tier 1:
5/5 Helix acc and att bonus
5/5 Sublimation (Elvaan needs MP badly)

Tier 2:
4/5 Focalization (more Macc is always good tho it cost 2charges making it situational)
1/5 Enlightenment (quite handy especially you are a nuker-scholar)
5/5 Stormsurge (7 extra INT + Ice weather bonus, needless to explain...)
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#8 Feb 06 2009 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Drakonite wrote:
MV merits have been proven to only reduce the penalty by 25% (50% out of 50% Penalty, not 50% -50% like we hoped).


Aw, no one-tic kills with 18 scholars :( ?

A shame, though it WOULD have been rather broken...
#9 Feb 06 2009 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Wildiecardie wrote:
My Choice of Sch Merit
Tier 1:
5/5 Helix acc and att bonus
5/5 Sublimation (Elvaan needs MP badly)

Tier 2:
4/5 Focalization (more Macc is always good tho it cost 2charges making it situational)
1/5 Enlightenment (quite handy especially you are a nuker-scholar)
5/5 Stormsurge (7 extra INT + Ice weather bonus, needless to explain...)


This is exactly what I'm doing. 5/5 Helix and Stormsurge are the obvious choices for most, and the rest are up to your personal playstyle. I don't personally have a need for a shorter recast on Light/Dark arts, and when I use Modus Veritas it's usually because I got a half-resisted helix and I want it to not suck so much, so I don't really care to merit it. Also, I tend to sit on Sublimation until its full (plus I'm taru and so my sub isn't that exciting without merits), so 5/5 Sublimation is what I picked.

For tier 2 merits; I originally thought 5/5 Enlightenment would be pretty cool, but then I realized it's not a JA I use too terribly often. Having access to it once every 10 minutes is useful enough for my usual situations, and considering I don't even use it half the time I don't think using all my merits decreasing the timer to 5 minutes is useful to me. So... I've decided to go 4/5 Focalization on the side, even though I'm not sure how potent or useful it'll be, but if it's strong enough to work as a mini-elemental seal (even though it costs 2 charges), it might be worth it. I haven't seen anyone really post on its effectiveness, so I figure I'll just merit it to see for myself since nothing else sounds too exciting.
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#10 Feb 06 2009 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
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At the moment im working towards:

Helix Atk/Acc: 5/5
Modus Veritas Duration: 5/5

Stormsurge: 5/5

The last 5 merits in Cat 2 are up for grabs. Focalisation might be useful in some instances, but as with all the merit strategems it's extremely costly. Enlightenment was my original first choice, until it was discovered not to boost the casting costs/times/recasts like we suspected. One of the few abilities rather poorly worded by SE.

It means that either way I'd be using up a strategem to switch arts, if only to get back to my original addenda.
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#11 Feb 07 2009 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm only 65 sofar (and rising) but I was thinking about:

5/5 grimoire recast
5/5 helix

5/5 stormsurge
and then for my last 5, probably..
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Focalization.

You guys have maybe peaked my interest in MV duration merits instead of grimoire. I'm only 65 though so I have 0 experience playing around with it, but it sounds powerful.
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#12 Feb 07 2009 at 8:57 AM Rating: Default
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Byxfluzba wrote:
I'm only 65 sofar (and rising) but I was thinking about:

5/5 grimoire recast
5/5 helix

5/5 stormsurge
and then for my last 5, probably..
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Focalization.

You guys have maybe peaked my interest in MV duration merits instead of grimoire. I'm only 65 though so I have 0 experience playing around with it, but it sounds powerful.


grimoire merits are utter garbage IMO. Light arts and Dark arts recasts are never an issue... Sublimation merits have a minimal benefit. It merely extends the time sublimation will charge by 19 ticks. While it does bring sublimation a little closer to refresh in efficiency, it's still nothing that will make/break a situation.

MV merits *especially when coupled with helix merits* increase helix damage considerably. *not going to argue about helix usage. it's there, nuff said*
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