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Striking flourish Big Sister........Ternary Flourish Follow

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#1 Aug 19 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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So it appears SE has given Dancer another JA to force a fold attack...
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The forthcoming version update will feature the following job-related adjustments and refinements:

New Job Abilities

Dancer
Ternary Flourish (Lv. 93)
Allows you to deliver a threefold attack. Requires at least three finishing moves.


Any thoughts on this?
While Striking Flourish was only twofold from what I've read it seems rather worthless.... How do you think Ternary Flourish will par?

What situation do you think it would be used?

Edited, Aug 19th 2011 11:08am by Darkzeru
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#2 Aug 19 2011 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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If it's just a forced Triple Attack, like how Striking Flourish started out as just a forced Double Attack, then it will be worthless. If they add some kind of cool enhancement to it, then it might be useful.
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#3 Aug 19 2011 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Byrthnoth wrote:
If it's just a forced Triple Attack, like how Striking Flourish started out as just a forced Double Attack, then it will be worthless. If they add some kind of cool enhancement to it, then it might be useful.

I never messed with Striking so I couldn't know how bad or good it is....but it double the first hit correct? Wouldn't triple be decent? Or would that be irrelevent now since Climactic Flourish can crit on anything now?
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#4 Aug 19 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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It's pretty convenient that we're kind of an overpoewred job, cuz I can't imagine this being useful at all.
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#5 Aug 19 2011 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know what disappoints me more: the fact that they think they can give us another useless JA (or at least one that was poorly thought out), or the fact that our new regain JA probably won't be coming until 96-99...
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#6 Aug 20 2011 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
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It stacks with WS yes? I understand how inside abyssea DA / TA effects would be kinda ~meh~ due to all the atma going on, but outside it seems it would be good for boosting WS numbers?
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#7 Aug 20 2011 at 8:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Except we already have like 3 other flourishes that are in that exact position of boosting WS numbers. Either this ability replaces them or it doesn't; net change, prolly not much. And we can't even stack them due to shared timer restrictions.

People that complain about DNC getting this and that don't understand DNC mechanics. Nearly all of our timers are shared and every flourish requires finishing moves, a resources that we only get by essentially wasting time (if SE announced that steps were misprogrammed and never did anything to begin with, I wouldn't blink twice) and are almost always better put into reverse flourish for a second weaponskill that can solo skillchain.
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#8 Aug 20 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Remember Charis Casaque +1 and +2 increases the chance of critical hit(and also force crit? I'm not confident taking the info from wikia) for both attack by 25% and 50% respectively. Pairing with the normal RR/GH atma, you gonna get a guaranteed crit on both forced DA.

Ternary Flourish will just be redundant.
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#9 Aug 20 2011 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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The wiki info for the +2 should be legit (thought it's uncited), but the crit value is static and doesn't seem to be affected by gear/merits/atma. This is a better page, probably.

Unless this ability does something dramatically different from what it says (like tripling fTP of the first hit when used with WS), it's not going to be worthwhile. They'll probably give some piece of enhancing gear for it that changes it somehow, but it likely won't be worth using over Climactic and really won't be worth using with anything but Rudra's no matter what they do.
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#10 Aug 20 2011 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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CF also can get up to an extra 20% dmg boost. Just figured this out myself. Keeping Charis Tiara +2 when you WS with CF gives you a boost of somewhere around 20%.
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#11 Aug 21 2011 at 2:46 AM Rating: Good
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with 95 it'll be :
-30 lv. since we last got a samba(50 since we got our most used samba),
-40 lv. since we last got a jig,
-35 lv. since we last got a non-thf flourish,
-65 lv. since we last got a somewhat useful step,
-50 lv. since we got our most used waltz.

yet we get another thf flourish... <.<

I iz disapoint, SE !

also, i officialy ask the flourish groups to be renamed :
flourishes 1 : violent flourish
flourishes 2 : poor sam, they really needed theses flourish
flourishes 3 : i'm now thf flourish

on another note :

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Certain items required to enhance relic and relic +1 equipment will only drop if support job restrictions are enabled.


with cop dynamis v2, seems we'll be able to upgrade af2/+1 (augments ?)
could be really nice if there's some good "waltz delay-", "waltz tp cost-", etc...
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#12 Aug 21 2011 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought we were supposed to get some sort of regain ability.....I'm disappointed.
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#13 Aug 21 2011 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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Check this page out, Manaflow. I did the testing on that more than half a year ago. xD
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#14 Aug 24 2011 at 3:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Not overly impressed but I guess it is another FM dump, that is slightly better than the predecessor.
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#15 Aug 30 2011 at 2:28 AM Rating: Good
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Its a 2:30 recast. I really don't see myself using this ever.
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