This may be a purely academic question. If a dancer wanted to maximize the damage dealt with Aeolian Edge for AoE farming in Abyssea what atmas/gear would be the best?
I currently have Atma of Gales, Atma of the Beyond and Atma of the Brother Wolf. All either adding MAB or Wind att+. I wouldn't want to sacrifice alot of haste gear so which slots could you possibly substitute with MAB gear?
Would it be considered a waste of time to get two of the INT/MAB Daggers to possibly augment the damage done with AE? I researched the trials for those daggers and they look pretty easy.
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Regarding Aeolian EdgeFollow
Re. daggers: Aeolian Edge is quite significantly modified by TP. Using a Martial Knife and offhanding a TP Bonus Fusetto +2 will mean you WS as if you had 300% TP all the time. Very consistent and powerful, especially for DNCs who can Reverse two Edges back-to-back.
I'm not sure about the INT magian daggers: they are likely to outclass Martial/Fusetto if you hold on to TP when you're burning, but if you're able to use AE as close to 100TP as possible all the time, I would stick with Martial/Fusetto. Nonetheless, Martial is available with enough money, and the Fusetto trials are easy to grind out quickly (esp. for DNC).
Re. atma: Not sure what you mean by sacrificing Haste. AE and general TP should have different sets to make the most of your damage output. My set-up looks like this:
Not the perfect set; can upgrade with Novio, probably Shantotto pants if you're so inclined, maybe MAB Demon Rings if you're lucky to have them. Just load up on DEX, MAB, maybe INT if you're struggling, and take advantage of any situational aspects when they arise, e.g. Furin obi with Windsday, Windstorm, etc.
Re. atma: Gales is perfect. Things like Beyond and Howling Moon are great (+30 MAB). Brother Wolf is not quite so good (+20MAB) but on the right track. Ultimate and Hell's Guardian are the best for MAB (+50 MAB) if you're fortunate enough to have them. Arguments could be made for Smiting Blow if you don't have TP Bonuses. Hateful Stream could see some use on Windsday, but will probably see most mileage under a brew.
I'm not sure about the INT magian daggers: they are likely to outclass Martial/Fusetto if you hold on to TP when you're burning, but if you're able to use AE as close to 100TP as possible all the time, I would stick with Martial/Fusetto. Nonetheless, Martial is available with enough money, and the Fusetto trials are easy to grind out quickly (esp. for DNC).
Re. atma: Not sure what you mean by sacrificing Haste. AE and general TP should have different sets to make the most of your damage output. My set-up looks like this:
Martial/Fusetto+2/Charis Chimera Hairpin/Artemis's Medal (when moon >40%~) or Uggalepih Pendant/Moldavite/Hecate's Charis +2/Charis+2/Thundersoul/Rajas Etoile/Soil Belt or Furin Obi/Denali/Charis+2
Not the perfect set; can upgrade with Novio, probably Shantotto pants if you're so inclined, maybe MAB Demon Rings if you're lucky to have them. Just load up on DEX, MAB, maybe INT if you're struggling, and take advantage of any situational aspects when they arise, e.g. Furin obi with Windsday, Windstorm, etc.
Re. atma: Gales is perfect. Things like Beyond and Howling Moon are great (+30 MAB). Brother Wolf is not quite so good (+20MAB) but on the right track. Ultimate and Hell's Guardian are the best for MAB (+50 MAB) if you're fortunate enough to have them. Arguments could be made for Smiting Blow if you don't have TP Bonuses. Hateful Stream could see some use on Windsday, but will probably see most mileage under a brew.
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Aeolian edge has pretty hefty tp mod, so I believe tp bonus+100 dagger on main hand is the best. Then perhaps MAB dagger in off hand.
Edit add: Or martial and fusetto+2 as previous poster said, but at least on my server the price of martial is around 2-2.5 mil. :/
Gales is a given for one atma. Smiting blow (tp bonus: superior) is also very nice (tp bonus dagger and this atma stack, making every AE act like it was done with 300 tp). Then a MAB atma of your choice.
As for gear, I don't think there's any conflict between haste and MAB. You'd only use MAB for ws, right? Just like any other ws swap. There isn't a whole lot of MAB dnc can equip tho. Earrings (moldy, hecate's, novio), artemis medal or uggy, denali pants... that's about it.
Edited, Jul 26th 2011 6:40am by Sharain
Edit add: Or martial and fusetto+2 as previous poster said, but at least on my server the price of martial is around 2-2.5 mil. :/
Gales is a given for one atma. Smiting blow (tp bonus: superior) is also very nice (tp bonus dagger and this atma stack, making every AE act like it was done with 300 tp). Then a MAB atma of your choice.
As for gear, I don't think there's any conflict between haste and MAB. You'd only use MAB for ws, right? Just like any other ws swap. There isn't a whole lot of MAB dnc can equip tho. Earrings (moldy, hecate's, novio), artemis medal or uggy, denali pants... that's about it.
Edited, Jul 26th 2011 6:40am by Sharain
I think this might work but I better ask the experts...
If I were to offhand a Martial Sword, would my AE still get the TP bonus? I understand there will be an accuracy issue for offhand swings, but I'm wondering if it would all be the same as far as AE damage.
If I were to offhand a Martial Sword, would my AE still get the TP bonus? I understand there will be an accuracy issue for offhand swings, but I'm wondering if it would all be the same as far as AE damage.
Server: Asura
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
Main jobs: DNC,WHM,RDM,SCH
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
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jpcampbell wrote:
If I were to offhand a Martial Sword...
NEVERMIND... just realized DNC can't equip Martial Sword. So much for that genius idea.
Server: Asura
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
Main jobs: DNC,WHM,RDM,SCH
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
Main jobs: DNC,WHM,RDM,SCH
Oh,another question... would I not want to use Minikin Monstrosity for the INT mod? Or is that totally outclassed by Gales, various MAB and TP bonus atma?
Server: Asura
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
Main jobs: DNC,WHM,RDM,SCH
Player: Urarenge
Linkshell: SteelSyndicate
Main jobs: DNC,WHM,RDM,SCH
There are many options better than Minikin, but it's better than no Atma.
I use this set. The Fusetto +2 is TP Bonus +100.
I use this set. The Fusetto +2 is TP Bonus +100.
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jpcampbell wrote:
Oh,another question... would I not want to use Minikin Monstrosity for the INT mod? Or is that totally outclassed by Gales, various MAB and TP bonus atma?
Gales is pure wind damage and nothing beats that period. I favor that and ultimate, and smiting blow (TP Bonus) since I do not have a TP Bonus dagger for my main or offhand. I will also use Sea Daughter sans ultimate or smiting blow at times for the crazy Regain but that just depends on what we are doing in zone and if farming key items and needing to proc the NMs.
Edited, Jul 28th 2011 10:22am by kenshynOnShiva
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Personally, I use gales/ultimate/smiting. I'm currently working on a tp bonus dagger to use offhand, and a WS dmg +10% dagger(Fusuto +1) for main-hand considering smiting/fusuto are already 300tp. both daggers are relatively easy to obtain. a MAB magian dagger will be at most a 5% increase in damage with ultimate atma alone, adding MAB gear will reduce this. During brews MAB has very little gain, while WSdmg+10% will always be +10%.
As to the question about off-handing martial sword(beyond sword not being equip-able), none of the "Martial" weapons work off-hand anyway, but the fusuto's do.
As to the question about off-handing martial sword(beyond sword not being equip-able), none of the "Martial" weapons work off-hand anyway, but the fusuto's do.
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Re. daggers: Aeolian Edge is quite significantly modified by TP. Using a Martial Knife and offhanding a TP Bonus Fusetto +2 will mean you WS as if you had 300% TP all the time.
Holy crap are you serious
If so, I may have found myself a new project
Yeah, I've got it and it works.
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Kinda funny really... I had Martial Knife as a dagger for my RDM for the longest time, until I eventually saved up enough for a Blau, and then I ditched the Martial... fast forward to years later, now their respective values have practically reversed.
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as have their respective costs on the AH =).
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