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Atmas of Baying Moon and Stout Arm for all situations.
I get a major MAB and two major ATT bonuses plus a major STR and RATT bonus.
Functional in a lot of settings. Opens up all my ws's even if I'm mostly QDing for TP.

Interested in RR with stout arm for xp situations but haven't got that yet (hopefully this Tues)

Im still not sure that boosting QD damage isnt tye way to go over VV, especially once you get wildfire. Being able to drop 400-800 qds every 45 seconds while being able to ws on top of that seems like it would be better.

I think RR should be a definite choice for exp sessions. The boost to crit rate and melee acc from the dex boost in general is pretty significant. Your almost doubling your melee hit damage which makes up for a large portion of our damage.

As for the second atma, while VV is nice, I dont think it will help as much as Atma of the Beyond, or some type of regain atma. Currently I find myself taking to much hate and dieing even /nin, especially against people without atma.

I find n cor I need to chug atma often. For exp or te farming RR and VV or SA are great and fun (or even vv and SA just to feel like a dd).
Often need ranged or magic atma in different NMs. I happy it's so quick to change them out. Now I hope they make a refresh and MAB atma. Would be nice to have both in only one atma slot.

Isn't the synthed Atma from Windy rank missions a MAB +30 and Refresh 5mp/tic Atma?

Given even when I go /RDM to an Abyssea event I don't use my MP for much more than stoneskin/blink and the occ Cure 3 (which the Refresh spell covers nicely), I'm not too fussed about Refresh + MAB.

My ultimate COR Atma would be MAB +30, AGI +50, RATT major. You put that on an Atma and let me combine with VV or RR (depending on if I'm meleeing or shooting) and I'd be pretty stoked.

You're thinking of the ASA Atma. The Windy Mission one has MAB and refresh like he said.

Yes given our QD give TP, in a kited fight often the COR is building alot of hate with ranged WS and QD damage. Multiply that damage with a pile of MAB and RATT and COR's life expectancy might be short.

**** of a fight? Things a complete joke.

What was your setup? Anyjob can kite it, i kted a good chunk of my fight as Cor/rdm.

Maybe a silly question, but:

Does an atma like 'Atma of byond' boost Ice shot further with the Ice attack: Major?

However, if you already have 2 MAB atmas giving 30 MAB each then the bonus on Smoldering Sky is not offering anything special, right?

For example, Baying Moon and Beyond = 60 MAB. Smoldering Sky + Beyond = 60 MAB (Fire only, 30 MAB all others).

I'm just curious if I am missing something.


And yes, Beyond + Baying Moon = **** *** ice shot

Well actually its Baying Moon + Beyond = 90 MAB Ice and 60 MAB others. Smouldering Sky + Beyond = 60 Fire and Ice, 30 MAB others.
However Smoldering Sky has magical crit on it and maybe that is what seems to push its effect on Wildfire higher than you'd see with Baying Moon and Beyond.

Meleeing for TP: Razed Ruins and Stout Arm
Shooting for TP: Stout Arm and Drifter
Quick Draw: Baying Moon and Beyond.

In that situation yeah, I would agree with you. I hope to get my 3rd lunar abyssite soon, would give me a little more freedom to play around. If they give us a way to get a fourth one by the time we hit 99 I would be estatic. Razed Ruins, Stout Arm, Baying Moon, Drifter GO!

Wouldnt ultimate and beyond bethe best qd atmas over smoulder sky os baying
moon?

I would believe theres a poiny where your qd can override your melee damage if you psh it high enough to use two qd atmas over just one qd atma. Could be wrong but if your pushing the high 800s on qd it might beat out doing 1 dd 1 qd.

Of course that only works if you can stand in melee range of the mob safely. For any kited or bad AoE fight, RR atma isn't going to cut it over MAB. If COR had a crit hit WS maybe since we can get TP from QD and ranged.

But last night we were doing some NM's with bad AoE so the melee were med/regainingTPing weak stuff and just WS'ing while I was QDing/WSing with Baying moon/Ultimate and Wizards/Tactitcians as COR/RDM. I was doing considerably more damage with 500-700 QD's and 1000-1400 Leaden salutes. Only the BLM were keeping up.

I imagine a Wildfire bearing COR would fare significantly better.

While I agree COR/RDM is pretty superior for QD and such. I find myself constantly as /nin so I can absorb damage and spells. This is obviously different then a large group, but since I do mostly small man stuff I am constantly always the person with hate. While RDM is nice for the added benefits some of the stuff we are killing make stoneskin useless almost.

I see it as two major options for big stuff. I usually go in a big group to a lot of major fights (why get atma for and abyssites for 6 people when you can get them for 18?) and smaller groups for lesser NM's (seals, +2 items, KI). For the bigger groups /RDM rules and while you can occasionally get taken out, for the most part it offers safe steady damage. For the smaller groups /NIN works nicely so you can kite effectively. With both situations though I'm using MAB atma rather than SA/RR.

If I'm there for ranged damage, I'm on RNG.

I agree with most of this. I think QD is clearly the way to go in Abyssea and only the boots are a must-have in that regard. I too am shocked they didn't give us a single piece with MAB on it (except the neckpiece with a whooping +3), instead opting to give us MAcc which is highly debatable if we even need it.

I actually don't think they split the stats up much at all...all the pieces, even the neck and back armor, tells us they want us to be Rangers with a gun...except they won't give us a better, CHEAPER bullet (yes, I've read about how Oberon's is SUPPOSED to be that, but it just isn't...blame greed, blame lack of mats or whatever, but reality is the bullet is stupidly expensive on many servers, and the bullet damage does not even exceed a Silver Bullet, and that can be used at LVL 50 by RNG...), so it is still stupidly expensive to play that way. They also completely overlooked COR as far as triggering weaknesses so even if we do play like that, you STILL need a RNG for all the RA WS triggers.

But, that being said I feel they got that wrong too because they gave us so much RAcc and almost no RAtt or STR to help with the low damage output. I know COR's have less ACC innately than RNGs, but come on....I can already land more Slug Shots on T3s than some RNGs do. I really do hope the Triple Damage Augment trigger rate goes up by a good percentage per piece (and not just 1-2%)...it's really all that's keeping me going and collecting the pieces at the moment.

SE should take whoever is in charge of COR gear and get rid of him too...since they are changing directors and stuff everywhere anyways. I felt they got it right for a lot of classes (DRG, WAR, BLM, WHM, and others come to mind), but really missed here with COR.



Edited, Dec 18th 2010 4:07am by dawkins965

I prefer Ultimate + Smouldering Sky + Lone Wolf. For pure dmg output, nothing else has come close for me. I have all the major dd atmas, but at the end of the day, I'm really only tping to ws. Averaging 1k+ Fire Shots and 5k+ Wildfires are pretty hard to beat.

Since I don't have hells guardian... I won't have this issue, but, it's an interesting question:

My thoughts would be
Ultimate (MAB +50, MAcc +50 - should pretty much negate any worries for resists/acc issues - unless the mob is naturally magic resistant... then you can't do anything about it anyway)
****'s Guardian (MAB +50)

The big choice for the 3rd slot really depends if there's much difference other than wording.

Smoldering Sky = Fire Attack: Major (so what +40? or +30) and Magic Crit +: Major (again, exact number not known, but probably similar to crit hit increase major)

Lone Wolf = Fire Magic Attack: Major (so... same numbers as above).

The question is - is there a difference between LW & SS.
Easy to check. Do 10 WS with wildfire with one, 10 WS with wildfire with the other. If there's a difference, you know which one to go with.

If there isn't... Well, I'd go with Smoldering Sky - just because, I don't know if Magic Crit affects Elemental WS. But, even if there's a small chance it does... win.

Any suggestions on a mob/NM?

I'm thinking worms in aby-latheine, plus a suggested NM