We're the least popular job in VanadielFollow

So the 9th annual census just came out and in both survey results (Question: "What is your favorite main job") and in actual playtime, COR ranked 20 out of 20 jobs.

Of course if they asked the question, which jobs would you most like to party with, we'd rank a bit higher up I'd say.

So what's your opinion?
Like being a rare job? Like being unique? Wish SE would do something to improve the popularity of the job?

Must admit I'm on the fence. Being the rare job means its easier to get drops for COR equipment. It also means I'm wanted in parties and don't have to fight with 100 other COR's seeking. But I always worry that if no one is playing the job, SE is more inclined to just forget about you (like they seem to have done with PUP).

So hitting auto-attack and spamming job ability macros is what accounts for excitement these days in Vanadiel. Sad really. As a COR I get to roll a mini-game of blackjack, improve other players skills, sleep adds, do damage, dispel, heal, etc. Doesn't get more exciting than that.

I think the server population just likes "easy and cheap" as their default mode. The bottom 4 jobs: COR, SCH, PUP, RNG are all either pricey, difficult to do or both.

Like being rare? Check.
Like being unique? Check.
There are many other jobs that need improving before COR.

But unfortunately none of those jobs would do EPEEN DAMAGE without the help of others. Most of those OMGWTF damage moments occur with the help of Chaos, Minuet, March, Haste, Angon, Dia and food.

And it's always, "OMG I just did XXXX damage on this WS!" rather than the appropriate "We just did XXXX damage to this mob."

I'm pretty sure people just spit out 3k slugshots by themselves, no buffs required lol. I'm finally getting around leveling corsair, and it does seem like a lot of work, but also brings a lot to that 6th party spot. A decent amount of damage and super cool buffs, idk why it isn't popular.

Here is my question, which job does more damage? Bard buffs/debuffs or corsair DD/buffs? Some day I hope brd or cor becomes a bandwagon job, so I can finally party with them all the time.

In total there is about 50-70 cors on my server. 40 of those are 75 or 70+, and theres never more then 20 on at one time. Out of all of that, theres only 3-4 COR mainsbesides
Myself. Everyone else uses another job as their main for events.


Really most people dont have the will or gil to dpend getting COR to 70+, where the cost drops off.

i'm sure it's because the job is a) expensive, b) new(ish), and c) already accepted as useful. if (c) doesn't make sense to you, some of those PUPs you meet who are constantly trying to convince you that PUP is the greatest job in the game are only PUPs in the first place so they can convince people that {unpopular job} is the greatest job in the game.

it's still a bit weird though. (shrug)

I enjoy to have the rarest job in the game leveled, however is really hard to convince ppl about the "right way" when 90% of that tiny fraction that constitute the Cor community are cheap-asses who learn towards /Whm onry!!!!

Other than that, is great to be rare ^^d /grin

Ken.

Truly the unique and beautiful snowflakes of Vanadiel are the PUP's.

Unfortunately most of the current crop of COR's are BRDs that want to level something cooler than BRD. The true hardcore COR is a dying breed. We have COR's on my LS but you'll never see them on COR. People levelled it to be a cool support job and not be a BRD and then realized they didn't like being a support job and jumped back to SAM/WAR/PLD/RDM/WHM/DRG/THF or whatever else they preferred.

Wow, COR the least popular?

I saw the Census and then I saw this thread here. Mind you, my COR is my lowest leveled job at 28, and on Shiva, finding a COR that's seeking is pretty rare (usually less than 20 CORs on the server at any given time) but if I see a COR seeking, I will invite that COR.

Trust me, look at some of my 75 jobs, I know all about being on "non-popular" jobs.

Also a lot of people dont know what our buffs do our what numbers the COR should be landing. This just feeds the sh*tty CORs invites and spreads false truths that our buffs are just as strong as 2x brr songs or better. Dont get me started on random deal or wild card.

My friends like to merit with me but they usually want me to pull because i sponge to much as cor/rng and soon /war.

Corsair is one of the main reasons that I kept playing this game as long as I did, and I'm proud to consider it my main job. I love the fact that it lets you do a little bit of everything depending on your setup and what you're fighting. There are so many ways to play the job well, and even despite being a "hybrid" style job, it is still one of the most sought after in the game.

A kylen sighting!

For the love of all things good, heck no!

BRD already is a bandwagon job. It gets the most invites to a party and everyone wants a BRD in their party. Then we get princess BRD syndrome and BRDs that don't care about their job and are just lvling it because they can get a free ride to 75.

I don't want to see this happen to COR. If you are going to play any job, please do it the right way or GTFO.

I guess I'm slightly surprised COR is 20th. I knew it would be among the lowest but figured PUP, SCH and DNC might be lower. I've honestly only seen a DNC75 in a party, event, or w/e once in my entire FF life lol.

It's funny because, at least on Pandy, I've noticed a lot more CORs running around in WG recently. Heck, my salvage shell (probably about 18 ppl total) had FIVE CORs in it though I might be the only one to consider COR a "main" (SAM n COR my 1A and 1B jobs, but i spend far more time on COR these days). Obviously the cost of the job and I also think the unfamiliarity of the job make it a rare pick. Unless you've leveled BRD, you really don't have much of a sense of what COR is like (and even then, the differences are still significant). With most DD or healer jobs (imo), if you've played one, you can play most. The differences between WAR, DRK and DRG aren't that huge in terms of playstyle. Even though BRD is clearly the most COR-like job out there, it's really completely difference in terms of the buff cycle and what the job can do, light years apart.

My question for the people is which job (or jobs) do you think have the largest gap between the really good players and the bad players. Being that we're ont h COR forums, I'd expect many of us would pick COR. Honestly, I think it *might* be the right answer. The ceiling on COR is soooo much higher than most of them have attained. I'd like to consider myself one of the better CORs around in terms of being able to dish out some true damage, being a good puller when needed, being able to /mage and be an invaluable back-up healer and STILL DD, plus knowledge of what rolls to use and when, rolling intelligently to get the most out of my rolls, and using QD to enhance other people's enfeebs. And despite all that, I'm not done yet. Still some gear I need to add (mostly Salvage stuff, enkidu body would be nice too) so I can still get better.

I can't believe Cor came 20/20 for least popular to level (It hasn't stopped Martial Gun shooting up in price over the last few months). There have been times elveling COR that I've absolutely loved it (especially when I hav'nt been with stupid DD).

As RNG is down in bottom 4 too, I think huge factors come with ppl not liking playing RNG'd jobs (cost is a part of this) and for COR, its 2nd best to RNG for Rng'd dmg. Many ppl just don't understand COR, Many ppl portray it as a crappy job (becasue they are sh*t at cor themselves. All the ppl that don't DU on 6's don't give the uber buffs (and many of those just DW daggers onry too).



Except SAM using a GKT. Att and acc buffs do very little and in many instances, nothing to a SAM's epeen gekko dmg. Sam's just need Haste buffs and lots of them.

No. The census said people on average make ~100k per week. This does not mean full week farming, means doing what you usually do in a week you will get a average of 100k

It is *very* different than making 100k for a full week making money only.

You probably don't need to worry about COR getting as bad as BRD, remember how hard the flag quest was? my lvl 65 paladin escort died in one hit from everything there! by the end of it, we had only 1-2 silent oils and prism powders left. The BRD flag quest is just a little bit of running around in fairly safe areas. I'd venture to say that BRD is probably the easiest flag quest in the game, but i haven't unlocked every job yet so i can't say for certain.

THF. The gap between good THF and bad THF just dwarfs any other job in the game. I won't even invite a pickup THF.

Crappy COR has limited impact as long as I watch what they are rolling; crappy THF is a waste of a slot.

I'm glad not many people play COR, because then I wouldn't get invited to as many pts.
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Going by my dyna shell - there is one guy with COR 75 (who always comes THF as we're short on them) and two more of us with it in the mid-60s so there's minimal competition for AF2 (apart from the other mid-60s guy who decided to lie and say he was 75 so he could get it over people). I'm 3/5 on the set already at level 64.

People don't like buffing jobs basically - while COR's so rare it can stand up against people who want to treat them like dirt, it's still a massive issue within the game balance (and the reason I retired BRD - I got sick of being ordered around like something you'd stepped in by melee). The cost is also a factor - the ammo I don't find hideous - its the sheer number and cost of dice on top of that which really hurts to the point where I know friends quit the job mid 50s and I took a fair break to let my gil recharge.

700k+ on Dice alone I believe?

Then the 30k or so on Full sets of cards (I always bought 2 stacks of each regardless so I never added this up)

The probably millions in ammo depending on how you use it

Yeah I can see why COR would be least popular.

Yeah if Steel bullets go any higher (already 200k+) you can guarantee most CORs would stop using it even for just WS/QD purposes.

The only way to solve that..is put COR on more ammo..or make Corsair Bullet's more common.

Anyone have a link to the census? I was hoping to read it but can't find it because my hands are cold... (uh, if you think about it, the excuse makes sense)

I just wanted to play COR because its a pirate. I can handle getting the bullets, Ill just make my own (alch 60) Ill get smithing/gold smithing up and farm to make as many as can to cut corners. I also got an LS of obscenly rich people to help me out, a few of them the guys I work with.