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Any Stats affect smn?

Are there any BP that benefit from stacking Mind or Int?

Thanks, looked around but did not see the awsner, if I missed it, appologies, cause its late.

Actually, has anyone really tested if more int or mind makes a diffrence?
I really think it has some effect. Not huge but is has to some way.

We all know that smn skill and Pet stats do.

nope they dont. you can stack as much as you like it wont up ya avatars power. only way to really buff them is either equipment or ward pacts.

for example if you do glittering ruby and carby gets a lucky bonus to int then his meteorites will pack a little more punch. but its generally a waste of mp. and theres a 1/7 chance than ruby will affect int so not worth it.

same goes for diabolos. if you do dream shroud then you can ooz out a bit more oomph from nether blast. again can be a waste of mp unless your at an event in the blackmage party and thus would be using dream shroud anyways.

the only equipment that affects avatars is stuff that either
A: has avatar perp-z, (plus the obvious elemental staves and carbunles mitts)
B: has summoning skill +y,
C: has enhances avatar x (x = attack defence evasion crit% accuraccy etc etc) or
D: has blood pact ability delay +/-

and as far as i am aware theres no food that affects avatars either. as much as i wish there was. and if there is then its new and ive overlooked it.

Edited, May 18th 2009 7:14am by Dzian

Thanks guys, I am elvaan, so I rather stack mp gear, and since the other stats don't matter, I will stack away. I can only hit 1100 without breaking out Z legs, which I rather use AF for now.

1100 is nothing to be worried about. I'm just a tad over that as a galka.

In the end, you will learn that MP management and hMP are far better than Max MP.

My SMN Magic skill is incredibly gimp, so gimp, that I won't post it here.

Will I be able to land BP on gods. Specifically can i land any decent dmg on Kirin with very VERY gimp Smn skill.

I just hit 74 and was thinking of trying to just use Diablos on him.

Or i will just go War.

Actually, don't matter if you are 5 below cap or 200 below cap. There is no negative side effect for being below cap. (Other than spirits) You only get bonus above cap. So Diabolos should be unaffected for you, outside of normal resistances (which Diabolos is rarely hit with.)

As for the other sky gods....SMN kinda sh*t anyways, although the merit BPs help a ton more. But melee and BLMs still better choice.

Max MP can be nice but like others have said getting it back quick is the most important factor.

my smn usually has 1150 mp at max. but with various gear swaps i can push it up to 1431. i usually only do this when soloing the kind of stuff i can't melee for spirit taker. one example being pots in sky.

what i'll typically do is start with my 1431 mp summon titan and then pop mountain buster on a pot. usually leaves me with about 1250 mp so at this point i swap out some of my mp gears for normal stuff like aflegs and horn. and i'm still sitting pretty at 100% and had myself a free mountain buster. and then after a second mountain buster i'll swap in the rest of my gear and still be sitting on almost 1000mp.

while its not hugely essential to do this it does add a factor of survivability for the omg a bloodpact missed kind of thing. giving you mp for spare pacts to cover any misses/whiffs (lol200predatorclaws).

other situations where max mp can have a use is in mobile stuff. limbus is one example. isnt always a great deal of time to rest as your climbing up the floors so having an extra cushion can help keep things running a bit more smoothly. i understand sch is also a good solution for this but its not something i've managed to level yet for a sub.

so yeah max mp can have its uses but shouldn't take priority over mp/healing gear

I usually plain count on 1k MP on my mithra. It does go up to 1100 or so in some pieces, but my hmp set caps out at 980 and I don't want to rest that much further past that.

o.O your poor neighborhood kitens.

55 MP is all I get right now.

I am 74 now, got a wopping 56 mp return.

Some burns and a LOT of pts below 30.

Don't worry though I love smn and would never play a gimped job. I would not have taken it all the way if I did not like it this much and plan to play it properly, which is why i read the stickies and ask questions.

I am already going to spam summons while wait on events, and will take smn to sky on nights we farm or do kirin. (I tank on the 4 gods)


I am hoping its not to painfull a process. I am hoping to cap it in a month or 2.

Wish me luck.

If you want to LOL you should see the comments some of my ls mates make when my buffs last only a 1 min and 30 seconds. They are all like WTF.

Should just go do some BP: Rage. You could spam while waiting on events too if you want, but if you really plan to cap it, go use offensive BPs. It's the best way to go. It shouldn't take more than a few days to cap. You can do what I do and just FoV while doing it.

Edited, May 19th 2009 5:03pm by Ildon

@ Tyleron:

there's something i really like about you: your honesty XD

good success with capping your skill.

I usually don't do the assault after BP as it will mess up my gear change macro (My BP macro swaps in -BP gears, wait 1 sec then swaps in avatar + stats gears). The first part, standing in front of the kite mob's path, issuing the BP command just before it comes in range is the same. But instead of issuing an assault command, what I do is to immediately run alongside the kite mob after I issued the BP. As my avatar is not assaulted to anything, it will kept on following me. As long as I'm beside the kite mob, the BP will land.

But I guess these techniques have somewhat lost a bit of their worth after the last update.


Edited, May 21st 2009 4:11pm by yipkwokonn

Diabolos, imo, is the best skill up avatar if you can keep your mp up (ie he is GREAT in besieged)

Spam nether blast and somnolence, both of which can never miss, and since you're using it on a target it has a much better chance of skill ups. Missing with a debuff/physical hit will never yield skill, and using a buffing ward has much lower chances of skill ups.