SMN EXP exploit I love you SE 20-40k EXPFollow

No worries about Ballista points or Besieged, for a little 300-750 gil fee, pop into Abdhaljs-Isle Purgonorgo from Upper jeuno, and start "Quarrying" for revitalizers. When everyone get's one, jump out and get back on the leveling train.

Please be discreet where you do this. If you end up clearing the zone a few times, then another smn pt moves in and does the same thing, etc etc, then yeah, SE are gonna notice.

For example, don't do something stupid and clear the dunes a few times every day. The dunes and qufim are hella popular exp grounds right now, so what you're doing will be noticed, and you know someone will call a GM about it, assuming they don't notice on their own.

Are there any zones that aren't frequently exp'd in that would be good for this?

Wow, I really want to try this now. But when you are level synched, do you only earn exp, or if you are 75 scaled down, can you earn limit points?

We used Sea Serpent Grotto laste night, sync'd to 28 with 3 smn, and died, lol.
Cor reset 2 hrs,
Tried same mobs with 4 smn at lvl 32, worked great, but our puller keeps die'ing.


Question of the day, when a Smn level sync's do they lose their pet?
If not, is the pet still lvl 75, or the new sync?

Not a Smn main and read through the post as it caught my eye. SE wont nerf Smn or Astral Flow, they will just nerf the sync cool down... as I stated they might do or should do to help prevent abuse of the system :). I can see SE nerfing Sync from 30 seconds to more like 3 minutes after lvl sync is turned on or off.

But hella idea and find till the nerf comes :) Pure Awsomeness!

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 4:00pm by Stucco

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 4:00pm by Stucco

DRG Wyvern Goes down so you would have to assume that SMN, PUP and BST Jugs do aswell.

Also, unless it was fixed in the Emergency Maint today. BST Still lose their Jug Pets and Charmed mobs despawnuncharm.
This was meant to be fixed the same time as PUP and Avatars so it could still be broken.

Edited, Sep 17th 2008 2:53am by Equivocator

The source

Supposedly, they changed this in the september 11 update.



Wii would like to patch

Sooo... ever since LVL Synch was introduced, the DRGs didn't lose their wyvern if it was activated. Furthermore, the BSTs, SMNs and PUPs no longer lose their pets when this is activated or someone levels up since the September 11 update.

I haven't tested the update notes, but I would at least hope that the patch notes are correct. However, if they are proven to be erroneous after they said it was working that way... The next thing I'll expect from them is a letter like this...

"Dear player:
Tee hee hee
Signed,
SE."

In topic

I have talked to my Ls mates through the marvel that is the Internet and only one of them is interested in trying this out -.-;

Anyone that would like to try it in Valefor?

Not True, I tested this last night. When you level synch you DO lose your avatar. I have no idea about pup or bst as i do not play those jobs.

@Topic, I tried this last night.

The First time around I was the puller. I went to Lower Del. Tower. I started on the second floor and healed in front of my prey and proceeded to gather up every giga, goblin and bat. The mistake I made on pull #1 was that once i got to the 1st floor, i healed in front of another giga to grab him and go. This locked me up. I must have had 40 mobs circling me and throwing rocks SO much that I couldn't stand up for around 2 minutes. By the time i stood up my health was SO low that I died. I accidently subbed BLM too so i couldn't cure myself. So.. I home pointed.

Pull #2, I did the same thing with the same mobs. Making sure to sub whm and put buffs on myself this time. I collected what I fealt was about 40+ mobs and brought them to my team. Looking through my friends chat logs was very confusing. They got around 10k xp but the highest i could see was chain 12. So im not sure if the server just got hit with the messages so fast that i was only recieving some of them? I'm not too sure.

Pull #3, My friend came on THF to pull for us for this round as it was my turn to be an astral flow'er. This time I'm not sure what happened, I think maybe he didn't walk slow enough or something. It looked like he had around 20+ mobs, But we only saw Chain 7 for ~2800 xp.

All and All not too shabby for a first attempt. We had this one guy in zone whining and crying and I was doing my best to be as polite as possible. I assured him that we were just performing a test and he was more than welcome to steal a mob from my hoard. Next time i plan on avoiding the tower all together so to avoid that. My intent was to try a beastman stronghold but I did not have enough time for that as I had Limbus.

Carby did remain out for me after leveling, but I've never had him out to begin a sync'd party with.

Was probably only this they did then? No more depop just because someone dings, but you can't try and keep a 75 charmed pet in your level 10 party. (Except your exp would be totally killed anyway)

So how do you go about rounding up that many mobs without damaging them? Provoke/link/heal?

Actually, one of the first places I think of to do this is the Leech King room in the Maze. Gotta be 25+ leeches in that room alone, plus another dozen scattered.

Lots of things to link there - gobs, crawlers, bats, etc..
The tunnel just outside that room would be ideal to keep everything together for the blasting.


Edited, Sep 18th 2008 4:02pm by Turnerbrown

Tried this today, got about 5k from one, it only *showed* that I got chain 8 on my screen, but that would have been only 2100 exp, so I know I got more. Not sure why they didn't show on my chat log though.

I guess I am the only one concerned about all the new Smn75s with full merit but Summoning skill of 21. That's gotta be painful to skill up after all the fun.

You get the exp from all of them, but the screen only registeres about half.

Take note of your Exp before yous tart and after. What'd you get?
Then add up what the screen says you got. What'd you get?

In my experience I always get more than what the screen registers.

The screen was only registering about 2500 exp, I was getting about 5000 exp, but that is nowhere near what I should have gotten for what my screen registered as 'Ramuh defeats ....' x41

I thought that I was having some sort of capped exp situation as well, but as the title suggests, others have been getting far more exp than myself.

We have gotten up to 8k now, taking our sync from lvl 10 to 13, so I'm not sure if it's the TNL issue, but I'm wondering if there isn't some other limitation at work.

Luckily, with carby, I can hold the mobs for about 3-4 minutes without worry, so I counted them, and had:
27 bats
14 goblins
14 leeches
12 crawlers


I think I figured out what was limiting us a *bit*. When we sync to level 10, some of those mobs are way to high to die to an AF. If the mobs are too high, they get hate on the avatars, then disappear when the avatars go away. Our recent run was about 8.5-9k with chain 32 after I took this into account. Now, to plan pull routes for the *right* level mobs.

There is a limit to the base xp. As you say, you would get around 250 xp for the first kill which is the max base xp you can get from level 51-60. The bombs in ifrit are around level 62-68, so if there was no limit to the base xp you would get something like 530 base xp if the bomb is 10 levels higher than you. After the base xp there is the multipliers for chains, number of PT members etc. A good source for calculation of xp is this.

Edit: link broken.

Go to somepage -> FFXI Links -> Other -> Experiance gain per kill.

Edited, Oct 8th 2008 2:40pm by IcemanDK

So, we've accomplished this a bit more, so I thought I would write an article on how we are doing it. Our situation is a little unique, not everyone will be able to do this, but this is how it's working for us. Last night we got 21k in less than an hour, which is pretty good EXP for any SMN.

Areas to Burn - Level Range:
Maze of Shakrami - 10-16
Valkurm Dunes - 15-20

Party Makeup:
External Support
1 36+ WHM/BLM for teleports
1 75 SMN/BLM w/ lvl 1 cor - for trains

Burn Party
3 10+SMN/ANY - For burning
2 ANY/ANY - For leeching
1 level sync target (see above)

* Note: One of the jobs should have a corsair that is level 5+ that is either main or subjob for Corsair Roll

In our case, the 2 leeches are the same 2 characters over and over again, bring warp items, and have level 1 Corsair.

Level 10 Sync:
Starting with the lower level sync, the 75 SMN should pull carby out and go to the far end of the big room near the zone line of Tahrongi Canyon. To prevent mobs that don't give the burn party exp, I will elaborate on this. The SMN should 'Attack' a mob, then 'Retreat'. Take it to a nearby mob that will *link* to the original mob. Now re-'Attack' the original mob, and let carby kill it, should be only 2 hits or less. This will keep the link agro, but not cost the burn party exp. Grabbing a majority of the mobs in the big room, and the little room heading back to zone line, should net you a good amount of EXP. Taking your sync from 10 to 12-13

Types of Mobs
Bats
Goblins
Crawlers - Do not go down the ramp to the scorpion room yet, this is later levels.

Level 13 Sync:
You are still in the Maze at this point, but you have a much longer pull ahead of you this round. From the big room of the last start point, go north. Stay on the east side of the map and follow the tunnel down to the room at the bottom with the crawlers and the scorpions. The SMN should 'Attack' a mob, then 'Retreat'. Take it to a nearby mob that will *link* to the original mob. Now re-'Attack' the original mob, and let carby kill it, should be only 2 hits or less. This will keep the link agro, but not cost the burn party exp. Grabbing a majority of the mobs in the big room, and the little room heading back to zone line, should net you a good amount of EXP. Taking your sync from 12-13 to 15-16. At this point, you've pretty much capped the Maze party, and it's time to move on, or find a different sync target.

Types of Mobs
Leeches
Crawlers
Bats
Goblins

Use of Support Party
I know most are asking why the WHM/BLM is needed at this point. In our specific party, the 3 non-burning members of the party all have corsair unlocked, but not leveled. Usually with a scroll of warp or another item. The SMN/BLM Also has a cor, but should be used last, since he should be starting the next pull while the job change/warp/teleport takes place.

The lower level person will warp to their nation of choice (We used whitegate), change to Corsair, and get the WHM/BLM to take them back to mea.

In our case, the 3xSMN would meet the corsair at mea, and try to reset the 2hr. Regardless of If it worked, the corsair would then die, and change back to their original job, and get the WHM/BLM to tele them back out. If it didn't work, the next lower level job should try. The catch, is the 2nd character should wait for the 1st character to be on their original job at mea, with the burned SMN's. Since Corsair 2hr won't reset another Corsair's 2hr, the first character will need to be on a job *other* than corsair for the 2hr reset to work on them as well. This will allow more over-all chances to reset the 2hr.

MISC info

The average pull took about 15-20 minutes from start to finish. My 75 SMN was able to keep carby alive for 23 minutes after all the mobs were pulled with proper gear and using healing ruby II when he got below 50% HP. This should allow plenty of time for the corsairs to reset the 2hr of the SMNs, and time to run back to the zone line for the next pull. All mobs in big + Small room will give EXP at 15-16, so it is wise to pull them all.

This method is not recommended for people with slow computers, the puller (and smns) will get R2500-2900 on the bigger pulls.

We were able to get as high as chain 41, but it still took us 2-3 pulls in Maze to get the 21k. One of my characters had an anniversary band + Emporer band, both of which were used by 1 pull each, totaling 26k for them.

Tips for the summoner party: * Thanks Shourin

- Wait for the trainer to settle the mobs. Let mobs collect to a dense group.
- Risk vs. reward. Targeting the toughest mob in the group will make it more likely that your astral flow will go off. Also increases the likelihood that the mob will live and beat you after.
- Don't release your avatars in presence of the train. The mobs will aggro you and kill you before you begin.


More Notes:

Mobs that link by sight seem to despawn *much* easier than those by sound. And those that track by smell (ie. orcs) will despawn if you run through water, which makes Ghelsba a bad choice to do this. To keep the mobs from despawning, making round-about circles every now and then seems to help tremendously.

Edited, Oct 9th 2008 9:44am by Toioiz

Edited, Oct 9th 2008 3:03pm by Toioiz

And to think i got smn up the old fashioned way. which was fun.

Guess i'm old school.

lolwut?

Summoners and =10 : a match made in hell.


:<

yup.