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Radeon has released the new 6800 series, and I'm a little confused. I would assume that they are more powerful that the 5800 series, and yet they are priced at almost $100 cheaper.
Can someone who knows what the numbers mean take a look at the specs of the 6800 and 5800 cards and explain which is better, or why the price difference?
edit: Actually Tom's Hardware explains it pretty well. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Cayman line to come out.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 9:25am by striveldt
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I guess you found the answer.
I just ordered a new 6870 card.
It is a replacement for the 5850, and has lower performance than the 5870.
My case is a mid-size case, and won't fit cards longer than 10.5".
Also, I want to be spending my money more so for the price/performance rather than top of the line performance. Therefore I figured I could buy a 6870 now, and then upgrade to a newer model when I need to. Also thinking of rehashing my whole build in a year or two if the new architectures are any good. I did just buy a new PC but I didn't spend overly much on it.
The Cayman will hopefully be better performers than the 5870's, and I don't see a reason as to why they wouldn't.
I just ordered a new 6870 card.
It is a replacement for the 5850, and has lower performance than the 5870.
My case is a mid-size case, and won't fit cards longer than 10.5".
Also, I want to be spending my money more so for the price/performance rather than top of the line performance. Therefore I figured I could buy a 6870 now, and then upgrade to a newer model when I need to. Also thinking of rehashing my whole build in a year or two if the new architectures are any good. I did just buy a new PC but I didn't spend overly much on it.
The Cayman will hopefully be better performers than the 5870's, and I don't see a reason as to why they wouldn't.
These are basically lower budget versions of the 5800 series cards. More or less positioned between the 5700 and 5800's. I kind of wonder if maybe it isn't more a correction to the blunder of putting DDR5 memory on a 128bit bus like they did on the 5700 series cards.
At any rate, they should perform very well for their price on FF14.
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At any rate, they should perform very well for their price on FF14.
Raist
Now that there's been some benchmarking, it looks like the 6870 performs as well, if not a bit better than the 5850. It costs about $60 less, and uses less power. Think this would be a good upgrade from my current 4850 512mb?
Its just a die shrink of the 5850 with faster ram. Other than that basically the same thing. Wouldn't hurt to upgrade, though you might want to wait until after the february refresh cycle coming up.
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I just purchased a Sapphire Radeon HD 6870, so I'll get back to you guys in a week or so when I get it installed. I'm going to run the 3DMark bench and the FFXIV bench on the old card (4850 512mb) and again with the new one (6870 1gb) to see just how much of an upgrade it is. I'm actually quite excited.
I have been running my 6870 for 2 days now, the HIS one, and I must say I am a happy man :).
WoW on Ultra settings, everything max including AA, and 1920x1200 res and I still get pretty good frame rates.
I haven't done any raids yet, as I have been focusing on leveling my shaman, but she is 79.5 so I will get some raids soon.
Apart from that waiting for my CoD:MW2 voucher so I can test that as well, but AFAIK that should run a lot smoother.
WoW on Ultra settings, everything max including AA, and 1920x1200 res and I still get pretty good frame rates.
I haven't done any raids yet, as I have been focusing on leveling my shaman, but she is 79.5 so I will get some raids soon.
Apart from that waiting for my CoD:MW2 voucher so I can test that as well, but AFAIK that should run a lot smoother.
Well, got the 6870 yesterday. It's a pretty big card, but it fit in my mid ATX case just barely.
Install was a breeze, downloaded drivers directly from AMD site. Benchmarks went up considerably.
BUT, the lower DVI port seems dead. I tried to hook up a second monitor, and nothin. No signal at all. Neither the Catalyst Control Center nor Windows 7 itself recognizes the second DVI port.
I found someone else with the problem but (last I checked) no solution there. Think this is a hardware issue? RMA? or is something else up?
Install was a breeze, downloaded drivers directly from AMD site. Benchmarks went up considerably.
BUT, the lower DVI port seems dead. I tried to hook up a second monitor, and nothin. No signal at all. Neither the Catalyst Control Center nor Windows 7 itself recognizes the second DVI port.
I found someone else with the problem but (last I checked) no solution there. Think this is a hardware issue? RMA? or is something else up?
Dunno, both DVI ports on my 6870 work fine, so it may be a hardware issue.
striveldt wrote:
New Cards
Radeon has released the new 6800 series, and I'm a little confused. I would assume that they are more powerful that the 5800 series, and yet they are priced at almost $100 cheaper.
Can someone who knows what the numbers mean take a look at the specs of the 6800 and 5800 cards and explain which is better, or why the price difference?
edit: Actually Tom's Hardware explains it pretty well. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Cayman line to come out.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 9:25am by striveldt
Radeon has released the new 6800 series, and I'm a little confused. I would assume that they are more powerful that the 5800 series, and yet they are priced at almost $100 cheaper.
Can someone who knows what the numbers mean take a look at the specs of the 6800 and 5800 cards and explain which is better, or why the price difference?
edit: Actually Tom's Hardware explains it pretty well. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Cayman line to come out.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 9:25am by striveldt
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the naming scheme for the new Radeon cards incredibly bothersome.
I mean, I know its the M.O. for the industry to have bizarre naming conventions but still...
I didn't find it as bothersome as so many seemed to. To me, while the "x800" being their high end single GPU rang true, the price point of the 5000-series was shifted quite a bit. The 6000-series, in a way, drops the cards more or less where the 3800 and 4800 series cards started at in terms of market segment.
Perhaps AMD felt it made more sense to just tack X2 onto the rarer/niche dual-GPU cards, as they did with the 3000 and 4000 series, instead of reserving x900 for just those.
Either way, time will tell - if they stick to x800 cards around the $200 price point, then the 5000-series becomes the oddity, doubly so considering the initial lack of (and then lackluster) offerings at ~$200. If they shuffle things around again, then it's more deserving of scrutiny.
Perhaps AMD felt it made more sense to just tack X2 onto the rarer/niche dual-GPU cards, as they did with the 3000 and 4000 series, instead of reserving x900 for just those.
Either way, time will tell - if they stick to x800 cards around the $200 price point, then the 5000-series becomes the oddity, doubly so considering the initial lack of (and then lackluster) offerings at ~$200. If they shuffle things around again, then it's more deserving of scrutiny.
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