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#1 Oct 17 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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Just got this in Abyssea-Tahrongi:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ziel_Charm
It has Acc +12, Eva -8

Where does it stand in terms of usefulness? I TP in Chiv Chain and WS (Drakes mostly) in Flame Gorget.

I'm replacing Chiv Chain with this right now, and want to try this instead of flame gorget for Drakes. Any thoughts?


Edited, Oct 17th 2010 5:20pm by RaideLeonn
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#2 Oct 17 2010 at 6:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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RaideLeonn wrote:
Just got this in Abyssea-Tahrongi:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ziel_Charm
It has Acc +12, Eva -8

Where does it stand in terms of usefulness? I TP in Chiv Chain and WS (Drakes mostly) in Flame Gorget.

I'm replacing Chiv Chain with this right now, and want to try this instead of flame gorget for Drakes. Any thoughts?


Definitely beats Chiv Chain for TP (unless Chiv Chain is the difference between 6-hit and 7-hit), but I really doubt it will beat Flame Gorget for WS.
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#3 Oct 17 2010 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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Gorgets bet the sh*t out of this for ws. You're trading .1FTP on 1st hit for 2 acc.
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#4 Oct 18 2010 at 1:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aye, Gorgets trump literally everything on WS unless the WS doesn't have any SC properties.

That thing beats Chiv and it beats PCC too.
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#5 Oct 18 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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All right on point. Just have to point out that love torque does rival gorgets for penta/drakes due to teh extra acc from dex catching up to gorgets acc and the atk+dex mod on penta and Atk+Dex crits on drakes vs 0.1 ftp kinda washes out. Love actually usually wins on penta because of the dex mod and 5hits dilutes teh .1 ftp on only 1st hit. Drakes is pretty much a wash and will tilt a hair in either direction based on the 5 dex getting you crits or not which is difficult to measure anyway.

Most torques loose to gorgets because torques have less acc and less damage boost. But love gets teh acc because we lucked out and got dex on it. Also dex influences penta directly, drakes indirectly for damage, and are multi hit making FTP less potent. All stacks up to make love torque in our particular case actually really sweet. (Even more so for Thf as we have even higher dex mods and even higher # of hit WS and when stacked with SA even MORE dex based POWA).

Edited, Oct 18th 2010 1:53pm by Banalaty
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People actually still use Penta?
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They're a lost clan of people that no one cares about. They're called Samurais.
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#8 Oct 18 2010 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the replies fellas! And clarifying the significance of gorgets. Not sure what I was smoking when I wanted to try it out for WS, must be my newly middle aged brain.

Interesting note about Love Torque though, I always thought it was even with gorget. I wonder if I should even bother getting one now.

Edited, Oct 18th 2010 5:57pm by RaideLeonn
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They're a lost clan of people that no one cares about. They're called Samurais.
Not that I actually give a sh*t any more, but if the SAM in question is using /WAR or /DRG then Sonic Thrust is available.

Just sayin'.
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