The official "rate my gear" threadFollow

My WS build needs a lot of work. Currently, I'm sitting on the following:

 
Thalassocrat --   Rose Strap   -- nothing --  Tiphia Sting 
Optical Hat  --   Chiv.Chain   -- Brutal  --    Assault 
 SH+1 / AJ   --      AF+1      --  Rajas  --   Woodsman 
  Amemet+1   -- Life / Warwolf --  Barone -- Rutter Sabatons

Some of my gear will carry across for my BLU, in particular the Rutters for Cannonball, so I'm a tad hesitant to look into doing, for example, Sky for N.Feet (heh, as if I can get into a Sky shell in the first place, the ones I've seen on Hades rarely run at EU-friendly times, and the ones I've tried that do tend to fall apart as soon as I touch them)

My most obvious slot to upgrade is the legs, to be fair, although short of Dusk Trousers and possibly Fourth Schoss there's not an awful lot that I can get readily. I can't even get a bad Nyzul group together, never mind a good one, so Askar is out (so's Drakesbane for that matter, and it's actually getting to the point where I'd pay a six-figure sum for someone to merc a Radiant Lance for me), and Aurum's out of reach due to my knowing only one person who does ZNM. Obviously, other bits will need a bit of work, but I leave that for you guys to dissect as appropriate.

Here's all of my Penta numbers from last night's lowmanned Temenos West that made me realise how much work needed doing. They're going backwards because my chat logs are in Notepad and we had another fellow using Penta, and because I'm a lazy sod, so it's easier for me to pick out my numbers. They made me go /NIN for it due to a sheer lack of people.



Average was 16943/22 = 770.1363636


For all of these, I was getting Minuet/March from our BRD, and I was eating Royal Sautee. I don't remember my exact Attack rating as I was drinking Belgian tripels by that point, but it was just shy of 550 in my TP gear (and I wasn't parsing so I don't know my hitrate). The optional stuff in the WS gear set at the top of the post was SH+1 and Warwolf.

I decided, possibly due to severely impaired judgment on my part, to start using Skewer and see how the numbers compared. Again, they're going backwards.



Average is 15841/24 = 660.0416667
Average, taking out that outlier, is 15640/23 = 680

Beyond not going on Temenos West when I'm drunk enough to think Skewer's a good idea (), what do you folks think I can do to improve my WS set?

Edited, Sep 8th 2009 6:23am by Lucinus

Been slowly working on upgrading my gear lately, this is my progress so far:

Main: Cletine
Sub: Pole Grip
Ammo: Tiphia Sting (all I can afford right now)
Head: TP in W. Turban, WS In Wyvern Helmet (Should I be using O Hat for WS?)
Body: TP Assault Jerkin, WS Nuevo Coselete (acc/crit)
Hands: Dusk Gloves
Rings: Woodsman Rings (saving for str rings for ws)
Earrings: fowling/minuet (saving for assault earring)
Legs: Dusk Trousers (Jumping in Barone/H. Jumping in wyrm brais)
Feet: Dusk Ledelsens
Back: Amemet +1
Waist: Life Belt
Neck: Chiv Chain

Currently doing ZNM runs, no luck on Aurum feet dropping though.

I have full polearm merits so I've started to phase out some acc in favor for str w/ penta, is this right or should I keep using acc gear on WS?

As far as Askar goes, more concerned about using my tags to climb nyzul for drakesbane than I am about getting the gear.

Thanks for the suggestions on WS pieces, I've been focused on getting my Dusk gear so I hadn't taken much thought into what I should be buying for penta.

You hit the nail on the head about my Nuevo though, it took me so long to find someone that would let a drg into the fight that I didn't want to have to redo the body once I got drakesbane unlocked.

As far as earrings go, You're saying I should do Fowling/Spike or Assault/Spike? I was thinking of doing Fowling/Assault after I save up some more gil for Assault.

Since I was wondering something around the same lines, if you had a Ethereal Earring, how would the list look like? I currently have Ethereal (I like to solo)and Coral (from my mnk).

I'm saving up for Brutal but in the mean time I was debating on which to upgrade first.

I was planning on Mercing Aurum legs off a ZNMLS, but now that I have Askar pants... I can't think of a situation I'd use them.

Am I right in thinking Askar is better than Aurum for everything? Aurum is -3 ATK, -1 ACC, -4 DEX (lol drakes crit), +4 str, +4 vit.

Ditto, and Askar for everything else.

Your WS set looks pretty solid. I'm assumign you've recently got sea/getting close? (As you mention being able to get brutal, and needing rajas).

If you're new to sea, top priority there should be a limbus shell. There's prolyl quite a lot of sky/limbus "endgame" shells that don't do the heavy stuff like kings etc. AF+1 legs are great. Aurum and askar legs are great aswell,

If not, as you have the gil for zahaks, I'm assuming you have a decent means of getting gil so you could invest in buying either sky pop items and finding a ls to merc them, or just buying the abj streight from a sky shell, for heca for your WS set.

As far as AH gear goes yours is good. Next stp is just endgame stuff.

Your Penta Thrust set is overkill on acc.

you know your set is fit, so stop showing it off incase i might cum myself.


















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hey, you didn't pass out. you went bum chum on thf forum...

I can't remember one camp otw to 75 where my acc was at the 95% hitrate cap. Mostly did birds, was in the 80s, used kabobs, ect. Lot of lv sync birds. That being said, any case where your acc isn't capped, sh is going to be the superior body. You'll be using it a lot more than peti

Aurum (if any ls on ur server sells), blitz ring, turban. Can cap acc on Gcolibri w/ both blitz and turban if you have the correct sh*t in the other slots.

edit: dont tp in ares,
6hit ect askar till aurum



Edited, Oct 9th 2009 3:48am by Veggeto

I just (barely) dinged 75 two nights ago, then spent last night unlocking Drakesbane. I have a few nice things that carried over from my BLU, but still have a far ways to go in shaping up my gear sets. Any advice is appreciated! My DRG's use will primarily be merits and soloing. (For LS events I'm locked in as BRD.) I'm Mithra. My merits thus far include 4Crit and 4STR (working on 5th). I'll only be able to put 4 merits into Polearm, and my ACP and MKE items are already spoken for on other jobs.

My main questions (see below) are about body piece, Drakesbane build and Jump.

TP
Cletine / Rose / --- / Tiphia
Walahra / Pcharm / Brutal / Assault
Askar / Homam / Iota / Rajas
Cuchie / Speed / Homam / Homam

Weapon: I plan on upgrading to a Fey Lance and switching to Pole Strap. Line for Vork is really long in my shell.
Ammo: Black Tathlum is out of my price range.
Head: I've been trying to get Askar helm to drop, but so far no luck. Unfortunately the likelihood of getting my LS to camp KV for Ace's is slim.
Neck: I'm up to lot next Love Torque that drops, whenever the LS goes to Sea again.
Body: We will probably do Tyger ZNM in a few months, but that is a ways off. Should I shoot for buying Zahak's in the meantime? (Or trying to buy Aurum body?)

Drakesbane (aka my really ugly set)
Cletine / Rose / --- / Tiphia
Voyager / Flame / Brutal / Hollow
Heca / NQ AF / Iota / Rajas
Cuchie / Warwolf / Conte / Heca

Head: Hopefully someday I can get Gnadbhod's Helm, but it won't be soon. Heca hat has an atrocious line since Odin won't put out.
Hands: I have N Hands Abj. Trying to HQ the synth before uncursing. SHould I use NQ AF or Spiked Finger Gauntlets in the meantime?
Rings: I have a Triumph, but I was thinking Iota would be better while my overall DEX is poor and my combat skill is not yet capped (or meritted)?
Legs: I'm up to lot next Heca legs and Ares legs that drop in Einherjar and Salvage. Are Conte fine to use until then? Should I try to get Askar? I do have Aurum legs too.
Feet: Working on HQing the Heca.

Jump
Cletine / Rose / --- / Tiphia
Voyager / PCharm / Brutal / Assault
Heca / SpikedFG / Iota / Rajas
Cuchie / Wyrm / Conte / NQ AF

High Jump I just change the feet to Heca.

Waist: Warwolf or Wyrm?
Legs: Conte or Aurum or something else entirely?
Feet: Limbus has dropped any DRG mats in a long time, but I will upgrade the feet.

Healing Breath Trigger
Cletine / Rose / --- / HappyEgg
NQ AF / Chanoix / BBEar / Cassie
Homam / RSE2 / BBRing / BQRing
Lieut / RSESash / NQ AF / Homam

Head: Will try to upgrade to +1
Body: Still working on trying to get the JSE to drop in Aquaducts.
Hands: Ostreager mitts if I'm not mistaken are only going to add about 2hp to Healing Breath? Mithra RSE2 hands have 60 HP, so I like what it does to trigger orange HP.
Legs: Will try to upgrade to +1

Righto, decided im gunna post my gear here. As some people say how gimp i am >.> Even though a good bit of my gear is under gold and red in the "faffys drg gear guide 2009" thread. So here goes, TP set up only.

Weapon: Fay Lance (dmg+3 str +2 dex+3)
Grip: Pole grip
Ammo: Bibiki seashell
Head: Walahra Turban
Neck: Chivarlous Chain
Earring 1/2: Bushinomimi/Coral earring (with str+1 aug)
Body: Zahaks Mail
Hands: Wyrm Finger Gauntlets
ring 1/2: Spinel ring/spinel ring (decided to get snipers rings so go with Zahaks as I lost 9 acc from Hydra Mail after getting Zahaks)
Back: Amement Mantle +1
Waist: Warwolf belt
Legs: Barone Cosciales
Feet: Askar Gambieras (on t3 ZNM so hopefully Aurum soon)


Also, no sea/limbus access.

Edited, Oct 30th 2009 3:50pm by Tuvae

WARNING, I WILL NOW MULTIPLE-POST SO THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED KNOW THAT I AM REPLYING TO EACH OF THEM SEPARATELY.

Askar's a good call. The rest looks very solid, you just need your Limbus shell to pay out now.

this looks solid. Brutal/Assault is best out of the earrings you've presented. For Askar vs. Zahak's, it's dependent on whether Askar saves you a swing before WS.



Head: use O.Hat, land those hits
Ears: Parse it between Brutal/Assault and Brutal/Fowling, although I don't think you'll notice much of a difference.
Body: You're set. Upgrades do exist but stick with what you have.
Hands: Again, you're set.
Rings: Sniper+1 is fine. Since you're unable to merit Polearm, the need for Accuracy is a lot clearer.
Back: Cuch is fine.
Waist: Tough one, consider parsing it.
Legs: I'm leaning toward Conte there.


END MULTIPLE POSTING.

Edited, Oct 31st 2009 7:53am by Lucinus

I haven't been playing Drg all that much lately, been leveling other jobs. Was wondering how my gear stacks up

TP Gear

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Pole grip
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell (Accidentally threw my Smart grenade :( )
Head: Askar (Have Ohat and Homam if I need either a little or a lot of acc)
Neck: PCC
Earrings: Brutal/Ethereal
Body: Ares (Also have Homam if I need the acc)
Hands: Dusk
Rings: Rajas/Ulthalum
Back: Amemet +1
Waist: Swift belt
Legs: Homam
Feet: Homam

For WS, I swap in AF+1 Hands, Ruby for the Ulthalum, Warwolf for Swift, and Barone legs and feet. I have the Abjs for Heca hands and feet, I've been too cheap/lazy to get them purified. Should I get the Heca hands, or stick with AF+1 hands? Is there anything else I should change?

pritty sure zahak's is better for TP than AJ. isn't 4-5 acc and 2+ fstr better than 10 attack?

Oh really? That sucks! Kinda. lol, ah well, its nice to have anyway. Hopefully the rest of my stuff is getting better. btw, quick question, for Drakesbane, should I keep snipers and woodsmans equiped or should i macro in ruby rings? Frankly Im thinking i should keep acc rings, which is what im doing currently.

Alright then, it's now morning. Let's see what I can do for you.


Main/Sub: fine
Ammo: get Tiphia or Smart Grenade. Bibili Seashell is pointless outside a Jump macro.
Head/Neck: fine
Ears: Like I said, invest in Fowling and Assault Earrings. I don't really like DRGs using Bushi outside of Wheeling Thrust (indeed, if you replace it with Fowling, you lose one STR for Acc+3, which as we know is an awesome trade)
Body: Like I said in my earlier post, go back to Zahak's. There was a numbers thread a while ago which put Zahak's a fair bit ahead of Askar body, which in turn is stacks better than Assault Jerkin. To be honest, even a regular Scorpion Harness is a strong contender with the orange rugby shirt -- AJ's not bad for TP if you don't have anything better, but even I've finally put the damn thing in storage.
Hands: Good, but I'd keep Wyrm for WS until you get something like Heca.
Rings: Better (by the way, what is your WS set like?)
Back: fine
Waist: LIFE BELT! I'm surprised I didn't notice that one earlier, Warwolf is for WS only.
Legs: Fine, but consider working on Dusk / Askar in the absence of Sea.
Feet: Fine until Aurum.

Where I've put "fine" I mean that what you've got is considered good so don't worry about it. There may in some cases be improvements, but either the upgrades are really small or they're quite tricky to get. For example, PCC is a big upgrade but it's expensive and not many people would complain too much if you don't have one. Ditto for Valkyrie's Fork, it's absolutely ace, but it comes from Odin so 'nuff said. On the other hand, upgrading from Amemet+1 to say Forager's is a difference of, well, STR+1.

Slight update to my previous post. Mostly looking for opinions regarding solo/duo on Tough or higher mobs. 8/8 Polearm merits and would be using /Blu as my preferred sub.

|TP|

Main: Cletine
Sub: Pole Grip
Ammo: Fenrir's Stone (Could use Tiphia sting, other suggestions?)
Head: Homam Zucchetto (Def to help boost Cocoon or haste from Turban?)
Neck: Peacock Charm
Ear1: Brutal Earring
Ear2: Ethereal Earring
Body: Askar Korazin
Hands: Dusk Gloves
Ring1: Ulthalam's Ring
Ring2: Rajas Ring
Back: Forager's Mantle
Waist: Swift Belt
Legs: Homam Cosciales
Feet: Homam Gambieras

Typically use Tav Tacos for the Def boost among other things. Acc is never an issue, if anything it's probably overkill for Tough's.

|WS|

Head: Champion's Galea (STR+4, DEX+4, WSacc+15, Crit dmg+2%)
Neck: Flame Gorget
Body: Nuevo Coselete (Acc+10, Crit rate +3)
Hands: Hecatomb mittens
Waist: Warwolf belt
Legs: Askar Dirs (looking to upgrade to Aurum if I have the chance)
Feet: Hecatomb leggings

Everything else remains the same.

You can quest a smart grenade on a mule and mail it to your main, despite it being ex. You need to be level 20 to do the quest though, so I'd recommend spending that time saving up gil for a tiphia rather than leveling your mule to 20.



Edited, Nov 8th 2009 3:41pm by bsphil

Flame Gorget>PCC>Chiv>Ritter for Drakesbane yes?

You are most likelly at a high Crit Tier for birds but your at about 88.8% Acc without Hasso/Songs Swapping the neck out for PCC or Flame Gorget will put you at

93.8% Hit rate on your WS which is a huge difference. Rajas/Iota combo will probably push you to 95% without Hasso. Not to mention the 3 DEX pushing your crit rate much further.

Taru Base DEX 68? you would have about +43 in DEX gear 111 total. Which would be a pretty great Crit Rate for Drakesbane while having a Capped acc and a high STR rating.




Keep that in mind though. Other then, that that is some top notch gear, myself I found that a STR ring will give me higher spikes when everything is ideal. But I like to stick with capped accuracy myself atleast on birds.

Edited, Nov 12th 2009 1:25pm by Skarwind

Edited, Nov 12th 2009 1:18pm by Skarwind

TP

Main: Thal
Sub: Pole Grip
Ammo: Tiph Sting
Head:Walahra Turban
Neck:Chiv chain
ER:Assault
ER:Fowling
Body:Zahak's
Hands:Dusk
Ring:Spinel>.<
Ring:Spinel>.<
Back:Forager's
Waist:Warwolf
Legs:Barone
Feet:Dusk

WS Penta

Main: Thal
Sub: Pole Grip
Ammo: Tiph Sting
Head: Wyvern Helm
Neck: Chiv chain
ER: Assault
ER: Fowling
Body: Zahak's
Hands: Dusk
Ring: Spinel>.<
Ring: Spinel>.<
Back: Forager's
Waist: Warwolf
Legs: Barone
Feet: Dusk

I need help>.< and yes i'm going to replace those dex rings with acc rings. Where should i start upgrading(besides rings) and in what order?

thx