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#152 May 13 2008 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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thought i'd throw my setup in here

hume male, only 1 polearm merit so far, i just dinged 75 a couple weeks ago. i'm usually /sam in parties.

weap - thalassocrat
sub - pole strap
ammo - tiphia
head - wyvern helm
neck - chiv chain
ears - fowling/assault
body - AJ
hands - tarasque +1/pallas
rings - 2x woodsman/2x ruby
back - amemet +1
waist - life/potent/warwolf/swordbelt +1
legs - barone
feet - amir/marine

i dont have much of a ws set yet. ive basically only been swapping in warwolf, pallas and now marine (since i got my amir) for wheeling thrust. for penta i have been wearing this setup. ive mostly been wearing dual ruby rings or 1 ruby, 1 woodsman depending on if i need more acc. the potent belt is on almost full time, but i have those other belts as options. i havent had much experience with merit parties yet, so i'll see how i do there pretty soon.

i've been thinking of saving for a brutal earring from buying anc. beastcoins, going for barbarossa's pants, more assault gear (pahl. head, body, etc)...


Very solid setup for a fresh 75. Good to see you keep on some ACC for penta since you only have 1 polearm merit. Once the merits get higher you can drop more acc for atk/str.

Only upgrades I see are getting a haste setup(at least 10% from gear) going once merits are done and the typical Rare/Ex stuff(p.gear, homam, ares's, and heca).

If you have WoTG then do the quest for the Smart Grenade. Hidden effect is 4atk. Be careful though, it can be thrown and you can't do the quest again from what I know. Threw mine the same day I got it.

Edited, May 13th 2008 3:57pm by Maxom
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#153 May 13 2008 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
its in my sig...

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#154 May 13 2008 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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itege, nice pick on the lance. I would change the grip to a pole strap though. For rings get some pure ACC ones and keep them on at all times, even for penta, until you get into merits. Woodsman's tend to be cheaper than Sniper's so you might want to go that route. Minus getting a +1 earring and Spiked Finger Gauntlets, everything else looks good for your level.
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#155 May 14 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I know it still needs a little work, but I think I have a good start:

Main: Thalassocrat
Sub: Pole Strap
Range: Tiphia Sting
Head: Walmart/Homam/Pahluwan/Wyvern Helm (askar soon, floor 100 farming this week yay!!)
Neck: Chivalrous Chain
Ear: Brutal/Fowling/Hollow (if I need ACC lol.. Assault I could save for but..)
Body: Askar/Heca/Pahluwan
Hands: Homam/Heca (also have Wyrmal and will have Askar when they drop)
Ring: Raja/Ulthalam's/Ruby/Sniper (saving for Flame... slowly)
Back: Amemet +1
Waist: Potent/Warwolf (swift eventually)
Legs: Askar/Pahluwan/Barone (have items for Drachen +1 for solo eventually)
Feet: Homam/Heca/Askar/Drachen

As you can see, I am very much into the ra/ex gear lol. This is mainly because I don't have a ton of time to play anymore. I log in to do sky/limbus/nyzul and that is about it now. So far I have been lucky enough to get items from Nyzul that help fund consumables and pay for Limbus (Thank you serket ring), but I only farm on rare occassions now if I have a little free time to get in game.

Thoughts, tips, etc? Legs are my real issue on DRG, I like the Pahluwan and actually sold Barone for a while as I was only using them for my jump macro anyway... I will have Homam soon-ish there as well, so that is TP.. more looking for a good WS piece that doesn't involve camping kings :(
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#156 May 14 2008 at 6:38 PM Rating: Default
the only reason i dont have sniper's/woodsman's is because i was told dex stacks well.

i macro in str rings for WSes and still hit 4/5-5/5 most of the time
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#157 May 15 2008 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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itege wrote:
the only reason i dont have sniper's/woodsman's is because i was told dex stacks well.

i macro in str rings for WSes and still hit 4/5-5/5 most of the time

4Dex may =3 Acc, however I'm still a firm beliver that 10Acc > 10Dex, if you're TPing in Thunder/Rajas, GTFO and change to Sniper's/Rajas. Thunder are like twice the price of Sniper's now.
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#158 May 16 2008 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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I guess rather than starting a thread, this is the place for it. Not so much "rate my gear, here it is" as rate my numbers.

At 75 I have acc+50 and atk+56 for my TP gear, not including food -- using Bison Steak (merit) or Couerl Sub (Dynamis and Assault), and not including STR and DEX from gear (not a significant contribution to acc). Those activities are what I mostly am doing these days. Is this too much accuracy? I'm fairly sure it's not too little.

I'm a mithra with currently 5 polearm merits. When I cap out polearm merits for another 5.4 +acc, that should perhaps allow me to drop some acc out of gear for more atk during TP?

I know the answer is to parse it, but I don't have one running yet(*). I've parsed very well in overall damage in a Dynamis parse, but accuracy wasn't included in the numbers. I do want to keep tuning my gear as merits increase, but I wondered if there's a good rule of thumb.

Edit: This is not a haste build. I may yet put together a haste build, but I don't want to go into it half-assed before it's fully ready.

(*)related question: does DirectParse run without either windower?

Edited, May 16th 2008 1:24pm by Laverda
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#159 May 16 2008 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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Grandlethal, if you got the money for it get Dusk Pants. They are the best WS pants we can get for penta that you can buy, no camping or farming for drops needed. Barone is fine too, nothing wrong with it in a WS build.

itege, DEX does give us ACC but those rings don't give as much as actual ACC rings do. If you're going for a crit build then those rings are fine but most people don't. Woods/Snipers(whatever is cheaper) is the way to go.
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#160 May 16 2008 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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Laverda actually, you are right at a perfect amount of +acc. Mithra drg, with 8/8 polearm merits needs +49 acc to hit 95% acc. you are at +50, so you are just barely at the cap. Keeping it there would be very good for your build.

Edit: when you get those last 3 merits.

Edited, May 16th 2008 2:21pm by Meldi
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#162 May 16 2008 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Meldi wrote:
Laverda actually, you are right at a perfect amount of +acc. Mithra drg, with 8/8 polearm merits needs +49 acc to hit 95% acc. you are at +50, so you are just barely at the cap. Keeping it there would be very good for your build.

Edit: when you get those last 3 merits.

Edited, May 16th 2008 2:21pm by Meldi


Keep in mind this only applies to Greater Colibri. It will vary from camp to camp and from event to event.


Laverda wrote:

I know the answer is to parse it, but I don't have one running yet(*)...

(*)related question: does DirectParse run without either windower?


Kparser written by Kinematics is a very good parser I use, and it can do parses via memory, or via reading the logs. This means you can have it parse from a completely different computer if you map the log files to a shared drive, which is how I do it. My main computer slows down too much with the memory parse, every 6 seconds or so, the game hangs for about .5 seconds. This is bad for my NIN, as I miss shadows going down, utsu timing, vokes, etc.

Edited, May 16th 2008 4:28pm by Souji
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#163 May 17 2008 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Rate my gear please, I'm at 61, items I swap for WS are in brackets. ^^


Weapon: Dark Mezraq
Grip: Pole Strap
Range: Tiphia Sting
Head: Walkure Mask
Neck: PCC
Ear1: Assault Earring
Ear2: Spike Earring
Body: Scorpion Harness (Akinji Peti)
Hands: Spiked Finger Gauntlets
Finger1: Woodsman Ring (Puissance Ring)
Finger2: Woodsman Ring (Puissance Ring)
Back: Amemet +1
Belt: Potent Belt
Leg: Republic Subligar
Feet: Tabin Boots +1 (Leaping Boots for Penta Modifier)

Any recommendations? I'm thinking of buying Victory Rings... also...

Spiked Finger Gauntlets or Pallas's Braclets for WS?

I'm planning to get the Hume Male RSE Boots at 63 as well.

All help is much appreciated. Thank You

#164 May 17 2008 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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archzai wrote:
Rate my gear please, I'm at 61, items I swap for WS are in brackets. ^^


Weapon: Dark Mezraq
Grip: Pole Strap
Range: Tiphia Sting
Head: Walkure Mask
Neck: PCC
Ear1: Assault Earring
Ear2: Spike Earring
Body: Scorpion Harness (Akinji Peti)
Hands: Spiked Finger Gauntlets
Finger1: Woodsman Ring (Puissance Ring)
Finger2: Woodsman Ring (Puissance Ring)
Back: Amemet +1
Belt: Potent Belt
Leg: Republic Subligar
Feet: Tabin Boots +1 (Leaping Boots for Penta Modifier)

Any recommendations? I'm thinking of buying Victory Rings... also...

Spiked Finger Gauntlets or Pallas's Braclets for WS?

I'm planning to get the Hume Male RSE Boots at 63 as well.

All help is much appreciated. Thank You



If using Penta, you should probably not do leaping, they're pretty close, but the acc will help more. At a mod of 20%, it takes 7(at 75, probably 6 at 61) DEX to add 1 base damage, so chances are high the DEX is only contributing ACC, and Tabin has more. For similar reasons, use Spike Finger Gauntlets for Penta, since Pally's will probably do less damage AND have less acc.
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#165 May 18 2008 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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Souji wrote:
Meldi wrote:
Laverda actually, you are right at a perfect amount of +acc. Mithra drg, with 8/8 polearm merits needs +49 acc to hit 95% acc. you are at +50, so you are just barely at the cap. Keeping it there would be very good for your build.

Edit: when you get those last 3 merits.

Edited, May 16th 2008 2:21pm by Meldi


Keep in mind this only applies to Greater Colibri. It will vary from camp to camp and from event to event.


Thanks Souji... I always forget that one important piece of information that is critical to the argument.
#166 May 23 2008 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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It's been a long time since I leveled DRG. I even put it in semi-retirement and sold some stuff to fund PUP. Now I'm playing both, and I need to re-gear. Any advice on what I can get / do without?

LV 65

Weapon: GKL
Grip: Mythril +1
Range: X
Ammo: Bibiki Shell
Head: Walkure Mask
Neck: Spike
Ear 1: Spike
Ear 2: Spike
Body: Jaridah
Hands: AF
Ring 1: Woodsman
Ring 2: Venerer
Back: Amemet NQ
Waist: Life Belt / Swordbelt +1
Pants: AF
Feet: Marine F

Total Bonuses (w/ Life Belt)
ACC: 32
ATK: 25
STR: 9

Parts I'm aware of.
Neck: Spike --> Chivalrous Chain
Pants: AF --> Feral Trousers

Anything fun, new, and exciting come out for gear or has it been the same old stuff from about a year ago?

Any help is appreciated, thanks!
#167 May 25 2008 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?183454

For my gear. I have plans for Mythril Grip +1 soon and Tabin Boots +1 at 59 and hopefully Bushido Cape at 60.

I'm 55 drg/sam as it says going mostly for acc atm but also accepting other ideas on how I can do it. Also at night time I use a vampire mask instead of the dandy specs. With gear + trait + hasso I come to +40 acc. add acc from dex ([61/4]x3=45.75) 85.75.

Edit: No merits yet, this is my highest job and I'm only unlocked to 60 right now.


Edited, May 25th 2008 10:15pm by SINisterWyvern
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SINisterWyvern wrote:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?183454

For my gear. I have plans for Mythril Grip +1 soon and Tabin Boots +1 at 59 and hopefully Bushido Cape at 60.

I'm 55 drg/sam as it says going mostly for acc atm but also accepting other ideas on how I can do it. Also at night time I use a vampire mask instead of the dandy specs. With gear + trait + hasso I come to +40 acc. add acc from dex ([61/4]x3=45.75) 85.75.

Edit: No merits yet, this is my highest job and I'm only unlocked to 60 right now.


Edited, May 25th 2008 10:15pm by SINisterWyvern


don't get bushido cape. wait 1 level for amemet+1. bushido cape is sh*t. "what about the zanshin???" zanshin is sh*t. "i need that 1 store tp!" no you don't.

pole strap at 60 is best. woodsman/sniper rings instead of worthless DEX rings. if you want to level into assault gear, make it chivalrous chain (you can assault for it if you'd rather do fun activities than save gil; in fact, assault is good for making gil, if you can find people do level capped assaults with you). upgrading your earrings would be nice. first get assault earring asap, and may as well keep second fang until you get to coral earrings.

everything else is good. if your ACC is good, you may want to consider complementing your crow hose with crow head and feet.

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AeriaAllslove,

pole strap, smart grenade (it's a quest; it's free), and the money upgrades you should already know you should get (2nd woodsman, HQ mantle, etc). as for pole strap, if you've been away awhile, it was probably expensive when you left. check the AH now, the price has gone way down (at least on phoenix).

Edited, May 26th 2008 1:27am by milich
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I was looking through some gear on FFXIclopedia when I found the Ecphoria Ring. Would this be a decent substitute for the 2nd Woodsniper? I don't think 1 less ACC is going to destroy my setup.

Also, should I get the Scorpion Harness, or stick with Jaridah and go for an Assault Jerkin from Ose in a few levels?
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Ecphoria is a fine ring.

If you can afford it, get SH until you get assault jerkin. Get an assault jerkin. Even after you have AJ, if you can afford it, keep SH for times where you're fighting evasive mobs. You can replace SH later with Hydra mail, Pahluwan body or homam corazza. All 4 make a fine acc body piece.
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#171 May 26 2008 at 2:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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don't get bushido cape.
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don't get bushido cape.
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don't get bushido cape.
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TY. Just I have to work on where to farm at. I've been in MMOs for 7 years so not fully lost but this is my highest job, just started in january. I know the best stuff and where I can upgrade if I just had that kinda gil flow, lol.

I'll look up those others ya listed and see how I can work 'em in. Thank you.

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I'll jump on the thread and ask my question about gears.

For a couple of times now, I've been trying to get Conte Cosciales for TP and WS. I'm farming the materials and I'm having a friend trying to synth them (0/12 so far).

Now, it was brought in a post earlier that Dusk pants is a good alternative to macro in for Penta Thrust. That made me think: Are Dusk trousers a better choice than the Conte Cosciales? I thought about it and I do not know which would be better TP wise and WS wise. One has more attack than the other, but one has a STR bonus and a TP jump bonus.

Thoughts?
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I'll jump on the thread and ask my question about gears.

For a couple of times now, I've been trying to get Conte Cosciales for TP and WS. I'm farming the materials and I'm having a friend trying to synth them (0/12 so far).

Now, it was brought in a post earlier that Dusk pants is a good alternative to macro in for Penta Thrust. That made me think: Are Dusk trousers a better choice than the Conte Cosciales? I thought about it and I do not know which would be better TP wise and WS wise. One has more attack than the other, but one has a STR bonus and a TP jump bonus.

Thoughts?


conte better for jumps (of course) and probably better for penta (definitely better for wheeling thrust). dusk slightly better for TPing and possibly for penta.

if you're interested as to why, the comparison is:

14ATT

vs

9ATT
3STR
2 enmity

so, 5ATT vs 3STR. 3STR has a 75% chance of raising your fSTR by 1. with thal, that's about a 1% increase. 5ATT may beat that, may not. if you start with, say, 500ATT, and fight something 6 levels above you with 322 DEF (like greater colibri), 5ATT is around a 1.2% increase. if your ATT starts lower, 5ATT does more. if it starts higher, the ATT does less. it does more vs higher DEF, higher level mobs. if your fSTR gets raised by conte's 3 STR, it will be a larger % increase if you use love halberd instead of one of the higher base dmg polearms.

i've heard the movement speed sh*t on dusk is pretty annoying (i don't know, i use homam), and the difference is close enough that you may want to just TP in conte once you get it made (until you get homam or barbarossa). if you're interested in where the numbers above come from, read the section called "background" in this post on the SAM forums.

Edited, May 26th 2008 9:17pm by milich
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That's pretty interesting. Best situation would probably be having the two and swap them to suit best the situation. But seeing that, I'll probably end up with the Conte Cosciales for TP and WS until I can get my hand on the Homam Cosciales. I'll keep the Conte for WS I guess since they're good for Wheeling AND Penta.

Thanks for that.
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I would like to add to what Milich said and state that if your Conte Cosciales dont increase your fSTR (or WSC on Penta/Wheeling), Dusk trousers will always be better for anything you are doing. The confusion is when it does increase fSTR and or WSC.
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