vs. SuzakuFollow

Well, two nights ago, I brought my SAM/NIN to Sky for the very first time. (Yes, /NIN--didn't know what the LS was going to do by the time I get there, so I went as /NIN since I'm most comfortable with /NIN. Likely will use /THF next time.)

Ended up doing one round of Suzaku, and I ... sucked.

In my defense, I've never brought any DD job to Sky before, but I've no excuse for doing a bad job twice in a row, right?

So, help me out: I had a miserable ~45% hit rate, with WS's averaging in the low 200's. (Or was it low 300's? Have to check the parser again. Unimpressive, either way.) While I did more WS damage than anyone else, the top RNGs and BLMs blew me away in total damage.

8 merits in Great Katana
5 Overwhelm
5 Meditate
0 STR merit (and not planning on any)
Mithra (if that makes a difference)

Sole Sushi

TP:
Hagun
Rose Strap
Lightning Bow
Askar Zucchetto
Peacock Charm
Brutal Earring
Fowling Earring
Haubergeon
Dusk Gloves
Ecphoria Ring
Blood Ring
Amemet Mantle +1
Swift Belt
Myochin Haidate +1
Fuma Kyahan

WS:
Snow/Shadow Gorget
Brutal Earring
Triumph Earring +1
Hachiman Domaru
Alkyoneus's Bracelets
Triumph Ring
Triumph Ring
Smilodon Mantle +1
Warwolf Belt
Rutter Sabatons

Wasn't getting buffs (beyond Protect/Shell 4--which I lost after KO and RR up), but don't think the RNGs were getting any buffs, either.

I think I can increase the accuracy a bit; Optical Hat, Potent Belt (or dig out my Life Belt). That probably wouldn't get me much past 55% hit rate, though. Don't really have a lot of gil to spend, either. (No thanks to the Triumph Rings--which are keepers since they're needed for PLD's fire resist set.)

What are good options for additional accuracy? Good performance/gil or performance/effort items wanted. (Already assuming I'd only get laugh at if I equip my Hacchonenbutsu. lol.) x_x Oh, I think I've a "WS +5 hits" to 100TP setup, which I'd like to keep if possible.

As for WS, I'm stumped; not sure how to add more STR in any reasonable manner. I assume Snow/Shadow Gorgets are better than Chivalrous Chain? If not, can switch that back in, I suppose. Can also do the add-on for the helmet, or put that Dryadic Abjuration: Head to use for a measly one more STR.

Why? ._. That 45% hit rate with Sole Sushi was already horrible enough, I don't think I want to lower it with a Marinara Pizza...

My bad, I didn't see the sushi bit, I assumed you used meat and forgot to mention it in the post.

They do get +48 acc on you /NIN and an additional +acc JA. /THF should help your WS dmg considerably though; Sub almost all your haste for acc if your hit rate is that abysmal and you're not getting other +haste buffs; yell at your mages to buff/debuff more; and finally amir boots are a relatively easy piece to pick up for some additional acc/atk.



also: no rajas?

Guess so. Never realized how weak SAM is compared to RNG in sky; they seem to do just fine without buffs.




I have Amir boots, actually; totally forgot it's sitting in the locker.



Sattva, and not changing. Heh.

Don't forget the piercing damage bonus on Suzy. That certainly helps RNGs. Wiki says its also strong to slashing (on the Roc family page), which I didn't know.

As mush as we typically say att does nothing for YGK, this is the perfect example where att would help. You should be using Gekko for gods over Y or K, as it gets the biggest att bonus (or largest ingnore defence%), and even if you had capped pDIF, you wouldn't see uber gekko numbers because of level correlation, but even from a level 90 Suzaku, with the right amount of att/STR you should be able to raise your Gekko's into the 500's w/o a Sneak Attack or a Double attack.

From the gear you listed (w/o buffs), I'd make these changes:

Hauby > haciman Domaru
Foragers > Smildon+1

Nets you an additional 50? att for your God Gekko's at the loss of 5STR.

Its your call.


Edited, Feb 19th 2010 5:34am by Sandmasterr

QFT

Suzy and Seiryu have huge EVA buffs. Kitty has pretty high EVA to start with.

Your issue is the lack of a BRD or COR on your pt, or a general lack of dispellers.

Well, we had a BRD for Suzaku, but he was in BLM or tank party, while I was in the "miscellaneous" party. I had to beg for Protect/Shell; no luck with Haste. (Or cures. lol.)

Think the RDMs got tired of my repeated requests for Dispel, so the last half or the last third of the fight they were actually paying attention to Feather Barrier, I think. The Bard's Finale was resisted at least once, though... that was weird. Suzaku was the last battle of the night, so maybe people were tired and inattentive.

Anyway, the Dispel would have helped the RNGs as much as my SAM, so it wouldn't improve my relative performance compared to them. (Not to say the RDMs/BRD should have been excused from not paying attention, of course.)




Edited, Feb 21st 2010 10:05am by IfritnoItazura

This sounds illogic. Worst "acc" then sub-decent SAM as a RNG? How is that possible?

Wish I still have my note around..
I think 1 of my friend who had 330~350 melee acc + sushi vs me with ~430~440 acc (with JT), I still have lower hit-rate than his.

Rangers get their acc ganked by the distance formula. Unlike attack small subtractions from accuracy can have a pretty significant impact on damage dealt.

Update SE did in 2006 proved there was a accuracy penalty for ranged attacks based on distance.



From
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Sharpshot

If anyone wants further proof they can dig around SE's website for the update's and find the actual note.

Personally I think the distance penalty is complete crap, no reason to have it when ranged attacks already do not stack with haste.

The reason was because RNGs used to melee while shooting, adding melee damage to their ranged damage. So SE made a cut off - either you melee decently or you have a decent ranged attack.