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I can totally see how not knowing the players names makes the numbers completely biased though, yuuuuuup.
I'm curious to know if you genuinely thinks that this was one of CBO's issue or if that quote was another maneuver to look better over an argument. It was pretty clear to me that CBO was questioning the integrity of the parser's data since you deliberately and admittedly edited it. Whether you had a good reason or not is not important at all for the subject of this discussion, and whether CBO (or anyone else, for that matter) is willing to understand that good reason or not is even less important.
Aside from very few exception cases, you'll most likely never find a fight in any group against any
mob Edit:HNM (to be more specific)
in which you could use the data from a parse to study the performance of all people involved. I find that sad, because it is precisely on the situational fights that the data actually matters. If it sounds wrong, remember that SAM has most of its offensive power wasted when fighting merit mobs, and yet these are the highest mobs we use to study (along with lv.0 mobs).
If you try to parse an HNM fight, more specifically a non-zerged one, you'll have to face issues such as:
- Did all my DDs have full buffs all time
- Which of our SAMs and RNGs were willing to break that Magma Hoplon and thus not having his DMG computed?
- Did our healers and supporters have time and remembered to wake up everyone in the party?
- How did that Paralize proc on each of the DDs?
- Did the DDs feel the need to stay focused on 100% of the fight?
- Did they use all abilities on CD?
- Did any have to pull back to recover from a nasty hit?
Then, if you try the same on a zerged fight, you still have issues to consider:
- Did that draw-in screwed my WS/JA zerg rotation?
- Did any of the DDs get hit by that cone stun move?
- How many of the DDs and which had that AoE absorbed by Utsusemi and thus didn't get a (stat down), (knockback), (snare effect)...
- Did they all have the chance to use all CDs?
- Were they all alive at the end?
I'm not sure of how many more very important questions I could list here before getting too boring, but the fact is that the fights where a comparative parse would matter are precisely the ones they can't help us with.
I too, like you, understand the limitations of theorycrafting. As you push your variables to extreme levels, your math becomes approximations of the reality. When you factor in risks (read list above) and human performance, you can pretty much toss all that theory in the garbage and accept what you see. The problem is really that neither the theory nor the parse will give you precise information regarding HNMs.
Edit #2: if you're really determined to parse an HNM fight to verify the consistence of each job combo's total dmg while being able to analyze it, I'll strongly suggest melee burning JoL. That's a fight that barely ever has a negative effect on the melees and where all the melees will affected the same way by his self-buffs. By personal experience, I'd say you have around 60%, maybe more, chance of success on a perfect fight, with some risk of turning aggro over the DDs.
If that doesn't happen, you have perfect data from a somewhat long fight to study on a high "variables" HNM. Edited, Nov 4th 2009 7:49am by sbrubles Edited, Nov 4th 2009 7:56am by sbrubles Edited, Nov 4th 2009 1:27pm by sbrubles