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#52 Nov 23 2004 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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is there a way to speed up a sams attacks...all though its a good job i feel that the strength is let down by the lack of speed
#53 Nov 25 2004 at 2:14 AM Rating: Default
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Hi my name is Pipodo and i just got sam a few days ago. I love the job always will and wont change it. it is way to fun.I wanna be a awsoem sam and i cant wait to be among the best. There is one problem. At lvl 34 u get gloves called kote. Though they used to be 200k in Titan AH's now they are 800k each. It is crazy. I worry that i will not be as good and it will affect the way i play in the future. If u have any comments or advice u can give me please do. By the way i loved ur guide it is extemly useful.
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#54 Nov 30 2004 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello all,

I'd like to hear some experienced Sams subbing war or rng share there perspective and give some advice on what they do to combat utsusemi in balista. Anyone?

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#55 Dec 06 2004 at 1:31 AM Rating: Default
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Pipodo, you are talking about Ochida's Kote (or similar, its 3am and I can't remember). A NM drops it but it is very heavily camped so you are better off just buying it. Also some other expensive pieces of standard (take that as you will) SAM equip that you may want to look up are: Sniper rings (x2), Haurbegoden(sp?) and Haurberk (sp again). Good luck.
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#56 Dec 23 2004 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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#57 Jan 01 2005 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
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hi , im a real newb ( i have ff11 in my room but dont have my modem so i nerver played ) i have in mind to be an elvaan samurai but what is the better job for elvaan??
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#58 Jan 11 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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There isn't a better job for Elvaan. Nor is there a worse. It depends on what you want to do in a party. Do you want to be the guy calling the shots, learning the ins and outs of the battle system and organizing the parties damage? Go with samurai. Do you like seeing big, pretty numbers fly up when you hit something? Go with ranger. Just want to bash the **** out of stuff? Go with monk. There's a LOT of different job choices for any player, and I recommend that you look fully into each of them.
Also, don't set your mind on samurai right off the bat. This job is HARD to play right. You have to have a lot of technical knowledge of the game to play it correctly, and if you don't put in the time to research and practice, you tend to suck. You have 30+ levels to gain before you finally make up your mind, so take some time and figure out what you really love doing in a party.
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#59 Jan 17 2005 at 6:13 PM Rating: Default
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Hello, I am a level 42 Samurai/ Warrior on Bismarck server.
I have noticed that the gear parties sometimes expect you to have, such as Sniper's Rings, and Ochioudo's Kote, are very expensive, and I really do no have that kind of gil.
I want to be a good Samurai, and not go out of a party with everyone thinking
"Wow that person's gear sucked", or "What a noob, they don't have good gear", etc.
Recently I have taken up mining, and am making a decent amount of money, but not enough to buy things such as the Ochioudo's Kote, or a pair of Sniper's rings.

My question is:
Can I be a good Samurai without having all the "Uber" gear?
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#60 Jan 18 2005 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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You can be a very good samurai without uber gear. Uber gear is just for maxing out the tools you have to work with. Better gear =/= better player, though. You can have Ochiudo's Kote, Jujitsu Gi, Sniper's Rings, Emperor's Hairpin, and everything else, and STILL use meditate incorrectly.
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#61 Jan 27 2005 at 6:51 AM Rating: Default
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Here goes my experience as Sam/War & Sam/Rng.
As Sam/War, u'll have way better dmg then sam/rng, IF you are a mellee only samurai. If you have good archery, however, using updated arrows and bows that dmg will be balanced as sam/rng. Yet, the big point of the sam is not his dmg, is his tp building rate and capacity to SC with any other mellee at any point of the fight. Fot that, you need higher accuracy, which can be obtained by a lvl 10 & 30 rng's job trait. Sam/thf will give you a Dex boost, but that combo isn't nearly as effective as the 2 mentioned b4. Personally, i would say that sam/rng is by far the best combo possible for sam. Some ppl like dealing dmg rater then setting SC tho, and they'll go for sam/war. Now remember. if you forget what Sam is really good for, pt leaders will invite the drk rather the you :D
#62 Jan 30 2005 at 2:07 AM Rating: Default
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i Started Sam and fell in love with it. For sub i a, still wondering about. I did Drg which i got laught at. Question thats hits me is a drg gets acc up job trait, does that mean they natrualy have a better acc so its gives Acc up if it is subed? Other reason i sub Drg was for the extra atttack from the job trait and Jump.
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#63 Feb 02 2005 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't ever sub /DRG for anything serious like EXP parties. There really is nothing better for us than /WAR and /THF.
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#64 Feb 12 2005 at 6:16 AM Rating: Default
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woa, this rocked.

congrats with a neat guide!

im planning to be a sam, so this will be really helpfull.

cheers!
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#65 Feb 17 2005 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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syphervalefor wrote:


A ranger at level 60 will have about +50 to +60 ranged accuracy, and 3 accuracy Up traits (possibly +10 rng acc each) and have access to the same abilities, namely sharpshot. I have seen said rangers miss sidewinder at 300% with sharpshot up.

The only reason you sub ranger in parties:

More damage when pulling
Accuracy bonus I
Accuracy bonus II
Barrage
Sharpshot- allows you to switch off to ranged attacks for a short bit, gain more TP and do significantly more damage.


Well as a sam/rng for pretty much all my sam career pre HNM, I can say, that once I hit 57 and got sidewinder, I chose not to xp without my brd if I could help it. prelude is a sam/rng best friend as well as agi etude's. my hit ratio at 75 is about 80% or higher at 100 tp. The main reason I dont use it, is that it doest really tp well, but it is good to have when you want to either a) grab hate fast when the tank dies, and you want to save your mages, or b) deliver a few quick finishing blows in the same case. In the second case, I would always recommend doing a barrage/sharpshot to prepare, sidewinder>ranged attack(which should end up around 100 tp again if done well)>sidewinder>mdeitate(possibly switching the last two if you have af helm and even af2 gloves)>sidewinder>?possible last one if you used af2 gloves.
#66 Mar 14 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Default
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Very Nice Post i,m Glad to know some of the Info...

Well to comment.. on MAges... SUBs... They are Needed..
I always use WHM sub.. for Mission.. or Quest i,m helping with One for Raise & other for Sneak & invisble...


I wish i had Lved my BLM but just haven,t gotten around to it since i Main Farm & wait & pray for Invite with Flag UP^^

I,m a Lv 57 SAM Sub a Lv 40 Rng i Use for BCNM40

& i Love SUBbing Rng..

Though i have been Removed.. from a PT for not Doing enough Damge Even though i Still Completed the SCs
As my JOb requires me to do...

But i enjoyed your Post.. & thank you kindly...


PS. SAM SUBing RDM & DRG = MAD FUN :D
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#67 Mar 19 2005 at 1:12 PM Rating: Default
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All I can say is this to SAMs, get a fricking RNG everytime!

When I did RNG, I found SAM to be my most favorite friend in the world. The TP buildup and weapon skills of the 2 jobs complement each other so well that the damage is unbeliveable.

Best way to put it, SAMs make RNGs look even better, and RNGs make SAMs look like the best DDs in the game, lol.
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#68 Mar 24 2005 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
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Great Post, Rate Up
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#69 Mar 25 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
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I just cant understand those skillchain charts. There is just arrows evrywhere. I need help on using the charts.

P.S. Rate up!!!
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#70 Mar 25 2005 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Though, used often in HNM battles, as the only weapon skill that can do any major amount of damage is Spirits Within.


I know that statement was made in regard to sam/nin combo and by no means am I attempting to punch holes in your guide...I just wanted to clarify that spirits is not the only ws that does major damage on HNM's or GHNM's for that matter.

On Ada/Aspid yes, in my opinion spirits > all. But on other's SATA Gekko or Kasha for me personally does way more damage than my spirits ever did. For Kirin I do sam/rng because sidewinder does effective damage.

The reason I found this important to state is that my very first sky/hnm ls believed that Spirits Within > All. This left me (in alot of cases) standing to the side swapped in once tp reached 300 to do spirits only then disband and wait to do it again. Imagine lvling a job to 75 to feel as though thats your only end game function. So again just wanted to point out that with other subs..end game...there are other ws you can do that deal greater damage than spirits on HNM and GHNM.
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#71 Apr 21 2005 at 4:47 AM Rating: Default
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I am useing my BST as sub what is your take on that.
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#72 Apr 21 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Default
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first post, a friend told me about this, very nice guide i'll be sure to look it up if i've got any questions Rate Up
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#73 Apr 26 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
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very nice thread but 2 things concern me.

1) sam is never boring ever. ive had to save parties as an emergency tank. killed mobs that were too strong all by myself. in other words theyre far from uninteresting.

2) sam are just as good a DD as any other job. for instance a mnk, which we all know rock, hits lets say 30 dmg per hit and they do it more consistantly. but sam is hitting over 150 fairly consistantly. to me that makes sam just as good a DD. then add in Tp rate, skillchain ability, meditate, and broad weapon use. cant be reckoned with.

but i digress. all jobs given the player are very affective at what they do.

again i compliment you. very nice work.
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#74 May 06 2005 at 12:52 AM Rating: Default
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well i have scowerd he net nd im looking for an equip guide...can someone help?
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#75 May 09 2005 at 3:47 PM Rating: Default
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youre in the right place.
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#76 May 12 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
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#77 May 13 2005 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
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After leveling up Drk to level 50 i decided to try sam after always seeing sam in pt usually averaging out more damage then me because of there ability to do 3-4 ws a battle where i would be doing only 1 and 2 if i was lucky. Even with my drk pimped out with acc gear. I have to say sam is awsome they do a lot of damage yet can get away without getting hate like rng. Any job that can self skillchain has to have something going for it. {Samurai}{Power} ^^
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Could you add which Stats would affect certain WS for GK, I would like to know which exactly I should use equip swaps for. I read in another topic post where Tachi: Yukikaze is affected by STR. It would be nice to have this information confirmed in the 101 guide.
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#79 Jun 19 2005 at 9:05 PM Rating: Default
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Maybe a mage sub wouldnt be totally worthless think of making your own SC and topping it off with your own MB something to think about.....

Edited, Sun Jun 19 22:13:25 2005 by Arkaaa
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#80 Jun 23 2005 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe a mage sub wouldnt be totally worthless think of making your own SC and topping it off with your own MB something to think about....


think about for like 2 seconds and then toss the idea :>

1) our int is lackluster, we would do almost no dmg
2) we wouldnt get the higher lv magic spells
3) our mp would really suck and we wouldnt get much off anyway
4) if ur really set on making your own MB's sub drk.. at least u still get atk+ on that ._.
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#81 Jul 13 2005 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
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This for the last person asking what to sub samurai with:

pre 60 ---> warrior or thief, prolly warrior thats what I did
post 60 ---> thief or ranger, I have heard warrior class falls off as a good sub

One thing I have noticed is that the origional post said that you shoud use meat type food with samurai and rice balls with the AF gloves. From personal experience I used meatkabobs under level 25 to improve my damage, after which i then started to use shushi products to improve my accuracy (which had begun to trail off), and the only time I ever use rice balls in any sort is when I am farming mobs or killing off placeholders to regen a NM. I guess this is prolly different from other Samurai's given their race but I have found that if you don't use Sushi at higher levels with an Elvaan samurai your going to whiff a ton.
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#82 Jul 14 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
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Great Info ^_^b
Im A LVL 70 Sam On Sylph Server.

Mind, I don't Excactly Agree 100% For being there Just to SC, But that's not but ones point of view.

Also I've seen One person on our server Interestin Setup.
Sam/Drk High Accu and Attack Gear.

Might Try that out for laughs. :/

You know it took me 60 **** Lvls to finnaly Figure out That Meditaite can be utilized to make 3 WS o.o;;

Felt so Stupid. -.-

Anywho Rate Up Peope Good Post.

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#83 Jul 30 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
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at 30 i would suggest thf. but befor that probobly war. great post man. real long though lol. took me like 30 minutes to read all the posts >.< :P
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#84 Aug 09 2005 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Very imformative thread! Thank you. I am a 72RNG, and after Sp'ing with a SAM for 20 lvls I have to admit this job is no way boring, we SC'd often and quite effectively.Needless to say my Sam is now 36. Again thank you for the info!
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#85 Aug 17 2005 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
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lol man, taru 2nd in DEX? never... are lower as elvaan... and galka have same dex as hume -.-
#86 Sep 22 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Default
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Hello. I'm coming back to ffxi (rdm30/whm15/blm8/smn8) and I was wanting to do something new. So I thought sam looks fun. I was sam5 but war was only 2 and I didn't want to lvl it. Is sam a good idea to lvl? Is it also fun[Blue][/Blue]
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#87 Sep 26 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Default
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DEX doesnt increase how fast your hits land, AGI does. he may have somehow had higher AGI than you did, but i could be wrong... DEX is accuracy, AGI is ranged accuracy, speed of hits and evasion.
#88 Oct 08 2005 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm fairly certain that the only things that affect your speed of attack with Great Katana is the weapon delay on the GKT and any Haste gear/spells you've got on ya. AGI does -not- affect how quickly you attack.
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#89 Oct 13 2005 at 5:14 PM Rating: Default
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I'm curious, I thought that STR was what added to your max damage limit and attack was what increased your avg hit damage.

But this is -great-, I came hoping to find a skill chain chart and the link to Aden's was perfect. Good stuff bud.
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#90 Oct 17 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
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yes...sam/war or sam/thf?

it seems that sam/thf wouldnt be as useful pre-60...does anyone go sam/thf all the way?
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#91 Oct 24 2005 at 2:47 AM Rating: Default
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Ranger sub just seem natural for samurai. I have found that samurai have more access to +ranged accuracy equipment before just plain +accuracy. Plus, you can Sharpshot for even more +ranged acc. This is mostly pre-30. Ranger sub also helps with skillchains and with finding prey quickly.
#92 Nov 17 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
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Hey I need some advice. I am a taru noobie and i want to be a SAM but i started out as BLM. now i have my sub job and I'm so messed up on what job I should level i think i might just quit. I have 7 THF, 17 BLM, 6 RDM, and 1 everything else. I should level THF next right? but then I have to level WAR, and I'm a Taru so I will get next to 0 inv when I get to Valcrum again right? so what should i do?

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#93 Jan 16 2006 at 6:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Great guide! Thanks for putting this together, It has helped me alot playing SAM.

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Please note, that +1 ACC is not better then +1 DEX. DEX affects how many critical hits you get. The same goes for STR/ATK, STR increases your damage per hit, where as attack raises your max damage cap.


Sorry for pointing this out, but I do not want people getting the wrong idea, 1 Acc is better than 1 DEX (Most of the time, Unless stacked) as it takes around 5~ DEX for 1% Crit rate. Acc will help you to hit alot more.
Second, "STR increases your damage per hit, where as attack raises your max damage cap."
This is wrong, it is the other way round; STR increases your damage cap, Attack increases your average damage per hit.

Thanks again for the guide~
#94 Feb 10 2006 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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how does a ranger gain more TP than a samurai??
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#95 Feb 13 2006 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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This may sound like a stupid question, but I play THF main and i know to do more damage with sneak attack you load up on dex. My next job im going to lvl is SAM and i was wondering if its the same principle. The more DEX you have the more damage your SA will do.

The only reason I ask is that I thought i read somewhere that adding dex on a THF sub doesnt do anything. Is this right?
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#97 May 07 2006 at 8:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel so bad.. my first post in Alla is on my fiance's profile. XD

Anyway, I play an Elvaan SAM/48 on Asura named Deidle. I have heard all the talk about subbing thf and having good dex. I'm not convinced that this is right. I don't want to say i'm right but here is my experience. I have a lot of acc and att gear and some str. I use sole sushi and have subbed war from the begining. Using berserk makes my att skyrocket. I have yet to see most jobs out dmg me(mages and their spells being the exception), I hardly ever miss... except when those **** beetles use there eva. boost. Throw in the tp build and WS and Sam becomes a DD machine. I've had ls mates who went the dex rout and complained that they didn't feel like they were doing enough. I promptly told them to go Acc/Att/Str.

I myself would not sub thf, thats just me. But I do beleive that thf is my best friend. Tachi:Enpi + SATA viperbite= complete pwnage.

As far as rng as a sub. I hardly ever get a chance to use a ranged attack. Although I have had to be the puller a few times but I don't think rng would help that much. I alos lvl rng and know how often my ranged WS's miss. I wouldn't dream or wasting a sam's tp on a ranged ws.

Thats just my opinion from my experiences. But I do beleive ultimatley it comes down to the player. The game has its set programming but if you don't know what you are doing none of it matters.

p.s.- I realize i'm only lvl 48 and things may change. Also, thanks for the guide I did get some usefull tips from it.
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#98 May 07 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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This helped me alot thanks^^
#99 May 07 2006 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Great job! This guide answered all my questions. Thank you!
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Don't ever sub /DRG for anything serious like EXP parties. There really is nothing better for us than /WAR and /THF.


SAM/DRG 20-29 FTW. /WAR and /THF don't have anything to offer before SAM30. Berzerk and SA both become available at SAM30. SAM/DRG gets Jump and Attack Bonus I at 20, making it the best sub-job 20-29. But it is the best sub-job ONLY 20-29.

SAM/WAR 1-19 and 30-59. /WAR is the best sub before 20, and 30-59 thanks to Berzerk

SAM/THF 60+. SATA Tachi: Gekko FTW! I staticed with a SAM/THF from 60-75, and his DMG output was insane. SAM specializes on TP gain. /THF amplifies the return on the TP gain by ensuring a critical hit and guaranteed hit on a WS, and allows you to plant the nasty DMG on the Tank with a proficient WS partner.
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#101 Jun 05 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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i just thought about something stu...err. . . odd. . .
SAM/BLU? :3 i dunno why, but i sub blu anytime i'm soloing. like farming, questing, etc. . . and so like i'm wondering. . . besides for the solo reasons, would blu be a good sub for sam? would blu be a good sub for ANY JOB? just wondering, i think it'd make low lvl pt's fun i <3 wild oats^^;;; especially since it makes me do more dmg in 1 hit, and more in a ws :D but anyway. . . oo oo also, sam/pup :D i dunno. . . {/random}. . .

yeah, i'm a L11 SAM just so you know. . . Yseult...
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