Quote:
Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted:
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
i know they havent tested it yet, but this looks bad. real bad.
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nin/drk officially dead?Follow
i know they havent tested it yet, but this looks bad. real bad.
yea and the enmity lost per hit when they changed Utsusemi was the end of ninja tanking too.
Please just shush until people can test this stuff. You are just fear mongering when you have no real idea of what is going on.
Please just shush until people can test this stuff. You are just fear mongering when you have no real idea of what is going on.
75BLM 75PLD 75RDM 75WAR 75MNK 75NIN 75THF 75SAM 75BRD 75RNG 75DRK 75SMN, 75DRG 75DNC 75WHM 75COR 75BST 75BLU 75PUP 75SCH - # of summoner burns = 0
http://sizedd.freeforums.org/
Quote a few months before the mass salvage banning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0O8qb58bHY
http://sizedd.freeforums.org/
Quote a few months before the mass salvage banning:
couerlmaster wrote:
And stfu with the banstick, this is hardly traceable and so widespread throughout the EG community there's nothing SE can do w/o banning half the EG community on every server
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0O8qb58bHY
Direct Nerf to RDM tanking, indirect nerf to NIN/DRK tanking.
Good job SE! You just managed to kill the other two tanks on the game. I'm sure you're happy making PLD the #1 and only endgame tank now.
Oh wait, SE in all his wisdom has brought us WAR tanks! We are saved! (not).
Good job SE! You just managed to kill the other two tanks on the game. I'm sure you're happy making PLD the #1 and only endgame tank now.
Oh wait, SE in all his wisdom has brought us WAR tanks! We are saved! (not).
It is better wither to be silent, or to say things of more value than silence. Sooner throw a pearl at hazard than an idle or useless word; and do not say a little in many words, but a great deal in a few.
- Pythagoras
- Pythagoras
At first I read
The white magic spell "Aquaveil" will now guard against spell interruption a set number of times.
Thinking that would be awesome for tanking as NIN/RDM for preventing those O-shi ichi getting interrupted moments. Then I read...
Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted:
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
.... boo -.-
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(posted on main forum too)
The white magic spell "Aquaveil" will now guard against spell interruption a set number of times.
Thinking that would be awesome for tanking as NIN/RDM for preventing those O-shi ichi getting interrupted moments. Then I read...
Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted:
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
.... boo -.-
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(posted on main forum too)
75 THF, 75 SAM, 75 NIN, 75 BLM, 75 BRD, 73 SMN, 72 RNG, 70 COR
Sylph
Sylph
/sigh.... sad day... sad day....
[99] Smithing [60] Clothcraft [60] Woodworking [60] Leathercraft
[60] Alchemy [60] Cooking [60] Bonecraft [61] Goldsmithing [50] Synergy
[60] Alchemy [60] Cooking [60] Bonecraft [61] Goldsmithing [50] Synergy
#6Xellith,
Posted: Jun 21 2010 at 2:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG THEY MADE IT SO THAT WHEN NIN LOSES A SHADOW WE LOSE SOME HATE!!!
I really doubt SE would INCREASE the enmity of the spells and even if they did it wasn't needed. Sounds like the Mazurka update a few years ago (Though bard tank did seem kinda wrong). Maybe the enmity change won't effect us as much as I'm afraid it will, but if they do how do you plan on tanking anything worthwhile? Unless we get new hate holding ja's later or our new spell helps in some way we'll be stuck with /war, provoke, trick attacks, and ninjitsu and you'd be better off with a PLD even more so than now. Hopefully something we get 80-99 will actually be useful.
Edited, Jun 21st 2010 3:36pm by Hiroku
Edited, Jun 21st 2010 3:36pm by Hiroku
75 THF, 75 SAM, 75 NIN, 75 BLM, 75 BRD, 73 SMN, 72 RNG, 70 COR
Sylph
Sylph
Meh, probably just equate to us running an extra cycle of spells, I'm not sweating it. And for the record, this will have a bigger effect on NIN/RDM than NIN/DRK as Stun isn't being adjusted.
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If you havent seen it yet, there is a hell of alot of new gear with more enmity on it than we are currently able to use. Also, as stated previously, STOP fear mongering and wait till testing is done before you assume nin/rdm or nin/drk is @#%^ed.
Sir CorLeonisX: "Nah, SE will just declare it an exploit to fight him with jobs over 75 since it's not the "proper" way to kill it, and just ban us all instead."
Deadonarrival: "Dart as usual, your post is made of FAIL."
Deadonarrival: "Dart as usual, your post is made of FAIL."
Xellith wrote:
wait for information THEN bitch. For all you know they are raising the enmity since people are going to get new abilities and they want to make it HARDER for mages...
Kaeko wrote:
SE was lazy. All 6 are now 1CE/300VE
Happy Version Update guys lol
Happy Version Update guys lol
Can we continue bitching now that we are 100% sure instead of 99.9% sure?
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- Pythagoras
- Pythagoras
Quote:
Can we continue bitching now that we are 100% sure instead of 99.9% sure?
Yes. I'll start.
NIN/DRK nerfed
new NIN spell is epic fail
new NIN JA is epic fail
Very, very depressing. NIN has been my favorite job for a long time, but I may be switching to DNC main after this update.
Lothiriel on Midgardsormr
90RNG/90NIN/75DRK/90BLM/90SAM/75DNC
Bonecraft 103 (like anyone cares anymore)
90RNG/90NIN/75DRK/90BLM/90SAM/75DNC
Bonecraft 103 (like anyone cares anymore)
iknoweverything wrote:
Quote:
Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted:
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind
i know they havent tested it yet, but this looks bad. real bad.
Relax.
NIN get Mag. Burst Bonus at level 80 to do more damage
:o
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Stun is still good enmity, and Hojo, Kurayami, and Aspir remain untouched enmity-wise. Still hurts a lot to lose Sleep's CE, and Bind was an excellent additional VE source. Bind's VE was a little more than halved.
Has anyone tried to NIN/DRK tank anything since update and has it greatly impacted effectiveness? I can see it slowing down how quickly you can build hate at the start of fights, but I could still see it being feasible.
Has anyone tried to NIN/DRK tank anything since update and has it greatly impacted effectiveness? I can see it slowing down how quickly you can build hate at the start of fights, but I could still see it being feasible.
It's OK folks, Blank Gaze, learn it, love it. 320 CE, 10 second recast, 25 MP. I had a feeling before the update NIN/BLU was going to be something that we should be looking at, now I'm convinced it is. Along with Blank Gaze, there are other high spike spells (longer recast times though), Sheep Song (now), Soporific (now), MP Drainkiss (level 84), Stinking Gas (level 88) and Geist Wall (level 92). I'll admit I don't know a lot about Blue Mage, but it looks promising...
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Not dead. Not at all, I just tanked Omega today nin/drk and it was the same, maybe even easier due to me being lvl 76. My setup for the most part (not including gear swaps for ENM+, haste, etc) was:
main: hades sainti
ranged: ungur
head: arhat's +1
neck: eva torque
ear1: ethereal
ear2: colossus's earring
body: arhat's +1
hands: seiryu's kote
ring1: BQ ring
ring2: mermaid's ring
back: colossus's mantle
waist: warwolf
legs: ASA pants pdt-4 movement+8
feet: yasha/fuma/ninja kyahan+1
No death, nothing different. Everyone need's to stop freaking. NIN is so versatile and awesome!
main: hades sainti
ranged: ungur
head: arhat's +1
neck: eva torque
ear1: ethereal
ear2: colossus's earring
body: arhat's +1
hands: seiryu's kote
ring1: BQ ring
ring2: mermaid's ring
back: colossus's mantle
waist: warwolf
legs: ASA pants pdt-4 movement+8
feet: yasha/fuma/ninja kyahan+1
No death, nothing different. Everyone need's to stop freaking. NIN is so versatile and awesome!
Thanks Whirbomb, that is good news I suppose. I figured the loss of CE from Sleep would be a pretty huge hit.
Lothiriel on Midgardsormr
90RNG/90NIN/75DRK/90BLM/90SAM/75DNC
Bonecraft 103 (like anyone cares anymore)
90RNG/90NIN/75DRK/90BLM/90SAM/75DNC
Bonecraft 103 (like anyone cares anymore)
I'm not to worried. When I tank /drk, I pretty much spammed poison/bind between stun's, and its always been enough. The bind nerf sucks, but we're probably still stronger than pre-yonin.
90RDM/90BLM/90WHM/90NIN/90MNK
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