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#1 Jul 11 2012 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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I'm probably going to be posting in this forum quite a lot for questions about new gear. So, I figured I'd make a thread and that way returning nubs can see this and go "Oh hey, I'll ask my question there".


So, yes. I got a Ganesha's Mask drop today. Is this worth using over Walmart Turban? My gut tells me yes, except perhaps in high haste situations. Which don't exist any more. Apparently.

So yeah, if there's a thread about this already my bad, but I'm sleepy.
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#2 Jul 12 2012 at 1:14 AM Rating: Excellent
Given its gear options as far as Haste goes, Monk is one of the only jobs that can reliably pull off using Ganesha's Mask for TP. The current best TP gear sets for Mnk utilize that, Thaumas Coat, Black Belt, and Empyrean +2 legs to reach capped gear haste, which opens up the hands for gear options like Melee Gloves +2.

Until you can cap out your gear haste though, Walahra will be the better option, but you'll want to hold onto the mask for when you can gear it out better.
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#3 Jul 12 2012 at 2:21 AM Rating: Good
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I had a feeling that was the case. I'm not touching Monk until I get my Black Belt finished. It's been on hold for too damned long!

I shall put the mask on mothballs until I can get myself a NeoNyzul static.

Again, thanks.

edit: Holy crap Melee Gloves +2 are really nice.

Edited, Jul 12th 2012 4:24am by Nilatai
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Okay, I figure I'll be getting my Black Belt next week, so it's probably time to get a "what to aim for post 75" list on the go.

Here's what I'll be working with when I level past 75:

Head - Walahra Turban
main - Destroyers";
ammo - Tiphia Sting
neck - Faith Torque
ear1 - Brutal Earring
ear2 - Hollow Earring
Body - Shura Togi
hands - Bandomusha Kote
ring1 - Rajas Ring
ring2 - Sniper's Ring
back - Amemet Mantle +1
waist - Black Belt
legs - Byakko's Haidate
feet - Fuma Sune-Ate

Now I've spied a few bits and pieces I'd like to go for, but I'd like to get some input to see if there's anything major I have missed.

Thanks.
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#5 Jul 15 2012 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
For the most part, that's an okay set at starting out, and you can keep using that till you can start replacing pieces with Empyrean +1/2. Besides that, you'll want equipment such as Rancor Collar (you'll want to cap your Tonberry hate to maximize the usefulness of this), Epona's Ring, Atheling Mantle, Ghillie Earring +1, Thew Bomblet, etc.

As for weapons, unless you decide to take the time to make some form of Magian weapon, your weapon progression should look something like this.

Destroyers -> Heafon Knuckles (85) -> Taurine Cesti (89) -> Brawny Adargas (99)

There are some interim/alternative ones you might come across, such as Metasoma Katars at 88, that you might find easier/more useful for you, and there are some other non-Magian ones at the end alongside the Brawny Adargas that are better, such as the Girru, but the progression of those four are a decent direction you wanna go with your weapon upgrades.
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#6 Jul 15 2012 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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Just wondering about the Rancor Collar. Is there any maths comparing Faith Torque to it? I'd imagine if Faith raises Base Damage by 1 it would win out over the Crit+5% from the collar?

That weapon progression looks ok to me. I should be able to get ls people to help kill the necessary NMs.

I'll have to look into doing Legion for the Girru, those look amazing for tanking...

Thanks again Vlor, not sure where everyone else is these days! Smiley: grin
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#7 Jul 15 2012 at 7:22 PM Rating: Excellent
From what I recall, the only way that Faith Torque comes out ahead of Rancor is with full h2h merits and the new Bruiser's Earring with it. Without those merits, it'll fall behind enough to where Rancor Collar + Ghillie Earring +1 is better.
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#8 Jul 16 2012 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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In which case I'll stick with Faith. Monk is my main job, thus the full merits. That earring is like 10k on my server.

Awesome, I guess I'm set there then. I mean, I still need to get a Rancor Collar for WAR and NIN so it's no problem. I just like my Faith Torque Smiley: grin

Edited, Jul 16th 2012 5:22am by Nilatai
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#9 Jul 16 2012 at 4:49 AM Rating: Good
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At 99 with full merits, Tantra+2, BB, Epona, Rajas, and Brutal, I'm finding Rancor constantly 3 dps ahead of Faith with either earring, little more in Abyssea or fodder. Faith+Bruiser will always raise base DMG by 1. Bruiser's and Ghillie's are on par with each other, either neck equipped, with Ghillie's ahead by less than 1 DPS. Maybe someone else can cook Kine's xls different.

Still, I like Faith for it's lack of Damage Taken +10%, considering when I'm on MNK, I'm usually tanking, a majority of which is blood tanking. I use Rancor for Victory Smite since it's better than Gorget on all but the hardest NMs outside Abyssea.
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#10 Jul 16 2012 at 5:32 AM Rating: Good
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Hmm. Interesting. Perhaps I should redownload a parser and test myself with my current gear (or whatever I have by the time I'm 99) and decide that way.

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#11 Jul 16 2012 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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You'll really want to play around with Kine's spreadsheet, as this will depend a bit on your particular setup, in/out of Abyssea with atma, mob (easy stuff like Dyna farming, harder things like a VW mob, etc).

In general though, the best TP earring/neck combo these days is Brutal/Moonshade (Regain augment) on the ears, and some non-Faith neck (Rancor, Agasaya, Calcitrant, Tantra). Faith is still acceptable, but generally falls behind a bit these days.

As for earrings, even without Moonshade, I think that in most situations for MNK, Ghillie/+1 (or even Aesir) win out over Bruiser's, plus they don't have the kinda icky Subtle Blow -10.
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I suppose I had better finish WotG then. Acc+4 and Regain+1 seems decent enough.
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I just resubbed myself, although it hasnt been quite as long for me. Used to frequent this forum and its good to see people coming back! Anyway im going to do the 99uncap fight with ls tonight, super stoked to get shijin spiral and start upgrading a couple gear slots that could use tweaking. I never thought one of my issues with monk would be having too much gear haste lol
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#14 Jul 17 2012 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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Well just remember you actually need 26% in gear haste to hit the cap. Smiley: tongue
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#15 Jul 17 2012 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Well just remember you actually need 26% in gear haste to hit the cap. Smiley: tongue


Yeah. Im sitting at 27 atm, and thats with tantra gloves still at +1 lol. on another note, i uncapped to 99 and got shijin spiral! Now to spend the rest of the month maxing its merits. 15 merits per point. F u.

Ok realistically thats like only 5 hours work. But still!

Edit: its not 15 per point. Its 15 for the first point. Then 20. Then 25, 30. Lol. Almost there.



Edited, Jul 19th 2012 4:05pm by Llester
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#16 Jul 18 2012 at 5:02 AM Rating: Good
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My Monk is still 75. It will sit there until I get my gorram Black Belt. Smiley: motz

Hopefully the beard will drop tonight for me though Smiley: grin
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Hi,

Hope you don't mind me expanding your thread a bit Nilatai, you've been really helpful with other MNK queries i've had mate.

I'm doing the push from 55-75 on MNK at the moment and as i've mentioned befoer it's the first melee job i've ever done properly and i've only just came back, so the power leveling of GoV means gear is being outdated quickly.

At the moment i'm sitting with pretty much lvl 30 gear (Merc Captain Set) and level 32 weapon (cant remember the name of them at this point) . Once I get to 60 i'm going to do a full AF run and replace what I can with it, but then i'll be picking up some AH stuff I guess.

Can anyone recommend what i should be picking up to take on with me to 75 before entering Abyssea or what's required for 70 Matt fight?

Thanks,

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You're finally back in the game, Nil? If you stick with it I may come back after my resit =P
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Nilatai wrote:
My Monk is still 75. It will sit there until I get my gorram Black Belt. Smiley: motz

Hopefully the beard will drop tonight for me though Smiley: grin


Good ruck!

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Taim wrote:


Can anyone recommend what i should be picking up to take on with me to 75 before entering Abyssea or what's required for 70 Matt fight?

Thanks,

Taim


Theres a thread on the general discussion page aboutfighting maat as a monk. Probably something in the stickies here too.

Basically make sure your skills are capped and you have at least decent gear.

Opoopo necklace and sleep pots for tp. Vile elixir maybe.

As for 75 gear id probably stick with AH pieces and a couple nm drops ( o kote, sarutobi kyahan come to mind) until you can get your pink power ranger set from aby, and then go from there.
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#21 Jul 21 2012 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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Shura Togi Vs Juogi (+1), thoughts?

Looks like a potential upgrade to me.
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Nilatai wrote:
Shura Togi Vs Juogi (+1), thoughts?

Looks like a potential upgrade to me.


I believe it is, LS mates have told me it's best piece to hold you over til Tantra +2. Using it myself and feels like having Destroyers back on again with a Rancor Collar outside of Aby.
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Nilatai wrote:
Shura Togi Vs Juogi (+1), thoughts?

Looks like a potential upgrade to me.


Definitely an upgrade, at least in aby.
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#24 Jul 22 2012 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
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I'll have to look into getting one. Having one made would run me about 6mil on my server though. I'll wait and see if one pops on the AH for a cool 1mil.
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Yeah i wouldnt like, go out of your way for one. Tantra cyclas +2 is pretty beast. And theres always lokis kaftan, which is an easy fight. I had horrible luck on the droprate, so i just went right to tantra.
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Loki's Kaftan makes me angry to look at. Just seriously rubs me the wrong way.
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Nilatai wrote:
Loki's Kaftan makes me angry to look at. Just seriously rubs me the wrong way.

I looks sooooo great with the pink boots though.
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Loki's Kaftan makes me angry to look at. Just seriously rubs me the wrong way.

I looks sooooo great with the pink boots though.

Don't even get me started. Smiley: mad
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get your pink boots and gloves, your subligar, and you anwig salade.
You have now become...

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Edited, Jul 30th 2012 9:02pm by Xilk
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