MNK now most popular job in the gameFollow

Ok, everyone one, stop playing monk and go level your Puppetmasters instead

I'm actually surprised RNG is higher than DRG...

In fairness note that the top 6 jobs are starter jobs. Many of those are no doubt bonanza mules since level 5 is the 2nd most popular place to leave a job (after 90 of course). Of those 6, monk is the fastest and easiest to level 1-5 so I would wager many or most of those bonanza mules are skewing the monk numbers.

I also wonder how many of those are just old accounts. There are a huge number of 75s. The lowest 4 jobs are the most recently added jobs with only dancer (a great subjob) breaking into the middle of the pack. More bsts then sams? I don't know how they define 'main job' but to think there are more bsts then sams.....I don't know if these numbers are telling the complete story.

Also, I still am not sure on how they pick a person's "main job" when they have multiple 90s. Probably just whatever they happen to be on when the scan is on.

Probably because swapping merits is so easy. Who isn't sitting at capped 20/20 merits nowadays?

Monk was always the best job in the game, along side Warrior. Can't beat that kind of versatility. I don't know what the game is like at 90, but it's nice to see MNK get the attention it deserves.

I may well do!

That's because that and Penance are the only useful things there.

Atma of the Guardian Bushido

Enhances Guard: Superior (+50%)
DMG reduction taken while guarding an attack: Supperior (+50%)



Shame is doesn't exist though :/

Invigorate is handy, especially solo. Any time you aren't getting topped off/regen immediately by a healer, Invigorate is a benefit.

I don't really consider Formless Strikes useful. I recently dropped my one Formless merit and just bumped Invigorate up to 5/5, since I haven't had a single situation in the past year where it was important that I had Formless. I'd much rather have 400 free Regen HP on a JA I regularly do use than access to a JA that I haven't had use for in years.

Even if you DO find a place where Formless Strikes can do something, your damage will be crap and frankly a MNK having formless makes zero difference in whether you win/lose the fight - best case is that you might slightly speed up the fight with a tiny bit of extra damage in the super unusual instances where Formless is at all useful. You'd probably do just as well spamming /NIN ninjutsu though, or going and TPing on some other mob to wait for a chance to do a WS on your main target, or even charging Boosts for a big Chi Blast (LOL2004!).

While I agree that Invigorate is useful (as discussed in my previous reply), I wouldn't say Penance has lost its luster. I actually think Penance is MORE useful than ever these days. In Abyssea when trying for procs, it's great BEFORE you hit the proc to reduce TP moves that will cause a dirty WS/spell attempt (I agree that most NMs die pretty quickly once you hit procs, but that's not really the point of the utility here). And in lowman/solo content, reducing nasty TP moves is often a significant benefit for survival.

Honestly the only annoyance to me is that if you're playing with a NIN, Yurin and Penance don't overlap/stack and it can be hard to see when the effect wears to rotate the inhibit TP effect. Hate when I Chi Blast and the NIN doesn't notice and uses Yurin 10 seconds later :P. Though it is kinda cool to rotate Yurin/Chi with multiple NIN MNK working well together.

I haven't missed Formless at all since I went 5/5 Penance 5/5 Invigorate though. If for some reason it becomes actually important to have in the future, I'll just drop back down to 4/5 Invigorate and get 1 Formless merit again.

yeah only things i remember using Formless on was Alexander fight and the slime temanos floor. FS > 100Fist > slime, other mnk same, restore chest, repeat. Then widdle down the final 2.




This, Pennance is where its at, especially if it only you on an nm, or you and another mnk or nin (20% mob tp reduction doesn't go far with THF's and WAR's hitting it). Its nice being able to bash down a T3 to 55-65% before it uses a TP move.

Invigorate was more useful in times of past, but now we have 4K HP (and thats for Hume), Invig is only covering upto 10% of my HP. Thats less than 50% healed after a ga-IV. witha 4K HP pool, has anyone considered something like 5/5 Pennance and 5/5 Mantra? 3mins (is it?) of 20% more HP could be a nice boost when a T3's HP hits 50% or mainly 25%.

Considering im maxed to the teeth for merits 20/20 etc, I might give that a go and just see if I find it more useful than invig or form in abys.

So people are going 5/5 FS/Penance now? I went 5/4/1 personally. I found Formless Strikes to be far too situational to warrant more than one merit. Then again this was over 14months ago...

Don't mean to de-rail, but Nil, come back and update the MNK equipment guide! I keep going away and half my armour is now relic... and I mean old, not Relic. :/

Edited, Jul 18th 2011 3:37pm by Sandmasterr

Well if I come back I'll need help getting up to scratch! you two had better be prepared to halp!

yeah i'd pass the job onto someone who would like to do it. Your guides could be held in place with bolded into them 'UP TO 75 CAP', then whoever makes the new ones can do 75-90. If you do it, I wouldn't edit the ones you have made, let ppl know they are out of date in the title or index and add the lvl75-90 ones in seperately.

Theres still alot of useful threads in the sticky's, especially math related ones, and the whole sticky is the foundations of where we've come from. The formor End life of XI has now vastly become mid-life but losing those classic threads would be sad and a little insulting to the great MNK's of past that had to hang their gloves up due to to many injuries, or the unfortunate MNK's that got KIA like Pahn.

That's not a tear, I just got a piece of dirt in my eye when I was punching stuff in the face a minute ago. So... guess I know how I'm gonna do my final log-off.

Tales have been told about the great MNK Pahn, I guess the fables change depending which server your on.


Is why some say KIA

He did, it was *Hic*. He didn't like it so Darqflame took it away.

Also, that picture was totally my idea. Jus' sayin'.

Why are all your heroes Galka?

Pssh, I used to live in Bastok. You never quite get the smell of mines out of the Galka...

Still, they are fun to go drinking with.

Edited, Sep 24th 2011 3:51am by Nilatai