Double attack & triple attackFollow

The generally accepted truth is that DA has higher priority. Nothing 100% confirmed as far as I know, just a fact that's been tossed around for quite a while. Testing DA and TA rates and priorities gets tedious and hard with big sample sizes so I haven't tested it myself and pretty much decided to accept the generally accepted truth.

Thank you for the quick replies. I was really hoping that someone was 100% sure how it worked, but I guess I'll have to stop being lazy and go test it out for myself. It's really gonna blow to test though. Assuming 10% triple attack rate (base triple attack rate and merits) and 5% double attack rate (brutal earring), and assuming DA > TA, DA should only block TA every 1/200 swings. A decent sample size would probaly be no less than 1000 instances of it occurring since I would only be looking for a 0.5% variance in TA rate, and that would come out to 200,000 attack rounds. :(. Anyone have any ideas for a good mob to test something like that on? Actually now that I think about it aren't there some walls in Xarcabard [S] that I can beat on forever?

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 3:51pm by benzdoctorodin

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 3:52pm by benzdoctorodin

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 3:53pm by benzdoctorodin

That would be quite useful to know, as if TA takes precedent over DA, that might affect my dagger choices somewhat.

Ok here's some test results. All tests were preformed as a naked THF90/WAR45 single wielding an ash club. Target mob was the Zvahl Fortalice, since it doesn't fight back and I could go afk while testing.

Data:

Total attack rounds= 8625

Total single attack rounds= 7020 (81.39%)

Total double attack rounds= 754 (8.74%)

Total triple attack rounds= 851 (9.87%)


These %'s have been almost exactly the same since my last post at 1265 attack rounds. The data almost exactly reflects what you would expect to see if your hypothesis was TA has higher priority than DA. I would have expected 10% TA rate, 9% DA rate and 81% single attack rate, and I am very close to thoes numbers. I would personally feel comftorable ending the test right there but my data seems to disprove something that the ffxi community thought to be true for 7+ years, so i will continue testing to get a larger sample size.

But as it stands right now I feel completly comftorable making this statement. Triple attack has a higher priority than double attack.

^ Seconded!

It was never really a big enough issue when at worst, you looked at 10% TA trait, 5% DA earring, and MAYBE 1% TA from homam back in yesteryear. These days, there is SOOOO much DA/TA gear and atmas available combined with AF3 trait affecting TA (and i still cross my fingers for DW3 native /war UBERNESS by 99 for another 10% DA) that the order things proc in may very well have applicable value in gear/atma choices.

With so much DA/TA it actually will have significant differennces if one procs before the other and our set AF3 bonus just compounding the issue.

Please sir! Can I have some more (samples)?

I haven't had a chance to test thf/war this busy holiday season, but elsewhere on this forum (patch-day thread?) someone confirmed (or seemed to) that we get DW2 at 90. There was math there but I didn't check it myself.

That assumes that AC and WC can both be up at the same time, but yes.

Insightful idea tho ^^

Does it work on charmed people? Brd+colibri make that easy enough.