What abyssea NM's can YOU Solo?Follow

Just soloed both Tefenet and Muscaliet. Neither are hard at all. They just require a bit of planning.

For Tefenet:
The only things you need to worry about is mortal blast and blink of peril. Both are gaze attacks, and can be avoided by turning away. Fight unlocked, turn whenever he uses a TP move, and he'll go down in no time.

For Muscaliet:
Wiki makes it sound like heat breath is going to own you, but if you get hit with it, it's your fault. Whenever he uses heat breath, he'll turn a random direction first. So long as you move if/when he turns your direction, you'll never get hit with it. Other than that, he's a simple solo.

Both were done with mounted champion/hero/zenith atmas. Was gearing up to attempt Minhacao again, and that's the best of my HP atmas atm :/ As you can see, I wasn't using anything special. I meleed both in my nothing-spectacular evasion set, with less than capped eva.

yataghan/acc kila/
emp/nothing with eva/
dragon harness/war gloves/sniper's/alert
nomad's/mithran stone/aurore/aurore

Like I said, nothing special. Went with dragon harness over scorpion harness because of the -ice for Tefenet, and the -10% breath damage for Muscaliet, but that's really not necessary.

Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make. Even with sub-par atmas, he was cake. Took a while to kill, but I wasn't geared/atma'd for damage. Popped him mostly just to see how it'd go, and if I were to do it again, I'd definitely go with DD atmas. If I wasn't clear, both were easy as hell, and the regen wasn't needed. It's just what I had on at the time.

Just tried this, sood facing directly west, first heat breath went on an angle and hit me for 550 dmg, immediatly did another right in my face for 2000+

Either way he has a rather long charge up and faces the direction hes gonna blow with plenty of time to just move if he does it. Also, there is enough time to setup a SA or SAWS. So Id recommend moving anyway just to take advantage of that over picking the right spot. Its so easy to dodge, no reason not to.

Not sure if you mean gorge or disgorge. Disgorge on minhacao is easily avoided because he wont turn for disgorge. He does turn on some moves, but just stay on his side/back and he will never hit with disgorge ever. Glavoid DOES turn towards the tank at all times so it doesnt work on him (/cry). I dont think gorge is earth damage as it is an HP drain move. Disgorge IS earth damage. However -mdt gear stuff has no effect on disgorge. A war buddy of mine (completed the Empy Gaxe 50x glavoid junk) has faught glav well.....a lot. But he told me yesterday that he has tried -mag damage gear sets and everythig with no effect on disgorge.

Earth resist DOES help against disgorge though. My most recent fight (did x3) I had a good whm and brd. Earth carol2/march for songs and a well geared whm barstonra. There were a number of disgorges over 3 glavoids and a few were resisted, not many, but a couple (1.5k damage etc). Also, with all the bar-earth stuff, the slowga only landed maybe half the time and stoneaga4 wasnt nearly as painful. Generally made the fight smoother overall. Over the last ~7 fights I have done, the disgorges have almost universally done 3000 damage even. My 'new' build for tanking glavoid puts me at 3800 hp. On the most recent set of 3x glav last weekend, I actually ate some ~6ish disgorges to the face and never died once. It was SO empowering xD

I got hit with a 6k one a while back when fighting in an alliance. I have never been hit for 6k when i was solo or duo tanking. I really thing it has something to do with either the number of people healed via gorge, or (a theory my war friend has) its a bastardized aflatus solice>Holy where the amount of HP glav heals (phy when he TPs, Magic when he casts and maybe gorge and bloodweapon) will make disgorge damage go up. Either way, the fewer people on it/hurting it the better.

The barspells/carols are nice, but not anything remotely reliable for disgorge, but toss in the slowga/stonega spam and the more resist, the better anyway. The only way to survive disgorge regularly I have found is:
*Have 2 tanks in case one eats it (also makes hate reset under 50% when it bloodweapons a non-issue so reccomended anyway)
*Have enough HP to survive 3k disgorge (normal amount) and a stray hit after that while getting shadows back up(i have 3800 now when i fight him now and havent died to disgorge since)

Another 'theory' from war friend that seems logical is that disgorge might be breath damage and thus, -breath damage taken gear/atmas might be the way to go since -mag damage taken doesnt do jack. But I havent tested it yet. So far, high HP 2x tanks is what i have found to work and im sticking with that for now.

In case people are wondering what im doing for HP:
Mithra Thf/nin
5/6 Merit abyssites
8/8 HP merits
Atma: RR, 2x HP superior atmas (Impreg. Tower, ebon hoof)
Full time HP gear: Rings-Meridian/BQueen ring. Back-Gigant mantle. Earrings-Bloodgem/Suppa. I just remove all my back/rings/earrings besides those into satchel instead of making new macros :P

Hope this is useful to someone xD

Great Info Ban, almost convinced me again to go for it... then I remembered that Serra won't pop for me...
But still, I need it for my quest fight so good info. It's just that right now, I really do lack of HP bonus stat, gear wise, atma wise and further more, abyssite wise :( Well mnk friend will do the job meanwhile :P

Same question as above regarding collecting KI. It's not that NM are hard. But it can be painful to gather all KI solo, time wise I mean. (and sadly no dual-box available here >.<)

My war friend has a taru whm bot so he just fell cleaved everything. He would invite LS people to come leech exp for jobs/subs/merits/whatever and in exchange they would just hold pop sets for him. It was really ingenious and im jelous. I 'almost' leveled war up just to imitate that method.

Ultimately I just farm my sets with Thf+Rdm by actually killing the NMs. It takes be a decent afternoon after work to farm 2 sets (me +bot). So far most have taken me about 3-4 hours of actual in-abyssea time (sometimes i take breaks and stuff) to get both chars from 0/4 to 4/4. It can vary on particularly good or bad luck with KI drops since i basically only have dagger to work with. If you can do it with say, Nin/war+mage, you would be far better off simply due to procing red more often than not.

Once in a while I can find someone to jump in and proc red on the last NM that i need for my set that is being stubborn.

Its not quite as fast as cleave farming, but its targetable. If i am 3/4 i can just target that NM until i get KI instead of praying for the right box to drop. It is also on my own time which has value in itself, but that is because i can dualbox it whenever i want. My general 'plan' is to farm 2 sets during weeknights at some point, draft people to kill x2 on fri or sat. Farm up a second set x2 asap after that and draft more help on sat night or sun to pop another 2. Repeat next week. I also check AH frequently for the pop items throughout the week as it saves me time, but they are rare-ish on my server. Its not as ideal as cleaving and having a buncha LS/friends leech exp and hold bajillions of pops to spam in a marathon, but it will get the job done eventually. 15/50 right now.

I have found it very difficult to find people to help me grind away at getting pop sets regularly as it takes HOURS no matter what method chosen. It is much easier to have pops ready and bringin the calvary for 2-3ish glavs at a time.

Basically, the 'better' method (cleave or NMs) depends on your jobs, ability to find helpers for red, and ability or lack of dual box. It is sad, but every single person in my LS with an empyream (5), or who is well on their way(me :P) can dual box. It is really that painfully obvious. These mobs have NOTHING to use as a carrot to drag people to help you for WEEK after WEEK besides their goodwill. These mobs drop junk and no gil. If you can find the help, its doable. For most, that comes in the form of another char they control :S

Don't think it can be kited. Only moment i ran away from him was to get from the pop area to the fight area (usually near 8). He could reach me easily but i could outrun his spells just as easy (probably not slowga, can't remember).

In my case, when that 12k disgorge happened everyone died lol. The RDM was thankfully using apoc atma and kept using bio + rr to prevent depop until everyone was ready. Glavoid also doesn't aggro, not that this matters much.

The cleaving i did with a mnk friend that needed chloris buds. Mnk can "cleave" pretty well with cataclysm, and we thfs can help with aeolian too. My war friend ended up not cleaving lol, instead he stayed sch to aoe phalanx with double duration. But yeah, trading chloris pops for glavoids are a very nice deal to speed things up and i completed the trial in 3 days, with about 10h runs each day.

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 6:06pm by Laphine

We can do the same almost as fast with Aeolian Edge. War isnt the only job that can aoe farm boxes. Blu and Mnk are both great as well as anyone with Aeolian Edge. Its not as easy as an out of the box war but it works great with many setups and only takes 2 people (although 3 is way better gogo mnk+thf+healer).