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#1 Sep 08 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I am taking a stand and not upgrading the feet. If I do I will be gimped by them at every event forever.

SE can take their TH+1 and enhances despoil feet and shove them up their asses.
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#2 Sep 08 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I plan to trick attack, TAManStab, and evasion it up in them. I plan on hitting most mobs with TA id want to stick TH on anyway.

Byakko haidate for tp...but maybe better...**** yes.
That head piece......OMG.
Feet....sadly not great TP feet so the set bonus will probably not see much play time, but dear got the agi/eva

Oh and something about TH.
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#3 Sep 08 2010 at 4:48 PM Rating: Default
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THF easily got the weakest set in this update.

MNK gets 13% haste

DNC gets 15% haste

NIN gets 17% haste, Enhances DW and a set bonus that also enhances DW.

WAR gets 13% haste 10% Double Attack and a set bonus that also increases double attack.


THF gets 11% haste, "enhances despoil", some evasion and TH+1



We got screwed again. But I suppose we should come to expect this. I have seriously begun to think that someone on the development team does not like THF.

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 7:56pm by Lobivopis
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#4 Sep 08 2010 at 5:07 PM Rating: Default
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I am taking a stand and not upgrading the feet. If I do I will be gimped by them at every event forever.



Do what I do, dont ever get the dagger, if you do, sell it for some extra food money, and if your in line for hand drop in dyna, ask if you will be pigeonholed into wearing them forever, if the answer is yes, pass on them, the drop is NOT worth getting people upset about you not wanting to equip something on YOUR **** job ><

If you do have the gloves... then work with it somehow, most respectable shell leaders/sacks will acknowledge the "gimping" that is wearing one of the aformentioned pieces full time. If it really bothes you that much, then when all available options are expended, walk and start fresh in a new group for whatever your group was doing prior, and DO NOT mention you have said TH items, I sure dont :P "Because I dont have them, trust me on this one XD"
#5 Sep 08 2010 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
I wonder how good that Boomerang that's THF only and has 'Enahnces Dual Wield" is?
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#6 Sep 08 2010 at 5:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can understand your plight, but I won't boycott them. I will use them. I start with little TP, put on my eva/TH set and /ra the NM (Feet go nicely with this), then swap to DD daggers and DD gear until the mob is @5%, and then put them back on. Simple really but I understand alot of morons demand fulltime TH.
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#7 Sep 08 2010 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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Any THF that refuses to use these feet is a princess. Just as bad as a BRD that won't go to an ideal party, or the RDM's that are QQing and refuse to refresh2 anyone but themselves.
#8 Sep 08 2010 at 5:57 PM Rating: Default
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ShamanTaru wrote:
Any THF that refuses to use these feet is a princess. Just as bad as a BRD that won't go to an ideal party


A Gjallarhorn BRD has earned the right to be a princess.

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 8:58pm by Lobivopis
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#10 Sep 08 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lobivopis wrote:
THF easily got the weakest set in this update.

MNK gets 13% haste

DNC gets 15% haste

NIN gets 17% haste, Enhances DW and a set bonus that also enhances DW.

WAR gets 13% haste 10% Double Attack and a set bonus that also increases double attack.


THF gets 11% haste, "enhances despoil", some evasion and TH+1



We got screwed again. But I suppose we should come to expect this. I have seriously begun to think that someone on the development team does not like THF.

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 7:56pm by Lobivopis


I'm gonna say DRK got the weakest set of the melees.
Overall, Haste +6% Double Attack +3% enhances "Nether Void" and "Occult Acumen", MAB (which doesn't affect dark magic, only elemental magic for DRKs) and M.acc, along with a boatload of STR...but Haste, STR is not. I have both THF and DRK leveled, and I'm happy to at least have 2 great TP pieces on my THF. DRK is gonna fall way behind in gear Haste compared to every other melee at this point, only getting 1 more Haste than Walmart Turban, and no boosts on Legs or Feet.
#11 Sep 08 2010 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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That hat is TP win.

Legs are pretty good too.

These two pieces can give us 25% gear haste with pretty basic kit stuff: AF3 Head + Rap + Hommam + Swift. Its not inconcievable to cap gear haste without the feet and make use of the set bonus.

Whether that will be worth it over something like a more desirable body TP piece...I guess it depends on the set bonus.
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#12 Sep 08 2010 at 8:24 PM Rating: Decent
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THF easily got the weakest set in this update.

MNK gets 13% haste

DNC gets 15% haste

NIN gets 17% haste, Enhances DW and a set bonus that augments dual wield in an unknown and possibly useless way.

WAR gets 13% haste 10% Double Attack and a set bonus that augments double attack in some unknown and possibly useless way.


THF gets 11% haste, "enhances despoil", some evasion, TH+1, an ammo piece that enhances dual wield, and at a bare minimum 6% triple attack.


Fixed that for you. It could have been better, but don't lie. When you don't lie, it isn't bad at all.

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 10:30pm by louispv

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 10:30pm by louispv
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#13 Sep 08 2010 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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louispv wrote:
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THF easily got the weakest set in this update.

MNK gets 13% haste

DNC gets 15% haste

NIN gets 17% haste, Enhances DW and a set bonus that augments dual wield in an unknown and possibly useless way.

WAR gets 13% haste 10% Double Attack and a set bonus that augments double attack in some unknown and possibly useless way.


THF gets TH511% haste, "enhances despoil", some evasion, TH+1, an ammo piece that enhances dual wield, and at a bare minimum 6% triple attack.


Fixed that for you. It could have been better, but don't lie. When you don't lie, it isn't bad at all.


Ftfy.

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#14 Sep 09 2010 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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It's not as bad when you think of it in terms of marginal games. They basically gave us kitty pants, whereas many other jobs could already use them. In addition, the jobs that could already easily hit the equip haste cap, aka Monk, gain a relatively smaller boost in virtue of not being able to surpass said cap.
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#15 Sep 09 2010 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Shamaya wrote:
It's not as bad when you think of it in terms of marginal games. They basically gave us kitty pants, whereas many other jobs could already use them. In addition, the jobs that could already easily hit the equip haste cap, aka Monk, gain a relatively smaller boost in virtue of not being able to surpass said cap.


MNK gained the ability to hit haste cap with only 3 slots (head body and waist). That's a huge boost.






Edited, Sep 9th 2010 6:40am by Lobivopis
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#16 Sep 09 2010 at 3:39 AM Rating: Decent
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First, before I say anything else, just remember. There are at least two more pieces coming out. They could make the set stronger depending on what they put on them.

I get the feeling that SE is trying to fix thf and make it a better DD but they're going about it wrong.

Upside: Crit Attack Bonus: Improves power of critical hits. Our SA's can now hit harder. Full of win in my opinion.

Upside: Despoil: Steals items from an enemy while inflicting a status ailment upon it. You can inflict a random status debuff, just by stealing. Pretty cool.

Downside: Another steal? Come on really? Do we honestly need another steal?

Upside: Dual Wield. You no longer have to sub nin or dnc to get dual wield. pretty cool if not for...

Downside: Dual Wield 1 at 83 (if I remember correctly). You mean to tell me that even though thf has better acc with a dagger than dnc, they can swing faster? Lovely. We might be able to hit half the time but dnc can miss faster than us (not meant to put dnc down in any way, please don't take it as an insult.)

Upside: AF3. Our AF3 is pretty cool in my opinion. It has some pretty nice buffs on it.

Downside: AF3 that has another TH+1. Great. Not only do I have to wait in line forever for AF2 armlets, but now I have to get these feet, and probably be stuck coming to every end game event that *needs* TH+5. They have officially screwed every main time thf who ever had ambitions of coming something else to an event.

Sorry about getting a tad off topic there. Anyways, yeah, I'm kinda bitter about this. The other pieces of thf AF3 are pretty cool, but SE just proved to me that thfs are nothing but treasure hunter whores. That said, I'll get the feet. I won't boycott them, but when I finish my next 75, or rather 85, if I keep getting forced to come thf to events because of it, I'll probably store my gear and wait a very long time to play thf again.

Edit:I really shouldn't hit the forums when I'm tired. -.-zzzz
Edited, Sep 9th 2010 5:08am by Setsuai

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 5:19am by Setsuai
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#17 Sep 09 2010 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Would it really have hurt to put Haste +4% on the feet? It's not like THF's aren't going to wear Homam feet anyway. Does SE really think that having TH+1 and Haste is going to break the game?




Here's what really gets me though. SE put +despoil on two of the pieces. SE really believes that Despoil is a useful ability, they actually believe that.


Edited, Sep 9th 2010 6:46am by Lobivopis
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#18 Sep 09 2010 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Setsuai wrote:


Downside: Dual Wield 1 at 83 (if I remember correctly). You mean to tell me that even though thf has better acc with a dagger than dnc, they can swing faster? Lovely. We might be able to hit half the time but dnc can miss faster than us (not meant to put dnc down in any way, please don't take it as an insult.)



THF does not have higher accuracy than Dancer with a dagger because DNC has Accuracy Bonus III
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#19 Sep 09 2010 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Lobivopis wrote:
THF does not have higher accuracy than Dancer with a dagger because DNC has Accuracy Bonus III


Noted. Still doesn't make up for the fact that we got screwed on Dual wield and AF3

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 5:17am by Setsuai
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#20 Sep 09 2010 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Lobivopis wrote:
THF easily got the weakest set in this update.

MNK gets 13% haste

DNC gets 15% haste

NIN gets 17% haste, Enhances DW and a set bonus that also enhances DW.

WAR gets 13% haste 10% Double Attack and a set bonus that also increases double attack.


THF gets 11% haste, "enhances despoil", some evasion and TH+1

That's because one of the THF pieces is not a TP piece; it's the best TA, evasion, and TH gear for that slot in the game.

Of the other two pieces, one of them is easily the best TP piece THF can equip (and in the argument for best TP armor in the entire game), and the other one is a significant upgrade from anything else THF can wear in that slot.

Stop whining.

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#21 Sep 09 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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You don't really have to full time TH gear, right? I mean toss the TH gear on at the end of a fight and make sure you do something to apply it, like smack the mob.



Edited, Sep 9th 2010 2:03pm by JaxReborn
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#22 Sep 09 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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I really don't see what the issue is here... no one has even looked at what the Despoil augments are at this point. While I was out getting Kindred Crests last night, I was playing around with Despoil and it actually seemed to increase the chance of steal, and every successful steal added a long lasting (most mobs were dead quick, but one lasted at least a minute). My issue is more with the fact that all I saw was ACC down and never anything else (could just be mob family though).

As for the rest of the gear... I don't care if I have to sell a kidney to get it, but I want that head piece! That in itself is better than just about anything I could have hoped for. I don't care if other jobs got slightly better stats on some pieces, I could only ever upgrade that headpiece and be happy with THF. I really hope SE doesn't make it insanely hard to upgrade though (who am I kidding right?)... As for the TH on the feet... I am sure any battle it is needed in, I will have a chance to TA someone.
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#23 Sep 09 2010 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
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Perhaps the TH+ on the feet arent so bad. I have quite a few TH4 THF in my LS with other mains. I'll likely be the first one to finish the feet. At least that means to me that I'll be the go-to THF for events (for reasons OTHER than that I own face XD).

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 6:18pm by ThiefKiller
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