Evolith DiscussionFollow

So, finally solid information about the new "system with items" has been released, and SE calls it "the Evolith System." This may be a little early to discuss, as it's not out yet, but who doesn't like to speculate? Some of this new junk looks kinda suave. So let's maybe talk about,

*Speculation/hopes, *New weapons/armor applications, *Old weapons/armor applications, *Where to find ideal evolith pieces for us, *Uber item theorycraft, *Pics, etc

Course right now only the first of those topics applies. But we've already got some nice information and pics to look at:
Some other stuff,
-.Dat mining thread
-News thread
-Dagger pic!

My hopes are as follow:

-- Allow all weapons (including rare and rare/ex) to use the system.

--Allow current endgear game to also use the system. This includes all the rare/ex gear we obtained in the past.

My reasoning for this is so the hard to obtain items as well as the ones we have some attachment to like relic, X's knife, blau, can still gain a boost.

For the endgame gear, I believe that people that worked for their gear had a chance to make it even better. I, myself, don't want to get something that rivals current endgame gear or surpass it by doing work in one day, a la mini expansion rewards, while others worked for months for theirs.

I know that the argument lately has been to just drop old content and go for something fresh and new but some of the old gear was acquired through a lot of stress and sometimes hold special meanings to us because we acquired it with friends and still want to look at it everyday.

I am also in the hopes of making Homam Zucchero worth actually owning :P

Also, I am very pleased with the looks of what the supposedly new gear coming is. Its base looks are very similar to what we have lately but the final touches to it made it look very bad ass.

If Jinte's prediction is correct, then this would probably be the new thief endgame gear and it has such a bad ass Night Thief look to it.

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/gahati/FFXI/newarmor_dncthf.jpg

I also liked his prediction of the monk/pup gear because it has a very Mortal Kombat look to it:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/gahati/FFXI/newarmor_mnkpup.jpg

Edited, Nov 4th 2009 4:06pm by carlcarl

Honestly, i would hope it can basically be applied to anything. Is adding at+5 to heca sub+1 going to break the game? no.

If they exclude the good gear (rare/ex) from this system I think it will be a very junky system. Let us DO something to change the upper tier of options without REPLACING them outright with AH gear. Let me keep my PCA I camped so many years ago and do something with it. Let me touch up my beloved homam corazza that looks so awesome. Let me put another 5 HP on my bomb queen ring for drg HP build. Why the hell not!

If you can use this system on virtually anything, then it helps everyone and hurts no one.

If you are a casual gamer without hardcore endgame affiliations or time to devote to 7 days of events, you can still take your AH gear, nyzul gear, etc etc and buff it up to something really nifty. If you are a hardcore person, why not let us add a little bonus to that skadi body or Valk Fork/X's/Homam/Heca.

However, my FAVORITE part is that these changes are NOT locked in stone (a-la random augment system). If you upgrade something with stones, you can change it later or remove the upgrades all together and sell the item etc. Loss of stones is fine, but the fact that it IS reversable is auto-win. I do not have to be afraid to up my nice items on the idea that more stones will be added later i would use instead, or whatever.

I am REALLY liking this system. If they let us buff up rare/ex gear, this whole thing will be epic awesomeness.

Most of our good endgame gear is Rare/Ex, instead of AHable. I wonder if augmenting some of the Dusk and/or Dragon gear would rival Homam and Hecatomb.

I'd really like to be able to augment my PCC so that Love Torque isn't a necessity in some situations for me anymore.

More than likely you will be limited by crafting gear since the update already says it's implementing new gear, but SOME existing gear will be evolvable.

So my guess is the jumbalayas will be the best daggers that might benefit

even then most if tu listed orbs look mad limiting, ability or weapon specific, so hopefully there are some better ones. Even +20 atk for ws on a weapon would fail to a Blau. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Looks like adding this to gear will require use of a new type of synthesis with the possibility of blowups and lost items.

So either you won't be able to upgrade your homam corazza. Or you will, but will risk loosing it in the process.

Edited, Nov 6th 2009 8:18am by Lobivopis

Ooops you blew up your raparee harness and you can't get another one.

I think with the customization and limited slots and such it sounds more like a glyph system.

But that's good, the wide variety of ways to upgrade/alter/'customize' your character is one of the things I like about WoW over other MMO's I've tried. If they're doing this in FFXI they can develop FFXIV to have it in earlier.

I do agree it's a good addition, regardless of the form it comes in. It's a little late in the game for this kind of an addition, but it's nice to see them trying it out. I would also like to see this kind of customization carry over into XIV. Even if there does come to be a "best" setup per situation, it's nice to have options.

I'd also like to see SE update their damn website more than once per year. -_- But that's a different complaint for a different thread.

As i understand you will to CHOOSE augment (evolith) first before you apply it. So unless u put someting usless it should be all good.

My favorite comparion of this is to FF VII materia system.

You have slots, and you have stuff u put in it. You can remuve it also as you wish.

If you ask me i would make any item augentable with no risk of breakin git. But good augments would be hard to obtain.


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