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#1 Sep 16 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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Ok, so after searching the stickies, I've found nothing as far as equipment guide past 2007 and was wondering if Denali Bonnet was worth having for THF? I've seen some wear it at 75, but don't know if it's just for show or they actually use it.

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Only if you somehow don't have a Walahra Turban. I... suppose it's possible, to have a Danali Bonnet and not a Walahra Turban.

But, generally, you're seeing people wear it because it makes good town gear, as it matches Homam.
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Great tick attack piece. That's it.
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I use it for the extra evasion while soloing. Comparing to Turban, it's -1% haste and +5 evasion. I do notice the evasion difference for my set up (other evasion gears are only boxer mantle and evasion torque). If I use evasion belt, I lose 8 Acc, if I use the earring, I either lose suppa. earring or brutal. All in all, I think 1% haste is not bad a trade-off comparing to the other choices. Casting less shadow to save a few gils while farming, why not.
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Its for Solo TAs.
As to soloing, Until you are fighting T mobs, evasion doesn't matter for thfs. I see THFs in evasion gear all the time doing TW-DC mobs, its a waste of gear slots. Might as well just use def gear if you are going to use evasion... or do it right and use full haste EVERYTIME acc allows.
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I was fighting 71-74 mobs. I did notice that I saved bloody bolts and shadows with this cute looking hat, comparing to when I did not equip it.

If TW, I could just fight naked, lolz. For EP, I won't even sub nin, i'd go /dnc, put on drain samba and go afk.
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Well, I have no plans to solo on THF, mainly leveling it for the times any of my groups need some TH3 (and eventually TH4). So... besides soloing, this thing is pretty much crap? Thought about using it on my MNK also, like maybe when our LS starts up Salvage or something, but I don't know if it's worth the loss of 1% haste.
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#9 Sep 16 2009 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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For group situation, it has one use: TA. If you are not that picky about max thf damage, it's not big deal to have or not to have it.

If you solo on monk, it'd have the same use as I did on my THF, and I might try it on my Nin solo sometimes.

I had always thought this is a crap piece of gears, but after I tried it out on solo, I find it rather nice for the right situation. Kinda combine half of Ohat's evasion with a -1 turban, not bad at all. My thf is for solo 99% of the time (i got more desirable jobs for merits and LS events, for good or bad), and I start to love this piece. And yes, it looks much better with Homam set than the Turban.
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If I feel the need to solo, I have DRG/mage (my main job) for that. Though, may still find a use for it if and when I take my MNK to Salvage. However, all-in-all, it's sounding like I won myself a nice inventory-1 last night. :D
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#11 Sep 16 2009 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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I like the bonnet for casting Utsusemi: Ichi on tougher mobs. I swap in less haste and more evasion (and parrying, but that's me), because if I'm casting Ichi I probably am fighting something that has a chance of connecting. Has served me well so far.
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Once you bring your THF to 75, you might want to solo on THF b/c TH.

I got a couple of solo jobs, blm, drg/mage, nin/dnc, smn etc., but if thf can solo the mobs i'd use thf when drop matters. I farmed 12 G. Chips in Sea with BLM, the drop rate was such a pain. I wish I could solo it on THF.

A friend was farming Sam Testy for 3 hours with no drop. I showed up on THF, 30 min. later, 2 dropped. Got to love TH.
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I was fighting 71-74 mobs. I did notice that I saved bloody bolts and shadows with this cute looking hat, comparing to when I did not equip it.

If TW, I could just fight naked, lolz. For EP, I won't even sub nin, i'd go /dnc, put on drain samba and go afk.


for DC-EM, there a very few mobs (mostly only mobs of a job with acc bonuses) that you will not be capped on evasion nude. This is ever more true in signet areas with signet (no EM or lower mob will hit more that 20% in any signet area with signet on).

Even if you were not at evasion cap, the 4 agl = 2 evasion =1% chance of a miss. There is no way to notice a 1% change in evasion rate (even if parsed it would be insignificant until some huge number of attacks).

For ep, /nin still kills faster (even if you never cast utsu (which inturn makes it even faster than usual) that /dnc. Faster = more gil. And a latent regen effect or fov regen will more than cover all the hp you need for ep-tw. (maybe an occasional bloody bolt...)

Denali bonnet on the is gimp for all circumstances outside of solo TA. (guess its fine for TA+MStab as well)
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I am not good on math with this game, like how much is my ACC against what mob etc.. But I do know the different results with different gears after hours and hours of farming.
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A thief that uses niche pieces like Denali Bonnet for TA, separates an NQ thief from a higher quality one. If you want to maximize your thief to full potential, get it for that at least (unless you have Skadi Mask).

What others said, you can use it for a hybrid solo/tanking build, but meh. I've used it for that and it's ~ok. It used to make a great piece of town gear as well when it was rare, and looked nice on homam, but now you see it everywhere so it tends to look awful.
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It used to make a great piece of town gear as well when it was rare, and looked nice on homam, but now you see it everywhere so it tends to look awful.


By the same token, Homam set tends to look awful also (so many Homam thf drg drk blu pld etc walk around in Whitegate). As a THF, one got to wear skadi to be cool, or it's awful, awful I tell you.

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Ok, now I'm a bit confused. You say it makes a great TA+WS piece, but would I not be sacrificing ACC (from like Ohat) for this? I'm only level 56, but have always been under the impression THF still needs ACC for DE (being multi-hit). Even Shark Bite is 2 hits.

I still plan to be a pretty good THF at 75, just no room for dagger skills, so I don't know if I could afford the ACC loss. However, perhaps providing my potential 75 TAWS gear will help...

Main: Possibly Blau (if I can afford), maybe Fane (with the DMG+6 Acc+5~10 Triple+2~3... if I'm lucky)
Off: Again... Blau, Fane, or something else off AH
Ammo: Fire Bomblet or something else if pulling
Head: Ohat or Pahluwan or Denali?
Neck: Breeze Gorget
Ear1: Drone (AGI+3) or some kind of ATT earring
Ear2: Drone (AGI+3) or some kind of ATT earring or Brutal
Body: SH or Pahluwan or Cobra (could get Homam at some point)
Hand: AF+1 or Heca (been told AF+1 if full of win on TA+WS)
Ring1: Rajas
Ring2: Ulth. Ring (ToAU ring) or AGI+4 STR+2 VIT+1 (ACP Augment ring reward)
Back: Cuch Mantle or Foragers
Legs: Denali
Feet: Heca

Keep in mind, this is for TA+WS only. I have all of the above gear already except the daggers. Just haven't looked into 75 daggers much yet.

Edited, Sep 17th 2009 9:54am by MinscandBoo
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#18 Sep 17 2009 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
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People are talking about solo TA, not TA + WS.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Looks like this padawan still has much to learn. Was not aware it was even acceptable to TA solo at 75. :p
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At level 60 you get the JA: Assassin. This makes TA work pretty much the same as SA when you TA solo. That's why when you hit 60, you start separating SA/TA.
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Heh you'll learn. It's unacceptable not to solo ta. When you reach the pinnacle of thief playstyle, you'll be doing sa+ws, ta+ws, unstacked ws, unstacked sa, unstacked ta. The frequency at which you choose to do one versus another in various situations will reflect your experience.
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Right, knew about Assassin (can't wait for 60...), just wasn't aware THFs TA post 60 without WS. Again, I don't plan to do any soloing on THF (gil not really an issue). Sounded like I would be getting TP fast enough that I would be able to split them without much overlapping or whatever.

Edited, Sep 17th 2009 10:24am by MinscandBoo
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I am not good on math with this game, like how much is my ACC against what mob etc.. But I do know the different results with different gears after hours and hours of farming.


Sure, you can notice entire sets of quipment changes by playing for hours, but you will never notice the effects of 4 agl on evasion rate no matter how long you play. 1% haste > 2 evasion for soloing anything EM- 100% of the time. As soon as evasion matters, its best to add it in all the non haste spots before losing any haste. Such a small boost will never be noticeable.
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MinscandBoo wrote:
Right, knew about Assassin (can't wait for 60...), just wasn't aware THFs TA post 60 without WS. Again, I don't plan to do any soloing on THF (gil not really an issue). Sounded like I would be getting TP fast enough that I would be able to split them without much overlapping or whatever.

Edited, Sep 17th 2009 10:24am by MinscandBoo


There are situations where maximizing damage will involve not stacking weapon skills at all. ie: Having a full AGL swap to maximize trick attack, a full dex swap for Sneak Attack while also fully gearing for your multi hit solo WS's.

And at this point you will be robbing yourself of potential damage if you are holding TP, waiting on timers and vice versa.
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The evasion bonus is +5, not +2 (EVA +3 and AGI +4). The piece also has Att +3, which mitigates the loss to DOT of -1% Haste (I figure it reduces the DOT loss by about 40% - higher for /DNC where you're not WS'ing as much (eg, Campaign solo)). In addition to the PT TA use, it's not a bad piece for solo at all for those who hate looking like every other rag-headed thf out there.

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#26icebabyisme, Posted: Sep 17 2009 at 10:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am not that stupid to say that Denali Hat made a difference after I changed other gears too. The hat was the only thing I changed.
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I don't care about your evasion numbers, I just knew when I was using turban one time I got red, my NPC died to save me. Damn thing hit me 4 times in a row and did not miss, interrupted me over and over. Whatever your number, it did not save me there, but Denali did, I never got into red after the hat switch.


This is due to game's the battle mechanics.
It is possible to be at capped evasion and still be hit 10 times in a row.
Improbable, but still possible.
The 4 hits in a row was just bad luck.
Adding more evasion if you're already maxed doesn't raise the systems built-in cap.
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This is due to game's the battle mechanics.
It is possible to be at capped evasion and still be hit 10 times in a row.
Improbable, but still possible.
The 4 hits in a row was just bad luck.
Adding more evasion if you're already maxed doesn't raise the systems built-in cap.


I agree with what you said. In my case, this hat saved me lots bloody bolts and let me cast less Ichi. That's all it matters to me. And it proves to me Denali hat has its use in solo, not a totally useless junk or inv-1.

Well, let elite players use turban no matter what, let gimp players like me don that cute hat when we see fit. :)
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I agree with what you said. In my case, this hat saved me lots bloody bolts and let me cast less Ichi. That's all it matters to me. And it proves to me Denali hat has its use in solo, not a totally useless junk or inv-1.

Well, let elite players use turban no matter what, let gimp players like me don that cute hat when we see fit. :)


Thats fine wear what you want. Just dont come here asking the forum our opinion on the head piece if you dont care to listen. Clearly your mind is made up on the matter so why even ask?


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On one hand you are saying the head piece saves you tons of bloody bolts/ichi casts. On the other hand you say you dont even solo.

Stop trying to justify its use. Just say you like it cause it matches your lipstick, or your hand bag, shoes , etc.



Edited, Sep 17th 2009 3:32pm by bjjbluebelt
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Thats fine wear what you want. Just dont come here asking the forum our opinion on the head piece if you dont care to listen. Clearly your mind is made up on the matter so why even ask?


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On one hand you are saying the head piece saves you tons of bloody bolts/ichi casts. On the other hand you say you dont even solo.

Stop trying to justify its use. Just say you like it cause it matches your lipstick, or your hand bag, shoes , etc.


Easy now, I was the only one asking about Denali hat and stating I don't plan to solo on THF. Icebabyisme was the one talking about Denali hat saving bloody bolts and stuff. You're basically lumping us together and attacking icebabyisme for questions I had and advice s/he gave. Ice never asked about it's use, I did.
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Blah blah my annecdotal experiances based on nothing but my own opinion are more important than your mathamatical calulations based on formulas used by the game. There is no such thing as luck. it happened once so it must be the rule.
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I know what you're saying, Minscandboo. In a perfect world, conditions would be such that you'd never disengage from a mob for hours worth of fighing, nor would any other factors affect the steady in-sync count-down of your ja timers to the count-up of your TP. However, the game's just not like that. It took people awhile to realize the "get 100tp every 30 seconds, sa+ws; do it again, ta+ws" model was unrealistic. It's about being flexible. A single party on thief, where you bear this in mind, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Feather tickle :( = tp wiped. Or, your ja timer is ready and your tp is at 99%, but the mob dies. And another mob doesn't spawn or come to camp for 30 seconds. Sa/Ta merits adjust your ja timers. And further, in ideal situations, 30 seconds to get TP is actually rather slow. Assuming the right conditions, I think I'm at about the 18-20 second mark in exp. Also, there's the matter of prepping sa/ta before a fight to do more damage. One could go on an don. You prolly already understand what I mean, but this is just reinforcement, hehe.


As for Denali vs Turban for solo, let's say,

Premise: There is a solo/tanking situation in which marginal 5 evasion > 1% haste
Premise: Denali Bonnet comes with 5 evasion more than turban; turban 1% haste more than denali
Premise: These are the only relevant stats on these pieces we're concerned about for this comparison
Conclusion: There is a situation in which denali > turban

The only thing in question would be the first premise. But I'm pretty sure it's true. So the only thing that matters is using denali in that or those situations, and not others. This is why we build more than one set for soloing or tanking, same as with damage-focused builds.
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#34icebabyisme, Posted: Sep 18 2009 at 4:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You absolutely got it RIGHT, I was so wrong, my hours and hours of personal experience is definitely inferior to your numbers on paper, the gils I did not fire off is such a waste. I will just toss Denali Bonnet and vomit on anyone who uses it solo!
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Denali head is trash.

If you are attacking, Turban is better damage than less haste +3 attack.

If you need evasion, you should be wearing Ohat and swapping in turban for utsu.

Neither are very hard to aquire.
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#36Shakca, Posted: Sep 18 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If your Haste is capped 25%. "Go for it" /Cheer rolf
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You absolutely got it RIGHT, I was so wrong, my hours and hours of personal experience is definitely inferior to your numbers on paper, the gils I did not fire off is such a waste. I will just toss Denali Bonnet and vomit on anyone who uses it solo!

Well, I lied.

sh*t is situational.

Solo is when you need balance damage dealt and damage taken, period.

I am here to offer my opinion to the OP. If you disagree, let's disagree.


Sometimes I like to disagree with facts too and pretend they're opinions. It's okay.
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Did I get that right?


You absolutely got it RIGHT, I was so wrong, my hours and hours of personal experience is definitely inferior to your numbers on paper, the gils I did not fire off is such a waste. I will just toss Denali Bonnet and vomit on anyone who uses it solo!

Well, I lied.

sh*t is situational.

Solo is when you need balance damage dealt and damage taken, period.

I am here to offer my opinion to the OP. If you disagree, let's disagree.


Sometimes I like to disagree with facts too and pretend they're opinions. It's okay.
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The evasion bonus is +5, not +2 (EVA +3 and AGI +4).


Sorry, I only ever cared about the agl/att/haste part for solo TAs. Forgot/never really noticed/lol+3 the evasion on the hat.

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I agree with what you said. In my case, this hat saved me lots bloody bolts and let me cast less Ichi. That's all it matters to me. And it proves to me Denali hat has its use in solo, not a totally useless junk or inv-1.


LOL!! It has saved you only the bolts that hit with the extra racc. (Which a better idea is to use ohat on RA anyway).

I hope you use turban for at least Ni casts... that 1/2 sec off recast would actually save you ichi casts unlike any agl would over evasion cap.

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LOL!! It has saved you only the bolts that hit with the extra racc. (Which a better idea is to use ohat on RA anyway).


How do you know for sure that I don't switch to quite a few pieces of RACC gears (more than just Ohat) when I shoot bolts? Such superior attitude and assumption, I imagine you buff up like a big toad.

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The One and Only Deadgye wrote:
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Did I get that right?


You absolutely got it RIGHT, I was so wrong, my hours and hours of personal experience is definitely inferior to your numbers on paper, the gils I did not fire off is such a waste. I will just toss Denali Bonnet and vomit on anyone who uses it solo!

Well, I lied.

sh*t is situational.

Solo is when you need balance damage dealt and damage taken, period.

I am here to offer my opinion to the OP. If you disagree, let's disagree.


Sometimes I like to disagree with facts too and pretend they're opinions. It's okay.
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How do you know for sure that I don't switch to quite a few pieces of RACC gears (more than just Ohat) when I shoot bolts? Such superior attitude and assumption, I imagine you buff up like a big toad.


For some reason i was under the impression that you do not swap gears while solo. No idea where i got that from.
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I wear turban in merits and big stuff but everything else I use Denali just cause it looks better. Turban does outperform it.
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Only if you somehow don't have a Walahra Turban. I... suppose it's possible, to have a Danali Bonnet and not a Walahra Turban.
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I wear turban in merits and big stuff but everything else I use Denali just cause it looks better. Turban does outperform it.



What game do you play again?

Tarumalphius wrote:
Final Vanity XI: Rise of the Super Models duh.


Edited, Sep 21st 2009 2:11pm by Spurius
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#46 Sep 21 2009 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Spurius wrote:
Tarumalphius wrote:
I wear turban in merits and big stuff but everything else I use Denali just cause it looks better. Turban does outperform it.



What game do you play again?

Tarumalphius wrote:
Final Vanity XI: Rise of the Super Models duh.


Edited, Sep 21st 2009 2:11pm by Spurius
Who gives a sh*t if you wear fasion gear when messing about solo?
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Noodles wrote:
Who gives a sh*t if you wear fasion gear when messing about solo?


I do because I'm usually at max item capacity of USEFUL gear. Space is limited for gear that actually matters so to carry something to wear that is for aesthetic purposes only would require me to leave other better gear behind which to me makes absolutely no sense. In other words gear that is cool looking to me is not how it looks but what stats it has.

Besides I was merely cracking a joke, I like to be geared with the best possible things I have access to and others do not seem to care. Its no sweat off my back if they prefer looking better over performance as I like to give 100% as thf because it is my absolute favorite job to play.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 6:06am by Spurius
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Spurius wrote:
Noodles wrote:
Who gives a sh*t if you wear fasion gear when messing about solo?


I do because I'm usually at max item capacity of USEFUL gear.
So you don't wear fasion gear while solo, why do you care if someone else does? If you'r not interacting with me, then I really don't care what you wear.
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If your Haste is capped 25%. "Go for it" /Cheer rolf
Walahra Turban +5%
Speed belt +6%
Dusk gloves +1 +4%
Homam pants +3%
Homam feet +3%
Rapparee harness +4%

Totaling 25% Haste. Not only it is the cap, it is also the highest obtainable for THF. Turban will still be better than the bonnet.

Edited, Sep 24th 2009 2:20pm by Jevilwolf
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...draining with sambas is kind of like you smack the thing and as you smack blood flies out... normally the blood would just you know fall and be red an what-not, but, with the samba your all whacked out and decide to drink the blood as it flys out. thus not adding MORE damage just taking more advantage of your damage. at least thats my take on it.
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Thf/Drg ftw!
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Noodles wrote:
Thf/Drg ftw!
Wyvern earring? Touche.
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Horst needs a 1 minute, 15 foot doom aura. Get in, get out, or @#%^ing die.
Calmus wrote:
...draining with sambas is kind of like you smack the thing and as you smack blood flies out... normally the blood would just you know fall and be red an what-not, but, with the samba your all whacked out and decide to drink the blood as it flys out. thus not adding MORE damage just taking more advantage of your damage. at least thats my take on it.
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