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#1 Jun 23 2010 at 5:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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With the new cap, WHM/SCH at level 80 gets access to accession. Will you be using accession, or sticking to penury/celerity?


Some benefits of the new SJ:

AoE Stoneskin, Aquaveil(lol), Regen~series, blink, etc.

I believe I will be using my stratagems mostly for stoneskin, what does everyone else plan on using accession for?
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#2 Jun 23 2010 at 6:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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There will be cases to use both I'm sure, but I think most of the time I will be sticking to Penury Curagabombs out of habit unless there is a good reason not to (assuming the entire frontline is taking damage; if it's just one person it would obviously be used for Cure 5/6 instead)

Also, Aquaveil may be more useful now than you may be giving it credit for; it now gives guaranteed protection against interruptions from physical attacks. Only a limited number of times, but still, it has potential useful applications.
#3 Jun 23 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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the (lol) comment was mostly because it was somewhat broken in the last update, as a Scholar I typically stuck to Aquaveil in exp pts since I never pt'd with actual tanks, just DD/nins :)

How do you feel about Accession + Alliance cures? alliance paralynas/silenas too?
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#4 Jun 23 2010 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I'm mostly indifferent; I very rarely join alliances, and in the rare cases I do, the other parties usually have their own mages to take care of them.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2010 9:27am by Fynlar
#5 Jun 23 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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The main thing that comes to mind is Einherjar. I'd use it if I had any charges for things I can't use Esuna on. Like silence and break, if enough people get hit with it. And stoneskin for faf/nidhogg.
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#6 Jun 23 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fynlar wrote:
There will be cases to use both I'm sure, but I think most of the time I will be sticking to Penury Curagabombs out of habit unless there is a good reason not to


SakkaofValefor wrote:
How do you feel about Accession + Alliance cures? alliance paralynas/silenas too?


Actually, what about an Accession + Cure V on your own party instead of a Curaga IV or Benediction? I'm thinking along the lines of that being massively less hate than an actual curaga or bene, which would potentially get you killed in some situations.
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#7 Jun 23 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fynlar wrote:
There will be cases to use both I'm sure, but I think most of the time I will be sticking to Penury Curagabombs out of habit unless there is a good reason not to

I'm with Fyn on this one. I see myself continuing to use Penury a lot, I freakin love that ability. I can see myself using Accession a lot for both Stoneskin & Regens though. AOE Regen is so hot! Situational I suppose, depends on how much AOE is being thrown around.
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#8 Jun 23 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Acession Protect/Shell V-ga on outside parties. It removes the slight inconvenience of having to swap parties (Unless they really need merited shell).

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#9 Jun 23 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, what about an Accession + Cure V on your own party instead of a Curaga IV or Benediction?


I actually forgot about that entirely. >_> That's a definite option if enmity is a concern.
#10 Jun 23 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
Well.. ever sinse esuna came out, I've found myself standing in the middle of my parties almost 100% of the time. Esuna has a nasty recast time, so I usually save my strats for alicrity esuna, or penury cureV.

With accention thrown into the mix, it really depends. If a ninja is tanking, aquaveil might seem like a good idea, however stoneskin might serve the same purpose, but also stop damage. So I can't think of a situation I would cast aquaveil over stoneskin. Maybe if the mob hit hard enough to break a stoneskin in 1~2 hits.

I can't even see myself accensioning regen. I try to be as MP efficient as I can, not casting higher regen tiers than necessary. Maybe if I was sitting on 2 charges.

Accension erase will be nice when esuna is down.
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Actually, what about an Accession + Cure V on your own party instead of a Curaga IV or Benediction? I'm thinking along the lines of that being massively less hate than an actual curaga or bene, which would potentially get you killed in some situations.
Not only that, it's not significantly more expensive than Curaga IV either (270mp+charge vs. 260mp), so even if hate's not a concern, as long as charges aren't either (which means that you're doing the same thing I'm doing and forgetting to use charges for anything other than Addendum: Black to do Dispel :-D), it's probably worth doing.
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#12 Jun 23 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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regen3 for when I dont have the hate to use curagas :/
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#13 Jun 24 2010 at 2:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sadly, doesn't seem Accession works with Cure V or VI.
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#14 Jun 24 2010 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Sadly, doesn't seem Accession works with Cure V or VI.


Way to keep trolling, SE.

Penury Curagabombs it is!
#15 Jun 24 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
Accession protect V so I can drop my 1 merit in protectra V and put it into devotion.
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#16 Jun 24 2010 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Accession protect V so I can drop my 1 merit in protectra V and put it into devotion.


What about when we all start using /RDM, though? :O
#17 Jun 24 2010 at 8:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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No one will notice the 5 Defense difference between the two.
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#18 Jun 25 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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Accession protect V so I can drop my 1 merit in protectra V and put it into devotion.


What about when we all start using /RDM, though? :O



I'll only use it on the tank then. Should I happen to be subbing rdm.
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#19 Jul 07 2010 at 10:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually even tho they're the same, I'm keeping protectra V. IMO, it's not MP efficient to ga protect (since I can only use one strategem, really; I like to save some for if I need it)

HOWEVER, if the other party doesn't have a whm (which happened yesterday in dynamis; they were smaller and had a dnc healer combined with a rdm; we were short on whm) it is worth it. Double the mp to prot/shell the other party vs. 6X the mp is def worth it.

Otherwise, I still need to find uses for it, but I'm sure I will. ^^
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#20 Jul 14 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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Accession Shell V and Accession Protect V will keep me from getting hit by Odin's annoying aoe crap when he uses that dispelga move on my melee party.

Accession Stoneskin on the melee party should be nice when you know an Astral flow or some other aoe dmg is coming, or has a high chance of occuring.

Accession Regen III... mmmm... maybe.

Accession status-effect on your own party or outside party should be nice, especially for outside party (and for status ailments like silence or petrify, where Esuna obviously doesn't work).


Edited, Jul 14th 2010 5:20pm by Fiofio
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