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#1 Jun 17 2010 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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Divine Benison WHM Lv.50 Quickens spellcasting for status ailment recovery magic. Grants a bonus to enmity reduction

Cure VI: WHM Lv.80
Protect V: WHM Lv.76
Shell V: WHM Lv.76
Baramnesra: WHM Lv.78

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#2 Jun 17 2010 at 9:40 AM Rating: Default
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Not trying to be a deppressant here, but i was *kind* of expecting a little more D: I mean sure I <3 Cure VI and Divine Benison looks awesome.. but.. yeah ._. Do we have a use for the tier V single spells other than if we didnt merit that spell? ._.;
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#3 Jun 17 2010 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Accession Shell V other alliance parties without having to drop is nice, I guess?

Edit: Things like Odin's dispell move comes to mind as well, for Shell V. I personally don't like to run back up and reapply. We normally have WHMx2 or WHM & RDM with their assigned PLDs, cast protect and shell 4 back on them.

EditEdit: I'm curious about Divine Bension. My Esuna/Na macro's already have capped haste in gear and capped -ENM. Maybe Accession recast, then?

Edited, Jun 17th 2010 12:33pm by AaralynTrying
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#4 Jun 17 2010 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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I am extremely curious about how they are going to implement this. What will the single target spells be in comparison to our merit spells? Same potency? Less?

And what about Protect? RDM and SCH's just got out Merit spell, and they can AoE them too.

It just seems.. too strange. Perhaps it is time they change our merit spells? Give us Pro/Shell-ra V naturally, and change the merits to "Protet/Shell Effect +X" instead? It just seems silly that we now need to merit something other jobs will get naturally.

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#5 Jun 17 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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This new Holy Deermeat ability sounds like salsa delicioso! :D

Cure VI must be intended for more of the content where you get beefed up HP, body boost and stuff -- or ASA final. 'Cause with ~50% curepot floating around, our CureThreeCannons are still the #1 all-purpose cleaner!

What I'm most excited about now is WHM/DNC, because omigawd bubbles~
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#6 Jun 17 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Wasn't expecting much, got less than I expected. Baramnesra feels pointless without an actual Amnesna and /SCH Accession makes single target tier Vs pointless. I guess the real meat here is how Cure VI works - if it's like V then it'll be awesome; if its like the rest then it's a death wish.
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#7 Jun 17 2010 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Diabolos.Darkcorrosion said:
if im reading it correctly, does this mean whm can lower its hate by useing poisona and stuff? or the bonus of enmity reduction is just the job trait?

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That's an interesting theory. So like.. say cure 6 is the same ENM as 5, but with how much HP it might recover depending on gear, the enmity can add up. And I don't plan on casting any cures in my full -50 ENM set.

So maybe it's like, cast cure 6, gain X amount of enmity, cast a status ailment spell and lose a smaller amount of enmity. Of course, only if there was actually a status to remove. Would be silly to be able to cast high enmity spells and be able to spam poisona to lower it again. That would be broken I'd say.

Then again, I'm most likely being too optimistic. :/

To clarify, I assumed it to be a way for more casual WHMs to reach -ENM cap. Leaving the career WHMs who already have -ENM capped with... what? Fastcast?
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#8 Jun 17 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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Deermeat = No more Yagrush tanking? :(
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#9 Jun 17 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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I am also kinda nervous on how they will make Pro 5 and Shell 5 work. If they are just straight up ike the rest, then we are the first job to have our meritable abilities given to another job.

Personally, i'd like to see straight Phy Damage and magic Damage reduction from out merit categories, each merit is a flat %, the first being say 3% and each additional another 1% capping at 7% Phy damage taken and mag damage taken down. Ofc, this will also make all Whms revamp our current merits...

I just hope they do a good job here, otherwise, there will be a lot of dissapointed whms out there.
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#10 Jun 17 2010 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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They really just need to give Pro/Shell V (Both single and -RA) natively, and change our merits into "Enhances potency of Pro/Shell by X".

PDT for Protect sounds like a good idea. I like it :3
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#11 Jun 17 2010 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I am also kinda nervous on how they will make Pro 5 and Shell 5 work. If they are just straight up ike the rest, then we are the first job to have our meritable abilities given to another job.


False. SE technically gave away THF's Ambush when they made Innin for NIN. In fact, Innin is BETTER than Ambush because not only is the accuracy boost much greater (for most of Innin's duration), it also provides a significant boost to crit rate.

I'm sure there's other examples, but I'm still waking up...


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Deermeat = No more Yagrush tanking? :(


Remember when they killed blink tanking by adding that whole "lose enmity when you lose a shadow" thing?

Yeah, I don't either.

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#12 Jun 17 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I also wonder how this is going to work I already have merits for Pro V and Shell V do I have to buy them for my RDM then even though my WHM has them? Seems odd that SE would release spells that can only be merited. Guess the BLM better watch out cause SCH will have tier II Ancient Magic soon.
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I also wonder how this is going to work I already have merits for Pro V and Shell V do I have to buy them for my RDM then even though my WHM has them?


You don't already have Protect V and Shell V.

You have Protectra V and Shellra V.

Protect/Shell V are presumably going to be scrolls, so yes, you would presumably have to buy them.
#14 Jun 17 2010 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
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Or farm them from level 90 WHM gobs that can banishga IV and holy 2 you while you try and break their 1k stoneskin.
#15 Jun 18 2010 at 12:45 AM Rating: Default
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Why don't SE simply give WHM cure-amnesia!? WHM also need cure-terror. I look forward to next level cap increase.
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#16 Jun 18 2010 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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We might get something to remove Amnesia but if we do, it may simply be at a higher level. That's a pretty powerful ~na to get hold of, well at least it could be if we come up against even more mobs which spam it. So far it's just imps and ladybugs?

I'm nervous about how they are going to deal with merits too.
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#17 Jun 18 2010 at 3:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Remember when they killed blink tanking by adding that whole "lose enmity when you lose a shadow" thing?

Yeah, I don't either.

Oh no worries, I don't actually think Deermeat will be that dramatic.

Honestly I just wanted to say Deermeat again ... Deermeat!

I thought a benison was divine by definition ... so maybe BLMs should get "Cursed Malison" -_-
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#18 Jun 18 2010 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd rather have Divine Malison...

That attack has ruined several of my Shantotto fights...
#19 Jun 18 2010 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Really, i think they should just tack Removal or Amnesia onto Erase and Esuna, i don't really Want another Na spell we are going to have to put on proirity over cures and regens, especially a spell thats not overly Life threatening (barring tanks and their ability to gain hate)

I mean how often are we told "Haste Please" and "Poisona Please" when its really not neccessary, if they make a Amnesina it will be "Amnesina Please" back to back every 5 seconds on Imps on all 5 melees.

I'd be happy with them just adding it to erase and esuna.
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#20 Jun 18 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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^ I had a conversation about that in /shout at WG :D
erase and esuna removing amnesia would help me not use as much macros D:
But esuna might be risky for per say, imps. You can't Sacrifice THEN switch to Misery to esuna the amnesia away, so you'd have to be in range of the imp, risking you the chance of getting silenced and wasting echo drops.
Really, if they'd add a -na spell to it or to erase, it'll both still end up having us to probably have to cast it on every melee or so
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#21 Jun 19 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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#22 Jun 21 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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I dunno if anyone else noticed this as well. On the Job traits section, they didn't list any exhisting traits, ie Whm, based on prior traits, should get Clear Mind 5 at level 80, but its not listed. I guess we'll see later on today or tomorrow what all was not posted in the traits/spells/abilities section.

Very excuted to be out of Level 5 Petrify range for a few levels :D
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#23 Jun 21 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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We won't be able to Hastega.

I am dissapoint.
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#24 Jun 21 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, /SCH can get bent. WHM/RDM is a go!
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#25 Jun 21 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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We won't be able to Hastega.

I am dissapoint.


Why not? Did I miss something?
#26 Jun 21 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Haste is not compatible with Accession.

Why would they do this, I have no clue. It only made our life easier...
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