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Wait, did I see that right?

DMG:49 Delay 340 Occasionally attacks twice?

WANT.

WANTWANTWANTWANTWANT.

That sucker beats an upgraded Mjollnir (which sits, apparently, at DMG: 65 if you do both upgrades) if it'll do the second attack more than about 46% of the time. It beats a regular Mjollnir for 2A rates of 28% or higher.

I foresee quite a bit of hitting a giant crab in its weak points for massive damage in my future.

(EDIT: Yeah, your WS damage is lower. But it's still pretty damn good. And you should be doing more WSes anyway as a result.)

Edited, Mar 23rd 2010 4:53pm by MDenham

Yea the dmg 49/ocl attacks twice definitely looks like the best of the final outcomes.

Ok, so the frightning part is the last upgrade for the Dmg 49 Occ Atk 2 times..

The Shell, from the VNM tier 3, meaning we need to kill is 10 times max. Wiki says drops 1-2 shells, you need to kill the tier 1 and 2 to open up tier 3.

This will be the hardest part, looks like we need a full party fo kill this mob, however, thankfully, it looks like the Least painful of the VNM 3 mobs ~.~

These are nice but I am not sure I want ot give up what I have.

Deae Gratia
Purgatory Mace

For DD whm I have my DD acc gear. Potent/Chivalrous/Rajas/angels (acp with +5acc) Ohat.

"I was originally thinking the 57 is the way to go but I think now that 49 is probably better."

For someone like me with no K-club, wouldn´t be the way to go to get both, with fully upgraded Culacula as main (for high WS dd) and Goedendag sub for fast TP gain ?

Since the upgrading process for both would take some time, after finishing Culacula i´d probably sub Perdu with its acc5 att14 (and amazing DPS) as i imagine both would make a good combo. I mean, high base dd and multi-hit is all fine, but we loose all the nice acc, att etc. mods from the usual suspects.

All in all i have to say my whm has not been that excited for years - a club with a (not-upgraded-)Mjolnir dmg rating is something i´m looking forward to a lot.

Also, the "group-gathering" effect of this quest is amazing; Roaming the highlands for Stray Mary in an alliance of white mages was quite nice. And it makes the following way much easier and entertaining, since i´m standing with the same people in Sea Serpent Grotto now.

Ah, that's very good to know. Sounds like the Culacula is the way to go for me then! Thanks!

With the KC's 5:15:25:25:15:10:3:2 in mind, that means 95% of the time, you will only get 1-6 offhand swings.

(allowing for two hits on mainhand)

So mainhanding things like Joytoy, or the new Joymaul for WHM, isn't really a TP-gain detriment! It will increase your dot, and in fact, if my math/thinking is right, it actually improves your TP gain with KC. >.>

Which almost makes me want to use Joymaul/KC instead of Mjollnir/KC. (-_-;)

Can someone mathishly verify this for me? Are DMG 49 and DMG 65 far enough apart?

EDIT: I think mine would be DMG 77 vs. DMG 93 during Hexa Strike (STR=97, MND=76), if that helps...

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Edited, Mar 25th 2010 1:41pm by RyaWHM

Weapons last week:
I would rather you had Seawolf in place of Sea Robber, but depending on what you're doing (normal PT duties @ frontline?) Martial Wand could win anyway; it will if you boon a lot. Besides, for all I know, you could be 1/1 on robber, and 0/50 on wolf. -_-

Weapons this week:
Work on getting the 57/310 and the 49/340 OAT we're discussing, lol >.>

Neck:
PCC of course, or 2nd place: Prudence

Earring:
Brutal, or 2nd place: Hollow, or Diabolos where it works :)

Other:
Lastly, Rajas might save you a round of swings, but I can't handle the math on that right now. Usually it is recommended for 1-hand jobs to use Rajas (even above Toreador!), unless you overflow TP past 100 often (KC and such).

I hope that helps! :D

Progress! /clap Congrats!

I would still use Martial if you're booning regularly (campaign? and main-healing from front)

Hexa legs: Volunteer's Brais, for sure!

Other than that, you can probably swap some ACC for STR (etc) because your Hexa has ~444 accuracy, which should cap most things a WHM will fight. For example:

Hands: AF (eventually +1)
Rings: Rajas/STR
Belt: Potent may outperform Virtuoso if the STR raises your DMG
Feet: Marine may outperform Marduk (see below...)

...and these should still leave you with ~425 accuracy, but give you +21 STR, +2.5 attack, and -13 MND ... or +18 STR and +1 attack if you keep Marduk.

Marine vs. Marduk:

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Edited, Mar 25th 2010 2:39pm by RyaWHM

"Also, so is that chart wrong? It says att+15, is it supposed to be dmg+15 for the final upgrade?"

I mentioned that allready a few posts above yours. Niknar corrected the list, but the chart is still wrong, and should be changed so no one gets confused any more.

This may be vain... but I suggest haste/acc for one main reason: Saio + Turban looks hideous with most WHM outfits, but looks totally awesome with the ASA pants. I have Blessed Trousers +1 and still chose to give up 1% haste for the ASA pants to gain a few extra accuracy and look badass while I bludgeon things. (Well actually, I'm only giving up about 0.3% haste, which made it that much easier...)

As for Flame Rings, I would think Aqua are better (3 less STR, but 7 more MND), but honestly I use the Kusha/Lava for both TP and for Hexa. I only swap rings for Boon.

Yeah I want Flame/Light gorgets and working on them, jsut got snow and need more organs.

I want the Rev Mail but can't find any fights and last one i went on i got cheated out of my pop.

...and the Triumph only until you get a Strigoi Ring, right? :-)

Trying to spawn Urd now.

Has anyone expirience with low-maning it? If so it would be nice if you could share.

I read that rdm + thf with "flee-dodging" the TP spamm can duo in 20 - 30 minutes.


We´re gonna try later today, i will report back.

edit: nvm, killed it easily with 6-10 people.

Edited, Mar 27th 2010 9:29pm by Mosel

Can you give any incite on strategies and possible set ups for Urd, Mosel?

Ok that makes me feel a lot better about killing it. Doesn't seem to bad, especially considering the following;

Some people in ls wanted to kill Skuld and we ended up 5 manned it rdm/whm whm/sch rdm/nin (tank) thf/nin (dd) whm/nin (dd, me). Long fight but we won, no drop. If we can low man that hell nm I don't see Urd being very troublesome.

http://static.ffxiah.com/images/ss/mid/LogicK7lJ5O4MX3Js.png

Well, you were close!

Gonna use it for whm and sch enfeebling but relevant in MYSTIC BOON SET JUST GOT BETTER

/creams

Congretulations! :)

4 more krab shells for OAT club @.@

WHM/BST was awesome for killing saplings in Meriphataud_S using lynx pets. For ladybugs, it was ok, but the best pets to use there were also ladybugs, so a little slower. Thankfully a couple people came out to help me with ladybugs, and it only ended up taking a couple hours.

Doing other crap before I grind more EP mobs for cure potency+15% staff...

Just started on my Urd trial for Culacula, and all I can say is... WHM/NIN. Those faeries are a major headache. The reason I suggest WHM/NIN is because both Urd and Skuld (the two T2 NMs in these areas) reset hate with their SP20 move (the special move VNMs do every ~20%).

On Urd, you can work it with WHM/SCH because along with resetting hate, she does four weaponskills in a row, the last two of which are nasty AOEs. It deals a ton of damage, which combined with the hate reset can lead to the healers pulling hate, but it also means the tank can drop a Cure IV for a nice hate spike too. If the tank does a Cure IV, you can get away with a Cure V on the more dire-looking DD plus a Cure III on the next candidate without even thinking about hate. Shortly after, another Cure V should be ready. Just be careful with Cure IV during that time and you should be ok.

Skuld is another story, its SP20 is a hate reset plus a sequence of about four AOE ailment moves, including almost always at least one Paralyga, but no damage. Thus, your tank can't just drop a Cure IV for a quick spike, they'll be lucky if they can even use their normal hate tools while Paralyzed, Slowed, etc... (yes her Slowga overwrites Haste). So while all the healers are removing various ailments from the disabled tank & melees, the freshly-hate-resetted NM is going to be on them like stink on sh*t, and probably will still be casting AOE ailments on the mages now too. I dunno, maybe this will be less of a problem for people without Yagrush, but every single time Skuld did a hate reset I ended up tanking for a while after casting Paralynaga & Erasega several times. It was either that, or let the members get ailed like crazy and pray the tank lands some hate moves through paralyze & slow before casting the ailment removal stuff, but it seems easier just to /NIN and not worry about pulling hate for that time. Oh yeah, she also likes to sneak in tier IV nukes between ailments, so be FAST with your Utsusemi if you pull hate during these SP20 phases. Oh yeah, and because she casts so many AOE ailments, she usually has a few repeats in there, so I suggest not responding to the first two or so that she casts. If you jump the gun, you will just get hate before she finishes, and end up getting ailments cast on YOU instead. Let her get most of the way done before you start removing ailments, then make sure your tank starts spamming hate tools as soon as humanly possible.

Of course, you don't need to kill Skuld for the trial, but you don't get to pick which one pops so you really need to plan for both. Besides, how else you gonna get that fast cast cape?

You suck. Give me that.

:-D

Actually, I'm kind of going back on hiatus as far as playing because I don't have time to play and catch up on sleep. :-/