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#1 Oct 27 2009 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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As some of the other jobs who have their lil solo accomplishment threads, why can't we...

So I'll kick it off...

Shiva - Solo WHM/RDM
I was doing my SMN AF stuff so figured I'd just do all the fights WHM/RDM.... So whilst I was in Fei'Yin I'd pay Shiva a visit (as you do).

After the SMN fight I entered the BC for Shiva, in my infinite wisdom (not to mention intelligence) this being my first attempt at solo and well over a year since having fought an avatar go in on Ice Day. After having attacked I noticed this potential problem, but thought what the hell... I got RR3 and a full buffer... at worst I'll lose 5k.

I had no drinks or meds with me either, and the only food I had was meat mithkabobs, so i ate one.

Fight went supprisingly well, although i think shiva got a bit grumpy towards the end. Took me 12m40secs no 2hr used.

One thing if you do attempt this... Auspice is pointless, go with the en-spell, capped shield certainly helps with a genbu shield and a perdu wand (or relic i suppose would be one better). Mystic Boon is a must have, no way i could have done this without some MP meds/drink.


Not major in the grand scheme of things, but I thought was something to make people maybe think twice about the usefulness of WHM/RDM.

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#2 Oct 27 2009 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I actually whip out /RDM for avatar fights as WHM. Phalanx/Enspells help a lot. Phalanx reduces damage twice from their attacks, once from the physical damage and once from their enspell damage, so it's very effective.

The day hardly matters for avatar fights. I've gotten punked by Diamond Dust several times on Firesday and I've not even had my Stoneskin broken by it on Icedays. Being able to consistently survive Astral Flow even in the case of a fully unresisted attack (which is always possible no matter how high your Barspell/elemental resistance is) depends on having a good +HP/Mdef set.
#3 Oct 27 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Reactivated, regeared WHM, and got 30k limit points on my first day back. I'm working on capping my club skill (currently 244) in the Tree, probably until I get bored and look for an endgame LS.

Edited, Oct 27th 2009 7:31pm by Kirby
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#4 Oct 29 2009 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Do yourself a big favour, if you got a genbu shield do whm/rdm and solo DC/EM crabs for your club skillups, capped shield skill is such a huge pro, that is you can skill your shield up alongside skilling club :)

Edited, Oct 29th 2009 4:24pm by Murzade
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#5 Oct 29 2009 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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Shield is capped thanks to 75PLD Smiley: thumbsup, just need to work on club sometime. It can get boring if no one is online to talk to Smiley: lol

I guess I could be skilling up until 269 on PLD, but I like having RR3, and Repose just in case Smiley: tongue

Edited, Oct 29th 2009 3:33pm by Kirby
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#6 Oct 29 2009 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
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I recently did a long skilling session on PLD vs Steelshells, one of the weapons I capped was Club. Use /DNC and it's cake :D

WHM might be faster up until 256 though, due to things like Haste spell, more Haste gear, and quicker clubs.
#7 Oct 29 2009 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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Heh, makes me wish I had a Kraken club to borrow. I was still playing around with the new WHM spells and abilities, but I kinda got the hang of it.
Haste is definetly one of the determining factors, as well as the acc+ from Auspice. I'll probably just switch it up and head out on WHM or PLD depending on my mood.

WHM Ass-kicking mode, or PLD Shield-bashing mode. Tough decisions for me tomorrow.

Edited, Oct 29th 2009 8:49pm by Kirby
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#8 Oct 30 2009 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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Two very fun accomplishments for me:

- While main healing a merit PT (all cures/hastes), I still got 18% damage on the parse!

- Switching my Einherjar (non-odin) job from WHM/SCH to WHM/NIN, booning for MP

They represent victory in a few ways -- not only that I have optimized my melee gear pretty well to my liking, but knowing how to function on the front lines while still covering ALL duties, is a big deal!

It's so fun and rewarding, plus it contributes "free" damage to my groups :)

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#9 Oct 30 2009 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
- While main healing a merit PT (all cures/hastes), I still got 18% damage on the parse!


It might represent victory to you, but to me that represents sheer and utter failure on the part of the melees you were partying with =/
#10 Oct 30 2009 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Um, but why? We made roughly 28k/hr which is fine by my standards...

There's no way to tell for sure just from that...you'd hafta know the others' stats and all that. They were good players, it was not just some random pickup group...

Now, if you want an example that does indicate failure of others:

I had one PT where I got 35% against two other melee... before I had Gullintani. I did not list it in my previous post, because it didn't feel like much of a victory (like what you said). They were just "easy to beat" I guess. :P

Similarly, how much % does a COR have to contribute, to indicate bad melee? 10%? 15%? (here's a hint, it varies^^)

Edited, Oct 30th 2009 7:04pm by RyaWHM
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level 52 and 6/6 artifact 1 gear in 5 hours, was actually kinda fun!
#12 Oct 30 2009 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Assuming your party had 4 other melees in it which is pretty much the norm nowadays, you were acting as a 5th "melee" yet were doing nearly an even share (one fifth) of the total damage. That is indicative a rather pathetic showing for the other melee, especially considering the fact that there are many other duties that a WHM should be performing (Hastes, Dia on every mob, etc.) that will be cutting into his meleeing time and therefore his share of the damage. I was rather hasty to jumping to the conclusion of how many other melees were in the party, there could have been 3, but even then, if I were one of the melees in that bunch I would be feeling rather embarrassed if a WHM were able to parse that high.

Damage percentages have little to nothing to do with XP rate (whether your party did 5000 damage or 5 million damage in an hour, the total damage of your party is still going to total up to 100%), so I'm not sure why you brought that up.

Edited, Oct 31st 2009 2:05am by Fynlar
#13 Oct 31 2009 at 2:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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If we'd been making 10k/hr, that by itself would indicate bad players. So I was just throwing it in, to support that we were a good level-headed bunch.

It was either:

3xDD, 2xBRD, WHM
or
3xDD, BRD, COR, WHM


(more common/successful than 4xDD, in my experience)

So assuming they did an even split of the remaining 82%, that's 27.3% each. That's 50% more damage share than me, each! (and I only spend 15~20% of my time casting usually)

I still wanna know what you conclude from COR damage. Does 10% mean the DD's are bad? 15%?

What if the DD's are perfect, and the WHM is perfect?
-- how much % should DD's get, how much % should WHM get?

What if all four are totally gimpy?
-- how much % should DD's get, how much % should WHM get?


^^^^Are the ratios of DD:DD:DD:WHM the same in both of those cases? Because it seems like you have some strong guidelines figured out in your head ... and I wanna know what they are!

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- If a WHM/SCH with no merits, TPing in casting gear, decides to melee while main healing (using boon to keep up, or whatever), and he's using, I dunno, Darksteel Maul.

If that WHM gets 18% share, then that's a different story. I would have concerns about the DD's...

- But I'm on stage 4 relic, offhand Kraken, and make every effort to maximize my gear for melee (as silly as that is) ...

So there's a difference when I get 18%, compared to the unmerited, casting gear WHM/SCH getting 18%.

Doesn't necessarily mean the DD's were bad!^^

(in fact, some people might see it as me doing well, instead of DD's doing badly ... but that's just crazy-talk, lol)
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#14 Oct 31 2009 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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#15 Oct 31 2009 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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RyaWHM wrote:
I still wanna know what you conclude from COR damage. Does 10% mean the DD's are bad? 15%?

Well, since you pointed out that one person's share in a parse doesn't necessarily reflect how good the other people in the party are, I guess it would be dependant on how good the COR is, as well.

However... 10% from a COR would indicate a pretty crappy COR, no matter how good the DDs are. Unless, of course, the COR is pulling, in which case they will probably parse <1%.
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Chew is being a lot more level-headed regarding the whole issue, which is strange because he's probably drunk.
#16 Oct 31 2009 at 2:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Picked up an Aslan cape finally. Gotta redo macros now I guess, I've full timed Errant cape my entire WHM career since I dinged into it. Aslan for cure V, errant for IV and lower, aslan for enfeebles is what I'm thinking.
#17 Oct 31 2009 at 4:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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(sorry chewzer, I meant I wanna know what Fyn concludes, specifically -- but yeah, seems you got my point^^)

My latest accomplishment:

Successfully defending one of my own personal accomplishments, against the unexpected criticism of a fellow WHM ... in a positive and uplifting happy candy rainbow teddybear cookie accomplishment thread. xD

Logiks:

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Fun cape for MND stuffs, and without having to pay the price for Prism or Ixion!
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#18 Oct 31 2009 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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Indeed. I dont know why exactly but I've always disliked rainbow/prism. Just something about them, I've never bought one. I avoided Ixion because for 2-3m, my sch better get some use out of it, and sch is depressingly absent from Ixy's job list. I've held out for aslan/gleemans and I'm happy with them. Kinda sad my errant is getting somewhat replaced though, I love that cape, it was my first piece of endgame ish whm gear I was proud of.


I also went 1/1 on swift belt like a month ago and with the addition of marduk crackows before that, my whm/nin is a happy camper. I usually use seawolf/robber depending on mob and offhand perdu. I dont parse being on 360 but I merit with LS on occasion and its awesome closing light with a 1k hexa on greater birds and watching it go from 40% to dead because of a lolwhm ws.

Edited, Oct 31st 2009 5:53pm by Logiks
#19 Oct 31 2009 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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I am not trying to attack your accomplishment, I'm merely saying that as another melee I would look at the fact a WHM was able to parse so high as an embarrassment. Maybe having BRD+BRD or BRD+COR helps even things out and helps the WHM's damage more than everyone else, I don't know.

Also, I have no idea about COR damage; I can't even remember the last time I did a meripo with a COR. CORs are a lot rarer than BRDs, "/sea all cor" usually returns a result in the 20s on my server, and I've already considered BRDs to be hard to find (or at least hard to invite before they get snatched up by someone else). I have never had a 2xBRD or BRD+COR party, either.
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Accomplishments I thought was never even possible that I managed to do as WHM melee:

Solo chaining the KRT zone monsters (skellies and hatis).

Solo chaining the Dragon Aery monsters (bark tarantulas and spongeflies).

Solo chaining then breaking 2k Hexastrike on any xp/merit type mobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJzWFXanhyo



But still wanted to accomplish other stuff but too bad my character is retired already. ;;

Solo Fenrir
Solo a rampart floor on salvage as WHM/NIN
Solo "Shadow of the Mind" ISNM as WHM.
Solo some ENM as WHM

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