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#1 May 19 2011 at 4:36 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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I'm starting up a new World of Warcraft macros guide at WoWMacrosGuide.com

I play a frost mage as my main and I have some killer macros for mages on there that you might like. Please let me know if you can think of any other macros you would like to see on there. We also have macros for all other classes. But I think you will again, the mage macros are the best :-)

Edited, May 27th 2011 6:42am by KyndFellow
#2 May 19 2011 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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PSA: As always, you click links from brand new posters at your own risk. I know I for one would not consider clicking said link without an admin's saying that it's benign.

It would be safer and you'd get a lot more support from myself and others, OP, if you instead made a guide and posted it here.
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#3 May 19 2011 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be an OCDick and point out that to be grammatically correct, it should be WoWMacroguide, not Macros.
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#4 May 20 2011 at 2:17 AM Rating: Default
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Thanks for getting back to me, guys. Anyway, please let me know if you can think of any extra macros you'd like to see on there. The mage macros are the best so far. I hope you like it :-)
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Pretty solid macros. Site itself is harmless, there are only some minor ads for hardware (keyboards, pads, etc.).

Edit: Ghostery found three data collectors on the site, Wordpress stats, Google analytics and Google adsense, none of which would compromise your computer. They seem to just gather stats such as your IP, your browser type and your language preferences. In other words, the site is safe.

Edited, May 30th 2011 1:24pm by Mazra
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Mazra wrote:
Pretty solid macros. Site itself is harmless, there are only some minor ads for hardware (keyboards, pads, etc.).

Edit: Ghostery found three data collectors on the site, Wordpress stats, Google analytics and Google adsense, none of which would compromise your computer. They seem to just gather stats such as your IP, your browser type and your language preferences. In other words, the site is safe.
He made an **** of himself in my guide thread up there and so I at least am mostly ignoring the guy. Thanks for confirming the safety, though.

Edited, May 30th 2011 5:54am by Poldaran
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#7KyndFellow, Posted: Jun 04 2011 at 12:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Mazra, thanks for the kind words. Yes, you can tell WoW Macros Guide uses Adsense and Amazon.com as our sponsors by looking at the ads on there. The Privacy Policy also discusses this for anyone interested in that sort of thing. I don't know what the other lady meant about me saying something she didn't like on her "guide". I doubt she could make a site like this. I have never even seen her before. Anyway, please let me know if anyone would like me to post any new macros on http://wowmacrosguide.com
#8 Jun 04 2011 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Polderan could probably outdo your website in a day if I'm remembering his previous guides correctly. Or was that Anobix? Either way, extending hostilities with LONG term members and hearty contributors is NOT a good way to get your start as a beloved member of the community.
You're already in brackish water with the spamming of your terrible website.
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#9 Jun 05 2011 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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jaysgsl wrote:
Polderan could probably outdo your website in a day if I'm remembering his previous guides correctly.
Filterspawn made an original guide. Anobix and I expanded on it heavily during late TBC(as I recall) and WotLK.

And then there was the time I went really spreadsheet happy as TBC was approaching.

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Either way, extending hostilities with LONG term members and hearty contributors is NOT a good way to get your start as a beloved member of the community. You're already in brackish water with the spamming of your terrible website.
You know, if this person was contributing more to discussions here and contributing to the site as a whole instead of just pimping another site and claiming to know the devs, I'd have no problems with it, myself. However, s/he has done nothing aside from pimping said guide. Even that attempt to "warn" us about using clickbank purchased guides was nothing more than a pretext for more attempts to advertise that **** macro guide.

And that's all I'm going to say about this matter. I will continue rating down advertising attempts, however, unless an admin decides that I need to cut it out.

Edited, Jun 5th 2011 6:03am by Poldaran
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#10 Jun 05 2011 at 6:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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For a person making a site all about WoW Macros, he does seem to not know much about how they work in WoW. Take this gem, for example.

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Here is such a macro with a list of instant casts that commands to dismount if mounted, target nearest enemy if in range, cast Ice Lance first if available, cast Ice Barrier second if available, cast Flame Orb third if available:
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/dismount [mounted]
/startattack
/petdefensive
/cast Ice Lance
/cast Ice Barrier
/cast Flame Orb


Macros in RIFT work like that, where if the first command can't trigger, it will cascade to the next one, then the next one, etc. In WoW it will just stop at Ice Lance, try to cast it, and stop. Only commands off the GCD can trigger in a macro with a single command (or castsequence) on the GCD.

I could write better macros in an afternoon, and I only have 5 classes in the 80s (DK, Warrior, Druid, Shammy, and Warlock).

Edit for teh lulz: Arcane mages apparently don't have a spell they can cast while moving.
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Light Attack (Arcane Mage)

A drawback of the arcane mage is that it lacks a spell to attack with while moving. So the above attack while escaping tactic doesn’t apply. But the arcane mage has strong close combat AoE with Arcane Explosion and good mana conservation to compensate.


Edited, Jun 5th 2011 8:30am by AstarintheDruid
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AstarintheDruid wrote:
Edit for teh lulz: Arcane mages apparently don't have a spell they can cast while moving.
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Light Attack (Arcane Mage)

A drawback of the arcane mage is that it lacks a spell to attack with while moving. So the above attack while escaping tactic doesn’t apply. But the arcane mage has strong close combat AoE with Arcane Explosion and good mana conservation to compensate.


Edited, Jun 5th 2011 8:30am by AstarintheDruid
Now I regret not visiting the site myself. Apparently it's a comedy site, and is also apparently freaking comedic gold. Smiley: laugh
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#12 Jun 05 2011 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Hahahahaha, HALF tempted to go there to rip up more stuff he has, but, that would take effort.
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#13 Jun 15 2011 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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AstarintheDruid wrote:
Macros in RIFT work like that, where if the first command can't trigger, it will cascade to the next one, then the next one, etc. In WoW it will just stop at Ice Lance, try to cast it, and stop. Only commands off the GCD can trigger in a macro with a single command (or castsequence) on the GCD.


I was under the assumption that if a command in the macro (i.e. /cast Ice Barrier) was on cooldown, the macro would continue on to the next. I get that it would stop at Ice Lance, since it doesn't have a cooldown (and thus should be last if anything), but I must admit, I thought it would skip errors.

If not then yes, a lot of those macros would not work. You'd need a /castsequence or similar, but an Ice Lance + Ice Barrier cast sequence would be long. Like, super long. Flame Orb has a 1-minute cooldown, Ice Lance is instant (1.5-second cooldown).

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=10 Flame Orb, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance, Ice Lance

It would probably not go any further (if even this far), and that's just 21 seconds of Ice Lance spam. There's still 35.5 seconds left until Flame Orb comes off cooldown. Smiley: frown

Edited, Jun 15th 2011 10:49pm by Mazra
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Looking back, I could have written that better. Rift steps through a macro sequentially until it finds something it can cast or gets to the end of the macro. I forget how it processes spells off the GCD, but I think it treats them like normal spells, so you have to hit the macro twice to get a CD plus a spell. WoW macros try to use every ability at once, so only the first ability on the GCD will go off, even if it's on it's own CD. I haven't messed with my macros in a while, so I did this to test it on my DK.

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/cast Pillar of Frost
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Lichborne
/cast Horn of Winter
/cast Path of Frost

The first three are off the GCD, so they go off if they're up. Then it tries to cast Horn of Winter, and even when HoW is on CD it won't cast Path of Frost.
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#15 Jun 16 2011 at 2:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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It depends on the type of spell, not sure if there's some fancy category for them and I can't be bothered to look, but basically something like this will work:

/use 13
/use 14
/cast Arcane Power
/cast Arcane Blast

Even if your trinkets and Arcane Power are on cooldown it will still cast Arcane Blast (and spam you with error messages unless you add a little more code).

The following will get stuck:

/cast Arcane Missiles
/cast Arcane Blast

If Arcane Missiles is not available it will not skip to the next spell (same for spells like Lava Burst which are cooldown rather than proc based). I'm sure there used to be a warrior attack which was off the GCD but still wouldn't skip in a macro if it was unavailable, can't remember the name though.

I miss trying to make complicated macros, I just don't seem to have as much use for them in this expansion as in previous ones :( Or it could be that I'm better at making macros so don't try to do the impossible as often any more.

Any idea if

/cast Presence of Mind
/cast Arcane Blast

works on the move? On my healers Nature's Swiftness + heal works if I'm standing still, but if I'm moving I have to press it twice (guessing it doesn't realise in time that it should be instant)
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AP, PoM, Nature's Swiftness, trinkets and racial abilities, and most other short-term buff spells are off the global cool-down. You can put as many off-GCD abilities into a macro as you can fit (255 characters).
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So in the case of Ice Lance and Ice Barrier, you'd need:

/cast Ice Barrier; Ice Lance

Right? If available, cast Ice Barrier, otherwise Ice Lance?
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Mazra wrote:
So in the case of Ice Lance and Ice Barrier, you'd need:

/cast Ice Barrier; Ice Lance

Right? If available, cast Ice Barrier, otherwise Ice Lance?


That would only work if Ice Barrier was off the GCD, and it isn't (as far as I know). The only way multiple spells that trigger a GCD can work in the same macro is with a castsequence or with different modifiers (alt = fireball, shift = pyroblast, ctrl = scorch, etc).
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Ah, I thought the semi-colon worked as an 'if not, then' regardless of modifiers or not.

Edited, Jun 19th 2011 1:43am by Mazra
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I think for a semi-colon you need some sort of condition checking (so a modifier key, or needing a friendly target), if the condition is not met then it will move onto the next spell. If the conditions for the spell are met it will try to cast it regardless of if it's on cooldown.

For example:
/cast [@player] Heal; Smite will always attempt to cast Heal on yourself, it will never try to smite anything (because you are always available as a target for heal).
/cast [help] Heal; Smite will heal your target if it is friendly, otherwise it will cast smite.
or /cast [harm] Smite; Heal will cast smite if you have an enemy targeted or otherwise cast heal.

Stuff that is on the GCD triggers a delay even if it is on cooldown (something to do with the GCD being activated and the deactivated once the server registers that you can't cast the spell), so if it fails to cast the first spell because it is on cooldown it won't move on to the next spell because at the time it's working out if you can cast that it thinks it has the first spell in progress so cancels the second spell.
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It's not just server-side mechanics, though. Blizzard has gone out of their way to break things like the old warrior /castrandom macro that would go through all your (useful) strikes until it found one off CD or a reactionary that proc'd.
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AstarintheDruid wrote:
It's not just server-side mechanics, though. Blizzard has gone out of their way to break things like the old warrior /castrandom macro that would go through all your (useful) strikes until it found one off CD or a reactionary that proc'd.


Warriors have it easy. They just pop Enrage and win.

Old references are old, but gold.

Edited, Jun 21st 2011 4:26am by Mazra
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