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#1 Jan 10 2011 at 2:00 AM Rating: Good
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While currently only 336, a mix of 346 and 333 I am not seeing a lot of hit percent on the gear. I've reforged nearly every thing I can to increase it, and even by my calculation, with the combination of the rest of the 346 JP gear, the 3 reputaion epics and aquired 346 dungeon pieces, I will still be well under the 17% hit cap for raiding.

What is the best way to ensure I hit the cap? Will reforging be the key? Gems? Or am I so bad at math that I am not seeing properly the hit that my future gear will provide?

I'll link my mage here, http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/moonglade/magil/advanced

I still have a couple of greens, and one blue at the same ilvl of 318. I am running DM with no success to grab cookies wand, Venessa's armband.. and emberstone just for a 346 staff upgrade.

I have a excel database for all available gear, so I know what I am after, I am just not seeing the hit represented properly in the upgrades.

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 3:05am by Magilicotti
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#2 Jan 10 2011 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
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From Pold, in another thread:
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I think the Elitist Jerks fire thread said to shoot for it, but not to expect to actually hit it in the first tier of raid gear.

Obviously this applies across all three specs, since there's no +hit talents any more.
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#3 Jan 10 2011 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
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I agree and just learned as much from a disscussion with a raiding Mage. He's at just under 15%. He could hit it, but does not want to reforge and lose crit. So we should not worry about the cap with tier 11 is the census.
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#4 Jan 10 2011 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good
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About the only thing I can see on your gear that would push you any closer is a hit enchant on your bracers and boots(which I'm sure you've already spreadsheeted, just mentioning it in case you haven't).

That said, yeah, try for it, but don't sweat it if you don't quite reach it. Just think of it as leaving room for a Draenei's aura to be useful(assuming it's still an aura, as I haven't looked).
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#5 Jan 10 2011 at 4:31 AM Rating: Good
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Its a load off my mind, because our raid leader was saying must be capped hit to raid, so hopefully I have enough to show that it's a goal, but not needed at this point.

I do know of the enchant, not applied with the 318 one I have... as soon as I get Venessa to drop the wristgaurd I'll do it. Theres another trinket from Tol Barad I can get, but didn't want to load my trinkets with just hit, as I already have Anhuur's drop. Well, still I will push forward.

I think my raid leader was on me because when I told him I'd drop resto druid for mage, as they had the heals, I had not inspected my mage thoughly enough, and we did the Conclave in TotFW. I was at 5.30 hit for it >.> We had a laugh but we were wondering why our Rohash group was struggling to bring him down in the orderly fasion.
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#6 Jan 10 2011 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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Out of curiosity, what's your hit going to look like in your BiS gear, assuming you reforge weaker stats(crit and haste for Arcane, iirc) to hit?
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#7 Jan 10 2011 at 7:14 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's your hit going to look like in your BiS gear, assuming you reforge weaker stats(crit and haste for Arcane, iirc) to hit?


well reforging mastery, I would rather reforge than crit. Haste can be rebalanced via the enchants from boots and gloves? But you are right in thinking if I focus on hit, and nothing else, I could hit more. Arcane is just a tree, and weak in raiding as the numbers go. I tend to stick to my guns on it, but until Blizzard does something, which is possible soon, it won't be above fire or frost. Fine for such encounters like Magmaw, where frost is desired.

Do want to reforge crit? Heck no... but I need to gain hit, and such stats do need to take a dive. I would rahter mastery take the hit than crit, if possible.

If you are asking for the math, I haven't infront of me, but you can easily do... If I were not in a class, I would add it up, but I see what you mean.

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 8:16am by Magilicotti

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 8:16am by Magilicotti
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#8 Jan 10 2011 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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Magilicotti wrote:
well reforging mastery, I would rather reforge than crit.
As arcane? Mastery's the bread and butter of that spec.
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#9 Jan 10 2011 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Magilicotti wrote:
well reforging mastery, I would rather reforge than crit.
As arcane? Mastery's the bread and butter of that spec.


Says the concerned of a starved hit speced mage. noted Poldaran, noted.
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#10 Jan 11 2011 at 1:47 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I got bored and decided to see what my planned pre-raid gear set looks like as far as hit, and here's what I ended up with. Considering I had to also gear for the Haste soft cap(as fire), you could probably do even better.

Gear Alone
1095

Gems
3 Yellow Sockets - 3x Piercing Dream Emerald(60)
3 Red Gems - 3x Brilliant Chimera's Eye
4 Blue Sockets - 3x Veiled Demonseye(60), 1x Rigid Ocean Sapphire(40)

Total: 160


Reforging
Mastery -> Hit: 76
Haste -> Hit: 81

Total: 157

Enchants
50

Grand Total: 1462/1742

Since that's built to my tastes and not 100% to max out ability to cap, that's not too bad, really. Actually, since that's ignoring trinket slots(I'm still on the fence about the Stump), it wouldn't be nearly as hard as I was expecting to cap out. I take back what I said. Go for it, IMO.

Edited, Jan 11th 2011 12:48am by Poldaran
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#11 Jan 12 2011 at 12:36 PM Rating: Default
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It is possible to get hit capped and it would be advised to be hit capped as it gives a Mage the most dps boost. You miss a spell that is a dps lost because you miss the spell and the casting of that spell. Reforge everything you can get and gem for it green gems have crit/hit, haste/hit, and mastery/hit gems. It isn't hard to get hit capped but hit cap is very needed as the fights become very mobile for some of them and they have strict enrage timers.
#12 Jan 12 2011 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Alright, Schatten, as a New Mexican on a board with two of us already, you know we have to ask which part you hail from.
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#13 Jan 12 2011 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Not only another New Mexican, but another New Mexican in the Mage sexion?
You an Aggie or a Lobo, pal?
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jaysgsl wrote:
Not only another New Mexican, but another New Mexican in the Mage sexion?
I know, right? Our state is heavily represented on this class board.
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#15 Jan 12 2011 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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It is the land of Enchantment....
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jaysgsl wrote:
It is the land of Enchantment....
We should take Sandal from DA: O as the mascot of our state.


And I'm gonna go get some sleep before I further perpetuate this derail I started.
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#18 Jan 13 2011 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Alright, Schatten, as a New Mexican on a board with two of us already, you know we have to ask which part you hail from.


I'm from the Carlsbad area, and I'm neither Aggie or Lobo, but a Greyhound.
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schattensoldat wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Alright, Schatten, as a New Mexican on a board with two of us already, you know we have to ask which part you hail from.


I'm from the Carlsbad area, and I'm neither Aggie or Lobo, but a Greyhound.
That's where I was born.

Edit: Also, Greyhound? I've never heard of a team down there by that name. I take it that's some kind of joke I don't know?

Edited, Jan 13th 2011 1:46pm by Poldaran
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#20 Jan 13 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
schattensoldat wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Alright, Schatten, as a New Mexican on a board with two of us already, you know we have to ask which part you hail from.


I'm from the Carlsbad area, and I'm neither Aggie or Lobo, but a Greyhound.
That's where I was born.

Edit: Also, Greyhound? I've never heard of a team down there by that name. I take it that's some kind of joke I don't know?

Edited, Jan 13th 2011 1:46pm by Poldaran

No I'm going to college at ENMU and the mascot is a Greyhound
#21 Jan 13 2011 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Bizarre, I've never heard of 'em either.
I don't claim loyalty to the Aggies, but fortunately our state seems happy to be demographically split in the middle north to south, so it's a good divider.
Haven't been to Carlsbad area in years, just no reason to head out that way.
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schattensoldat wrote:
ENMU
Ah yes, our often forgotten university.
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