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#1 Oct 13 2010 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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Well 4.0.1 is upon us and I dusted off my rogue (been on raiding Hiatus since 20% ICC).

I run Assassination(Mutilate) was never a huge fan of Combat, but I do have some gear for it not that gears different anymore.

Anyway what this is about is a little bit of theory crafting.

All the standard glyphs for mutilate and here's my gear Dracian.

Now Armory's been all messed up so what I'll list the changes. First I've reforges My Expertise, and hit (still above 11%) to Mastery to test it out. And any non reforged piece without haste I did crit to haste.

Edit in: Both weapons are still enchanted with Berserking need to get mongoose tonight.

Right now my Stats are
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Now my Rotation was Vanish On CD tried lining up Vendetta, and Hyperspeed accelerators.
Open with Garrote, SND, Mutilate 4+, envenom, Mutilate 4+ Rupture keep both up.

Now the numbers I'm hitting are 7.3 ish k sustained with spikes up to 7.6 with CD. I was going to reforge all that mastery into haste and see how that worked out, keeping minimal mastery.

What kind of Numbers are you seeing ? And just because I'm Mutilate don't be afraid to discuss Combat.

Edited, Oct 13th 2010 10:30pm by BeanX
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#2 Oct 14 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Combat? Didn't you hear Subtlety is the new Combat?

I'm just curious if anyone has tried Subt yet in a PvE environment, and basically... what happened?
#3 Oct 28 2010 at 5:16 AM Rating: Good
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Mut rogue here. Like you, I reforged out of alot of hit and exp, both of which were way beyond where they needed to be. I dropped a little crit to get haste, but didn't do that on every single piece of gear where it was possible because...well, because I really wasn't sure how much I should be dropping.

My result is slightly higher single-target dps and much, much lower aoe dps than what I was seeing pre-401. You mentioned 7.3-7.6dps, but I'm not sure if you're talking target dummy or a specific bossfight (Saur or FG mayhaps?). Prior to the patch, I would be between 12-13k on Saurfang25 and FG25, post-patch and reforging I'm doing about those numbers on the 10man version of those fights (haven't done 25man since the patch). Important note here is that that is without keeping Vendetta on cooldown and without spamming backstab at the end like we're apparently supposed to now. Why you ask? Because I forgetted. Still getting used to the change, simple though they might be.

My rotation is about the same as yours, though I find myself loathe to put a 4pt rupture on, so I backstab for that 5th point when I probably shouldn't. Not too sure about that choice.
#4 Oct 28 2010 at 6:27 AM Rating: Good
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You mentioned 7.3-7.6dps, but I'm not sure if you're talking target dummy or a specific bossfight


Pure dummy beating. Speaking of which sorry I haven't been back much to update this. I did reforge all my pieces to Haste and then mastery on any piece that already had haste, after a while of beating on a Boss dummy solo again I was pulling around the same numbers. I don't know many it's just where my stats sit.

I haven't dusted off rogue yet for anything other then holiday bosses. Honestly I'm still a little burned out even 3 months later.


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