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#252 May 25 2010 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Are they all on different accounts?


Also, serious accomplishment: I exchanged my underused shadow spec, which I wasn't very good at and couldn't really be bothered about much, for a Disc PvP spec since I actually PvP every single day.

Then Aeth made me hit the dueling area in front of Orgrimmar and I dueled some people.
Apart from one duel at level 20, that was the first time I've done this since Disc was only viable for PvP, which was also when I used to go party with my guild because I didn't have any friends, so that would've been around March '08 or so.
It was fun. I might hit up AJ soon and learn to PvP properly.
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#253 May 25 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
Glad you are enjoying disc. It's a really fun spec.

Yes, if you multibox, you must have a separate copy of the game and an account for each character, including a the 15 dollar monthly fee for each. You can put all your wow accounts on one Battlenet Account and Authenticator. A dropdown will let you choose the wow account you are logging into. I doubt I'll do it, since I spent a good deal of time tri-boxing, plus I'd need to character transfer 80's around between accounts again, but it is fun to think about.
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#254 May 26 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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The Honorable dadanox wrote:
Yes, if you multibox, you must have a separate copy of the game and an account for each character, including a the 15 dollar monthly fee for each. You can put all your wow accounts on one Battlenet Account and Authenticator. A dropdown will let you choose the wow account you are logging into. I doubt I'll do it, since I spent a good deal of time tri-boxing, plus I'd need to character transfer 80's around between accounts again, but it is fun to think about.


Yes, I know this. I've dual boxed a bit in the past, when I still could.
I was just wondering if you have them on the necessary five separate accounts already and pay for five accounts, or if it would involve extra cost. You answered that anyway.
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#255 May 26 2010 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
I rolled my priest and got to level 5 (to pick up BoAs Smiley: tongue), does that count? :3
#256 May 27 2010 at 7:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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I rolled my priest and got to level 5 (to pick up BoAs Smiley: tongue), does that count? :3


That depends. What faction?
#257 May 27 2010 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
Horde, of course. Troll F with lots of braids. Smiley: grin
#258 May 27 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Overlord Norellicus wrote:
Horde, of course.


Then yes, it counts. Welcome to priesty goodness. Smiley: grin
#259 May 27 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
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Horde, of course. Troll F with lots of braids. Smiley: grin


Excellent choice. Keep the Troll priest quest robe for RP purposes, it makes you an ice queen.

I ditched that haircut around level 20, though. It's more of a rogue style, I think.
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#260 May 27 2010 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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I ditched that haircut around level 20, though. It's more of a rogue style, I think.


Troll girls gotta go with the mohawk, no?
#261 May 27 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
I waffled between the lots of braids and the wrapped braid. Ultimately I liked the look of the lots of braids from the back better.

I can't bring myself to rock a mohawk Smiley: lol
#262 May 27 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:

I ditched that haircut around level 20, though. It's more of a rogue style, I think.


Troll girls gotta go with the mohawk, no?


I actually went with the Mohawk on my other troll girls (shaman, bank alt and DK), but not on the priest. She's got the long straight hair with the bit up, and I'm not really all that pleased with it but Mohawks aren't all that priestly, and most other haircuts look like I'm suffering from a receding hairline. I really hope they introduce properly pretty haircuts for trolls at some point.
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Just thought I'd toss this out there...

The spindle is mine!! =)

That is all.
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#264 May 30 2010 at 5:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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That off-hand is horrible. Everytime it drops, I roll, win it, pass it on anyway because it's only a minor upgrade, and two weeks later the person who I passed it to leaves the guild. That has happened like three times already. It's cursed I tell you.
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8/12 ICC25 with a PuG yesterday.

8/12 ICC10 with the guild and 3 puggies today, one of which joined us (as in, the guild) somewhere between the wipes on Blood Princes. We did one-shot everything up to them, though, and might continue on Tuesday and try and get the Blood Wing down.

Loving the 20% buff.

I also finally got to replace my Shriveled Heart, and I don't really like the hit on there, but it's definitely an upgrade. Thanks to our moonkin for giving it to me. <3

Later, I decided that I had too much gold and got meself some new shoes to replace my 232 ones.

Thus I'm sitting at eh... 5682 or something Gearscore in PvE gear, 5770 or so in PvP gear and 5802 in "OMG LOOK AT MY GEARSCORE" gear. And over 3,000 Spellpower unbuffed. Our holy paladin still has much better gear than me, and does better at the later ICC bosses, too. I'm still shining on LDW and getting better and better at Lootship and Deathbringer. And Festergut, I think. I might wanna change my UI a bit to be more efficient on some later bosses, I've only really prepared for Sindragosa. As if, ha!

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#267 May 31 2010 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
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As if, ha!
2 weeks for LK.
Assuming that we can keep most of this group.
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#268 May 31 2010 at 5:37 AM Rating: Good
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As if, ha!
2 weeks for LK.
Assuming that we can keep most of this group.


Have you actually ever successfully downed her? Because from what I've heard, that's quite a step up from the rest of the instance. Less margin for error, I guess it's good the strategy isn't too involved.

And 2 weeks for getting a few tries on LK in, or for downing him? I'd be slightly amused if we got him before Sophie though, but from what I understand they already have Sindragosa on farm, pretty much.
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#269 Jun 01 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
Sindragosa is easier than BQ imo.

(says the guy who's never actually finished a kill lol >_>; we've come close enough that it was just a matter of tightening up dps uptime, so I consider it close enough to count)

Edited, Jun 1st 2010 8:43pm by Norellicus
#270 Jun 01 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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From what I've seen video-wise, Sindragosa seems pretty straightforward. Those debuffs (especially the caster one) are predictable and it seems like you could heal through them at least for some people, and everything else is stuff I've done a lot of times, just all combined.


Raid didn't happen today, though.
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#271 Jun 01 2010 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Sindragosa is easier than BQ imo.

(says the guy who's never actually finished a kill lol >_>; we've come close enough that it was just a matter of tightening up dps uptime, so I consider it close enough to count)

Without trying to spit on you, this seems so delightfully logically wrong. Sindragosa phase one is ****** easy. That only becomes hard when you realize that you need the DPS to stop her from flying up into the air a third time or you might have troubles killing her before enrage in P2. Besides, P2 is altogether where the **** starts. The fight is fairly forgiving, but there are so many things to look out for in P2 that it's really easy to forget just one thing. And if two or three people do so, it *will* wipe the raid. If you've never actually killed Sindragosa I can imagine you consider her to be easy, as she doesn't get hard until the very end (there's some innuendo there somewhere).

BQ is probably easier, to be honest, though it does really depend. If you've actually got serious troubles on BQ, Sindragosa will probably be of similar difficulty. The problem with BQ is more about getting everything right in relation with the bites & fear while constantly optimizing DPS, which is something you seem to either do right more or less of the bat or will wipe on a bunch of times.
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#272 Jun 02 2010 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
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BQ is a complete faceroll boss. It's a dps race and not one with very high requirements either.
I'd say that Princes are harder, Putricide is harder (even with the 10m LOLOL tactic) and Sindragosa and LK are definitely harder.
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#273 Jun 02 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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Sindragosa is easier than BQ imo.

(says the guy who's never actually finished a kill lol >_>; we've come close enough that it was just a matter of tightening up dps uptime, so I consider it close enough to count)

Without trying to spit on you, this seems so delightfully logically wrong. Sindragosa phase one is ****** easy. That only becomes hard when you realize that you need the DPS to stop her from flying up into the air a third time or you might have troubles killing her before enrage in P2. Besides, P2 is altogether where the sh*t starts. The fight is fairly forgiving, but there are so many things to look out for in P2 that it's really easy to forget just one thing. And if two or three people do so, it *will* wipe the raid. If you've never actually killed Sindragosa I can imagine you consider her to be easy, as she doesn't get hard until the very end (there's some innuendo there somewhere).

BQ is probably easier, to be honest, though it does really depend. If you've actually got serious troubles on BQ, Sindragosa will probably be of similar difficulty. The problem with BQ is more about getting everything right in relation with the bites & fear while constantly optimizing DPS, which is something you seem to either do right more or less of the bat or will wipe on a bunch of times.


I said I've come close enough, and by that I mean consistently down to about 500k before we hit enrage and cold aura oneshot us. Our execution was good, it's just getting dps to clean up their act that would have made the difference. I've seen all three phases, and frost tombs are really quite simple if your raid positioning is any kind of respectable, even when dealing with Mystic Buffet. The mechanics in P1 and 2 teach you wtf to do, and then P3 is "okay, now do it all together" and it's really quite simple.

I say it's easier than BQ not because BQ is hard to begin with, but because it's so tight of a DPS race. Sindragosa isn't, our trailing DPS are just that far behind and we only make up on BQ because the top ones are so high that they can pick up the slack once bitten.

I'm talking about all this without the buff, btw. With it, I know BQ is a joke, and we'd have probably had the Lich King even with 5% had I not had to step off due to life aggro and cause our healers to go off and do their own thing.

Edit: Either way, it was a passing opinion, every group is different and handles things differently. I just personally found the demands of Sindragosa to be a lot more straightforward than trying to organize and coordinate the vampire bites with all the other stuff going on in that fight.

Edit2: Aeth, out of curiosity, what is this 10man LOLOL tactic on putricide?

Edited, Jun 2nd 2010 3:27pm by Norellicus
#274 Jun 04 2010 at 6:37 AM Rating: Good
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Started working on ICC 10 hardmodes. Got all the bosses down up to Fesertgut, who gave us some trouble. Giving him another try tonight.
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#275 Jun 04 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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Edit2: Aeth, out of curiosity, what is this 10man LOLOL tactic on putricide?
Stack up under the green tap.
Removes most of the needed movement until P3 and people can just stand and pewpew.
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#276 Jun 04 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
Ha, we do that on 10 and 25. Works pretty well imo Smiley: tongue

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It works well yeah, but it's also ******* lame.
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#278 Jun 05 2010 at 5:40 PM Rating: Good
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I got myself a new pretty mount.

I like it so much, I'm not sure I want any other flying mounts. I'll probably still get them for something to do and stuff, but I really heart my hippogryph.
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#279 Jun 05 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
Cenarion Expedition hippo or bust kthx.

Though the argent one was pretty funny back when it had no ground animations Smiley: tongue

Edit: Nice homage, Aeth Smiley: grin

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#280 Jun 06 2010 at 5:18 AM Rating: Good
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Cenarion Expedition hippo or bust kthx.

Though the argent one was pretty funny back when it had no ground animations Smiley: tongue


Yeah, the CE one is pretty high up on my list.

I actually wanted it first, but ultimately the AT one looks more priestly.
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After a long while of messing around with various alts, I concentrated the last week on my Draenei priest and pushed up to level 45. I'm mostly finished with Stranglethorn Vale and trying to decide where to go for 45-50/45-55.

She's still running smite spec and doing great with it. No dual spec yet as I can't afford it.

I also am now exalted with Stormwind (as of an hour ago) so I now have a horse to ride along with the elekk, although since I'm seven feet tall, the poor horse looks slightly overburdened. Lucky for her that I wear cloth I guess.

Still having a lot of fun which is the best accomplishment of all. I think she'll ding 80 this summer sometime. I'm not in a hurry really. Mostly exploring the great outdoors before it all changes.

#282 Jun 07 2010 at 5:34 AM Rating: Good
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I was about to say you should look into speccing Disc at 47, but if you're questing a lot, Smite spec is probably the better option.
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Love this mount so much. I have it on two characters and it's the only one either rides.

This is not an accomplishment, but it is a yay priest moment: I was running my priest through Strat yesterday grinding runecloth, and I discovered that despte that pally-trumps-all conventional wisdom, it's WAY easier to solo low level dungeons with my priest. Whose idea was it to make Mind Sear hit an unlimited number of targets? That's just cheating! And why don't I use Mind Sear in battlegrounds more often? It makes me cackle.
#284 Jun 12 2010 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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I finally got around to making myself a little priest alt to level in heirlooms. Also, possibly, to learn how to play Shadow better.

I'm probably going to try and quest on her a bit more. She will be Smite spec until level 40. If I don't change my mind by then, I'll dual spec her Shadow/Disc PvP at that point and maybe get rid of that PvP spec on my main to offspec Holy for some raid encounters.
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A random priest asked me if I was Disc today. I said yes, then he asked to copy my spec.

I use this disc spec and feel he will be happy.

I forget if I using Renew or FH glyph.

I mean Penance and PW:S are awesome. But the FH and PW:S ones...

I think I need to get them in stack form and switch between 10 and 25 man. As in 10s I use FH more but in 25s I use Renew more.

Shield spam is universal of course.

Also tinkering with PvP spec to find one that best suits my play style. Divine Aegis is lost 1 point for a point in Reflective Shield and may lose all of them for a point in dispel make cheaper talent.

My crit sucks in PvP gear anyway.
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I'd like to start up a priest but I've heard they are extremely slow levelers. Anyone have other thoughts?
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#288 Jun 13 2010 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also tinkering with PvP spec to find one that best suits my play style. Divine Aegis is lost 1 point for a point in Reflective Shield and may lose all of them for a point in dispel make cheaper talent.

My crit sucks in PvP gear anyway.


FWIW, the people who do the math generally agree that Reflective Shield is not worth 2 points in a PVP build. I've tried it both ways and never noticed a difference when I have it. I'd suggest giving that a shot and seeing if it's really a big enough difference to warrant 2 points.

If you don't take Divine Aegis you're even drunker than usual. Fill up Holy Conc for crit and it'll still pop up fairly often (I have no crit gear except the one ring, not the One Ring, but the one PVP one with crit). And when it does it's like a unicorn wrapped in a rainbow and topped with chocolate cupcakes.
#289 Jun 13 2010 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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RS is very noticeable in my experiences doing BGs this weekend. For arena ya I can see it being less of a deal.
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#290 Jun 14 2010 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
I grabbed RS yesterday just for fun, after spending some time fishing in Wintergrasp. If someone attacks me, I'm still probably going to die, but I want them to hurt themselves a little too.

The last time I had it, I got a helpful whisper from someone informing me that it didn't activate on others I shielded (wouldn't that be sweet). I politely let him know that I was aware of that, and that it was just for fun. Gosh, being called out for daring to stray from cookie cutter...
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#291 Jun 14 2010 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
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RS means that when people are attacking you, they have to be much more careful.
And in arena that can mean less pressure on you because that rogue can't quite follow you around the pillar and LoS his healer because as long as he's beating on you he's going to die that much faster.
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I still have 1 in DA and I can't fully drop DA and not feel shame.

I want some points in Absolution (sic) but can't find them. **** dropping to 1/3 DA to get 1 in RS was bad enough.

Again hoping my low crit, as I only can afford 3 in HS, makes it not be a big deal.

I'm doing this right now and like it so far.

Haven't done any arena matches as I did them before the respec but I typically see plenty melee so hoping it helps.
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You still have 3/3 enlightenment, while spirit and haste are nice they're really mediocre stats for us and the first place to sacrifice points.

Edit: I run with 54/17/0 and an overall really aggressive build.
And 57/14/0 would be pretty much the most defensive build I'd play with.

Edited, Jun 14th 2010 2:42pm by Aethien
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Aeth has a point. I'd argue for Enlightenment in PvE, where it has pretty decent uses (I vaguely remember something about the 6% haste it gives being exactly enough to cap you with Borrowed Time, but I might be wrong), but for PvP... Just drop it altogether.
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Aeth has a point. I'd argue for Enlightenment in PvE, where it has pretty decent uses (I vaguely remember something about the 6% haste it gives being exactly enough to cap you with Borrowed Time, but I might be wrong), but for PvP... Just drop it altogether.


It isn't enough for cap - you need ~5% haste still (which is what, 160 rating?). I know, I'm under hastecap at the moment.
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RS is very noticeable in my experiences doing BGs this weekend. For arena ya I can see it being less of a deal.


Really? I'll try it again. I haven't respecced my PVP build in a long time. And since it should get incrementally better with each gear upgrade, maybe it's gotten enough for me to notice now. Not that my gear is good, but better than it was last time I tried it. I don't do arena so I don't care about the math and all the optimization whatsits.

I can often kill rogues and warriors all by myself now. Maybe this would up my chances. So humiliating for them to lose to a girl in a dress. It's one thing not to be able to kill the healer, but if the healer can kill you, you're doing it wrong.
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The Spirit from Enlightenment is great for mana as I need all the regen I can get in PvP. Same with haste as resilience takes up a good chunk of item budgets.

Plus you need ~400 haste with Enlightenment and BT to cap haste.

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The Spirit from Enlightenment is great for mana as I need all the regen I can get in PvP. Same with haste as resilience takes up a good chunk of item budgets.

Plus you need ~400 haste with Enlightenment and BT to cap haste.
Int is better for regen than spirit is, drinking is even better.
Haste, while nice, really isn't that notable as most of the time BT is up and that gives you all the haste you need.
You can't stack all stats in PvP and haste and spirit are the first to be cut out.
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I'm not good enough to run and drink.

I like the stable return from Spirit in PvP as Rapture can only proc every 13 secs or so and you can't usually time it to get multi-proc on AoE like in PvE.

I want the haste so I can cast more faster.

Crit is good and all but the gear is so un-crit friendly that going into crit in a serious way isn't a real option.

I actually like haste and spirit for PvP. Spirit gear at least, as if I went into the crit gear it would hurt regen to much and it is low enough all ready. This makes me devalue crit on off set as it wont push it high enough to matter.

edit: Plus haste has a hard cut off point for usefulness in PvP so getting there and then going elsewhere is easier. As crit is a go as high as you can stat. Especially since you need hit and Spell Pen as well.

Edited, Jun 15th 2010 11:41pm by Horsemouth
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
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The Spirit from Enlightenment is great for mana as I need all the regen I can get in PvP. Same with haste as resilience takes up a good chunk of item budgets.

Plus you need ~400 haste with Enlightenment and BT to cap haste.
Int is better for regen than spirit is, drinking is even better.
Haste, while nice, really isn't that notable as most of the time BT is up and that gives you all the haste you need.
You can't stack all stats in PvP and haste and spirit are the first to be cut out.


And then you tell me to stack Spirit on my PvP gear, huh?

As for haste, with BT it scales much better for us than it does for any other class. Much better. Up to cap, it's possibly the best throughput stat we can get but the haste cap is ridiculously easy to reach and after that it's worthless.
If you want me to, I can show you the math.
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My PVP set is Mooncloth set pieces and the MP5 or Spirit option, if there is one, in every other slot except Hit shoulders and ring.

My Holy crit is just around 20% (which is still enough for Divine Aegis to be useful) and my haste rating is, wait for it, a big fat zero. But I never run out of mana. Ever. Even in a skirmish where the other team has a druid healing, I'm still the last healer standing.

All my gear, gem, and enchant choices are focused on resilience and mana, so I'm the little Energizer bunny of priests. There are of course significant tradeoffs that I know a lot of people couldn't stand to make, but I love it.
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