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How many ranks do you guys have in Maelstorm Weapon? Seems to me that with only three in the talent I get 5 instances in no time. Anyone have a compelling reason to get more than that? Once you have 5/5 do you end up with every hit giving you a proc?

Cestin, I mean no offense when I say this, but that response was useless. If you had told me that the proc rate increases to a point where I would see a marked increase, such that my playstyle would change, I would then agree with your post. That being said, it seems to me that the procs I get with only 3 points in the Talent are sufficient for what I am doing.

The information I really wanted was something along the lines of: Oh that is fine when you are 60ish, but in the 70s the proc rate changes due to the level correlation (clearly I am making this up).

Alternatively something along the lines of: at 5/5 you will get a proc each swing, thus making it an important point of your damage rotation.

Hey DarkHybridx that is exactly what I was looking for. Now, uhm... excuse my stupidity, but what does that mean? What is PPM?

There are people who don't actually know about EJ. Or maybe it just doesn't occur to them at the time they make a post.

Since 10 procs per minute on average does not seem overly *oomph*-y, the following must be added: the mentioned PPM (i.e. 10 in this case) is the PPM on normal auto attacks. For each normal weapon speed (nonmodified by haste for example), the wow-system calculates a % to proc. For example: a 2.00 seconds weapon will have a % to proc of 2.00seconds/60seconds*10=33.33% per swing. A 1.00 seconds weapon will have a % to proc of 1.00/60*10=16.67%.

With normal swings this comes to an average proc amount of 10 per minute for both weapons. Now, when adding haste or "extra" attacks, the % to proc stays the same, but the average amount of actual procs per minute will increase! To show this, lets assume two cases:

1. You have a 2.00 seconds weapon, unhasted, no extra attacks. Average amount of actual procs per minute is 30(swings per minute)*33.33%(chance to proc per swing)=10.
2. You have a 2.00 seconds weapon, with 100% haste (yeah yeah, I know but it gives a good example). Your swingtime becomes 1.00 second. Average amount of actual procs per minute is 60(swings per minute)*33.33%(SAME chance to proc per swing)=20.

Thus, the (ACTUAL) 10 PPM grows with haste and/or extra swings.

Just to elaborate a bit.

Edited, Sep 10th 2009 4:32am by Immunios

It's worth noting that Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning accounts for a significant portion of enhancement shaman dps in groups. If it were a case where MW casts were a trivial contribution, I would say it's not that big of a deal. Since Chain Lightning is a nice damage option for trash packs in conjunction with Magma Totem and Lightning Bolts for single target boss fights can do some pretty chunky damage as well, 5/5 Maelstrom is basically a must.

Ya, EJ will actually lolbant you if you ask too many questions and most information threads will specifically tell you not to ask. For reference, however, the two EJ enhancement shaman pages I use most frequently are:

General information.

Best-in-Slot Discussion

The general information tends to be the easiest one to digest. The best-in-slot discussion tends to assume you already know a fair bit about enhancement shaman and suggests gems/enchants that may or may not be suited to an enhancement shaman at your level of progression. (If you look at the gear setup and the gems he's using, he's packing almost entirely +haste gems which would be a very poor choice for most enhancement shaman due to the fact that you can't reach the hit cap through included +hit on gear until late T9).

Edited, Sep 13th 2009 10:49pm by AureliusSir

Actually... no. My response to Cestinshaman came because the information he gave was not what I asked for. I asked for why I should go 5/5. He did not give me that info. Once that was provided, the question was answered.

These boards are here so that folks like myself can come and get information. If you ask a question and don't get an answer that makes sense, you should say something. Your ascertion that I could get the information myself is hilarious to me in this context.

Cestinshaman is a pimp *** player that would wipe the floor with my Shaman (or any other toons). His advice is awesome, and, I should have chosen my words better. I really like him, and respect his opinion. The problem I had with his post was that I wanted to understand WHY you needed 5/5 points in Maelstorm Weapon, and he simply told me to put 5/5 in, because, he said so.

Also, I think this thread has this topic covered, but thanks for coming in to stirr up the well settled *****.