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#252 Jun 12 2009 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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Got my t8 25 man helm today finally. Tempted to now make the switch from lunar to solar eclipse.


At what point does solar become better? I was under the impression that with the way the numbers work, there never really is a point where solar is better enough to make switching the rotation worthwhile.
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#253 Jun 12 2009 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Wouldn't free Starfires during Lunar be hawt enough to stay Lunar?

Or would you be able to shift enough haste into crit and SP to make the Wraths that much uber during Solar procs?

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#254 Jun 13 2009 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
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At what point does solar become better? I was under the impression that with the way the numbers work, there never really is a point where solar is better enough to make switching the rotation worthwhile.


Well, from the testing I did on the 80 heroic test dummies for about 2 hours yesterday.

I found that on average in my gear I was doing about 3500-3700 dps on a heroic dummy with a solar eclipse. This is with about 26% crit and 2300 spell power and 301 haste.

I put on my lunar gear and found I would do an average of 4000-4400 dps pending the rng. I did this with about 23% crit, 2200 spell power and 543 haste. I was also able to keep my mana pool longer and kept a sustained damage.

The conclusion that I came to is that with this set of tier gear and loot from ulduar solar is viable when you have BiS. You get something like 3300 spell power and 29-30% crit.

Solar is doable yes but you'll have lower dps until you either reach BiS for solar or until t9 raids come out with higher crit items.

I have this really good feeling that t9 will be when it becomes viable, blizzard will understand that instead of spirit on our gear, we want secondary stats such as crit/haste and not spirit/hit.




One little addendum for you all. I am the proud owner of the Heartbreaker achievement. XT 10 man hardmode clear. It honestly wasn't that hard. Also we we're attempting IC hardmode with steelbreaker last and got him to 5% and our priest was overkilled by..... SIXTY THREE DAMAGE.

I had to leave after that attempt so my group proceeded to 9 man auriya and hodir.

Edit: One more thing! I got eye of the brood mother trinket, it's sexy as hell. In 10 man I was buffed up to 2859 spell power with my trinket pushing me to something like 3360 during eclipse. I love elemental shamans.

Edited, Jun 13th 2009 10:22am by ArexLovesPie
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#255 Jun 13 2009 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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Grats on the achievement!

I'm hoping they take a real look at Moonkin rotation for 3.2. I really enjoy the concept, but I just feel that it doesn't really work out because of it's RNG dependency and because one can't just switch between the two easily. It makes the rotation require a bit more attention, but I don't feel it does so in a good manner.
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#256 Jun 14 2009 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
We did the 10man XT hard mode last night as well and I was surprised at how easy it was. Admittedly, my guildies have a fair bit of 25man Uld gear so we overgear 10man a bit, but I was in the top couple of DPS and I only have one 10man ring and a 25man helm so far.

We also came very close to a server 2nd 10man Hard mode General Vezzax last night. We got the Saronite Animus to 4% (with the General under 500k health) before a shadow crash wiped the melee because too many ranged had died (in 10man you need at least 3 people at ranged or General will start targeting melee with Shadow Crash).

I am really enjoying both the 10 and 25man Ulduars at the moment. Although we have cleared 25man several times now, several of the fights are still a significant challenge and working on different hard modes really keeps things interesting. 10 man easy is a lot easier, but still with the option of hard modes. We did 3-4 hard modes last night and still managed a full clear in one session which makes it much easier to fit it into off-nights between 25mans.

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#257 Jun 14 2009 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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Friar, when you say you have cleared 25 Uld, do you mean Algalon as well?

I was just wondering whether he is starting to be taken down regularly by some guilds.

On another note I got my first piece of Ulduar gear the other night.

Pity it looks like I have a fishbowl built into both shoulders...
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#258 Jun 15 2009 at 12:36 AM Rating: Good
No, definitely haven't downed Algalon, in fact we haven't even tried yet. Pretty sure we are focusing more on the hard modes etc while we gear up even more. Algalon seems to be a step above again by the sounds of it, especially with only an hour a week to attempt it.

According to World of Raids leaderboard only 6 guilds have beaten him yet.

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#259 Jun 16 2009 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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My guild made progress lat night.

We killed Freya. Was a broken kill and we barely beat the enrage but still nice to make progress.

The lack of guild healers is killing me now.

No loot for me but still good fun. Hoping we steamroll to Freya on Wed and either try her for a bit or deal with Ignis.

Ignis is a prick.
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#260 Jun 17 2009 at 12:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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We killed Freya. Was a broken kill and we barely beat the enrage but still nice to make progress.


Agreed, progress is good no matter how it is achieved :) With the loot that you continue to pick up it will be smoother next time round

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Ignis is a prick.


Seems to be the general consensus! In our 10 man (I say our but one of the healers left so I was roped in on my holy pally....no love for my Druid which is quite disheartening) last week we cleared up to The Keepers of Ulduar but skipped Ignis. Mimiron is a fun fight, also Thorim when you go on the gauntlet but maybe that is because we have a crazy ass warrior tank who waits for noone :)

Maybe the last part should have been posted on the pally forum but hey in my heart I was on my druid shredding mobs for fun :)
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#261 Jun 17 2009 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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Bored druid is bored.

But I did get Intensity last night off 25 man ignis. The funny thing is it put me at like 450 hit rating so I had to ditch out my Living Flame trinket for good ole Sundial of the Exiled :(

Gonna do the last to keepers tomorrow and hopefully get vezax down quick to head onto yogg.
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#262 Jun 18 2009 at 3:10 AM Rating: Good
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I still hate Ignis.

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#263 Jun 20 2009 at 4:42 AM Rating: Excellent
Last night was good to my druid won Illustration of the Dragon Soul with a 100 roll (the guy with a 99 was seriously pissed Smiley: schooled) and then in naxx-10 i won Staff of the Plaguehound and slapped a Massacre enchant on it.
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#264 Jun 20 2009 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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I hate you and your dragon soul, Gutler.
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#265 Jun 21 2009 at 3:50 AM Rating: Excellent
Ok question for the ferals which staff would you prefer for dps, and what enchant (i can do masacre or Mongoose)Staff of the Plaguehound Vs. The Undeath Carrier (leaning towards the undeath carrier mainly cause i like the way it looks Smiley: lol).

Edited, Jun 21st 2009 8:00am by Gutler
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#266 Jun 21 2009 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Do you need the expertise?
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#267 Jun 21 2009 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
My expertise rating is at 22 is that good or do i need more?
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#268 Jun 21 2009 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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You want to reduce the chance to be dodged by 6.5%. I believe that's 26 expertise.

Hold on to both. I find that there's no shortage of expertise on leather gear.
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#269 Jun 22 2009 at 3:57 AM Rating: Good
You don't need to cap expertise any more than you need to cap hit; it loosens up your rotation but doesn't implicitly affect your dps as severely as most classes.

I'd do Undeath Carrier myself, for dps, and would use Plaguehound for tanking (since expertise is good for bears to minimize dodged/parried attacks lowering your TPS).
#270 Jun 22 2009 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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I run expertise heavy on my tank and light on hit. My DPS set I think I am close to being capped for both but I don't prioritize it over trying to pile n retarded levels of ArP. I've been going ArP nutty since I got Grim Toll. The ArP weapon from Uld helped my dementia as well.

Did the guild's weekly PuG Uld25. Fail melee group meant only FL went down. Running to a side is hard.

I did get a new ring out of the deal.

Then a guildie wanted to do H UK to get the belt for a new rogue. We gt as far as the second boss before sleepiness made it collapse. I was amazed we got the far with me healing. The mage we PuG'd wanted to know why I had no chest on or wrists. Lucky he didn't look at my spec. ;)

Feral healing FTW.
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#271 Jun 22 2009 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Overlord Norellicus wrote:
I'd do Undeath Carrier myself, for dps, and would use Plaguehound for tanking (since expertise is good for bears to minimize dodged/parried attacks lowering your TPS).


I'd normally agree fully, but that expertise is just about a quarter of what one needs to hit the cap. I'm not sure that it's worth sacrificing hitting 2% more for the crit.

I guess it comes down to how comfortable one is with their rotation, and if they can handle a miss.

As a side note, I'm really not looking forward to the Eclipse change in 3.2. I ran Ulduar on my moonkin last night and was doing very well considering I had basically no caster buffs (I was the only caster DPS). There were just too many times were Eclipse procced at an awful time (Kologan eye beams anyone?), I'd get the proc and was completely unable to get Starfire to crit (I know, RNG is RNG, but come on), or something else fustrating.

I'm just not a fan of having my DPS based on a RNG proc off of an RNG chance to have a RNG crit. It's looking like Crit will be the stat to have with 3.2 (after SP, of course), which will certainly help out getting the initial proc, but that's not going to make it any more fun.
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#272 Jun 23 2009 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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#273 Jun 23 2009 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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/cries cause horse is on the ArP train.

I hit 6.1k on XT 10 man last week. Was up to 6.9k during heroism on a hearth phase :P

/sniffle

EDIT: Also, T8 feral shoulders make me cry cause they look like a pair of....hmmmmhowtonotgetfilteredfunbags when you are sitting in a chair...

Edited, Jun 23rd 2009 7:01pm by Galenmoon
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#274 Jun 23 2009 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Galenmoon wrote:
/cries cause horse is on the ArP train.


Grim Toll made me do it. It crept into my thoughts with delusions of grandeur and face shredding pwnage.

Plus DPS isn't my main gig so I get to mess around with Manglespam ArP fun.

I should have DS in a week. Which will mean no more Manglespam. :(

I do like blowing berserk on XTs heart and scaring everyone into thinking I'm going to trigger hard mode. ;)

I will some day when I forget to change to into tank gear. I will laugh until I pee.
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#275 Jun 23 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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wtb 3.2 eclipse change.

500-600 more dps pl0x
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#276 Jun 23 2009 at 9:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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new toy Spire of Withering Dreams

I'm running at 4k self buffed on a heroic target dummy......

EDIT: I want to reply to more threads but they all seem so...meh....

Edited, Jun 24th 2009 1:07am by Galenmoon
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#277 Jun 23 2009 at 9:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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new toy Spire of Withering Dreams

I'm running at 4k self buffed on a heroic target dummy......

EDIT: I want to reply to more threads but they all seem so...meh....

Edited, Jun 24th 2009 1:07am by Galenmoon


I have that for my DPS stick, it helps feed my ArP addiction.



Come to the darkside. Your half way there, 150 ArP on your gears. ;)
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#278 Jun 24 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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So might be leaving my 25 man guild when I get back from vacation to form a brand new 10 man guild with focus on hardmodes and pvp.

Guess I'm gonna find out when I get back on Monday if they leave.

It will be nice though if we do leave. No more crazy 4 night a week raid schedule. Two nights dedicated for a raid and then hardcore focus on pvp like the 10 or so of us love.

It'll be like BC all over again for me and that's gonna be so much fun. I miss the days of running Kara/ZA with my 10 man group.
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#279 Jun 25 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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ive got my third druid on my way to 80.

i so crave a healer its ridiculous. only six more levels to go >.<
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#280 Jun 30 2009 at 2:16 AM Rating: Good
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Sup.

Y'all know.

Just sayin.
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#281 Jun 30 2009 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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#282 Jun 30 2009 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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#283 Jul 01 2009 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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In addition to my terribad 2s team I will be starting a 3s team.

Feral, mage, hunter.

I see very bad things in the future.
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Drunk droods amirite?
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#285 Jul 01 2009 at 11:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ran Ulduar 10 man last night and picked up Treacherous Shoulderpads from XT and Shawl of the Shattered Giant from Kologarn.

Also, I passed on Guise of the Midgard Serpent from Thorim for the good of the guild :) Next time it will be mine :)
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#286 Jul 02 2009 at 12:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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So we ran 25 ulduar for a few hours, people sucked, specifically our healing. After we left there, I thoguht we should refill the guild's abyss crystal stash. So to Naxx10 we went. All the sudden, 2.5 hours later, KT is dead and I've got...The Undying
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#287 Jul 02 2009 at 12:43 AM Rating: Good
Last night I scored the Gloves of the Stonereaper form Auriaya then ended up with the T8.5 gloves from Mimiron which the others had already then in a 10 man VOA, I was the only druid and got the T8 gloves......shame I couldn't have spread the loot around to other slots.

Also hit 9.3k DPS on XT last night and topped damage :) Although our top feral was accidently in bear spec and the other feral was lagging (I actually believe him Smiley: smile) during the fight. One day, when my gear catches up, I will beat them both legitimately !



Edited, Jul 2nd 2009 8:46am by RareBeast
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#288 Jul 02 2009 at 3:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not sure what to say other than lol and gz! 9.4k unless you are using blizzards rounding methods!

Edit: how rude of me....gz Galenmoon

Edited, Jul 2nd 2009 7:06am by KevMc
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#289 Jul 02 2009 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Made my dual spec PvP Feral. I haven't PvPed much at all on my druid since WotLK. When I did WSG and EotS yesterday I got the achievement for winning the match haha.

I had forgotten how much I enjoy PvPing as Feral. I did it all through BC since I wasn't able to raid much. Even though my gear is trash and many things have changed for Feral the playstyle still comes natural to me. I am still weaving in Tiger's Fury, Berserk, and other cooldowns that weren't around in BC.

It would be nice for someone to give me some quick pointers for my spec. I know my gear is wack, I just put a gear set together yesterday. I still have level 70 pieces and I am working to replace them with BG rewards. I need to make some changes to some gems and add on some enchants here and there. Should I gem for AGI still? What gems go in blue slots?
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#290 Jul 02 2009 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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We downed Thorim last night, was great mostly all guild as just about everyone showed up except the Canadian faction. Managed to recruit a shammy we grabbed as well. Everyone is really happy about it as it means if he is reliable we can all drop some hit for other stuff.

Also did FL with 2 towers. One tower has been cake for weeks hoping we start one shotting 2 quickly so we can get to 4 towers soon.

Thinking since the warrior OT got back from a lady-visitor-based vacation we should be able to kill some more keepers this week as it frees up the DK to DPS. At the very least there is talk of starting to try XT, Kolo and Cat Lady on hard mode since they have been farmy for a while now. Hopefully the roster stabilizing will be a big help and we can start making big progress.

I was going to do something like this as a PvP 2nd spec that can double as raid DPS. I have the one I really liked at home bookmarked but some like that should work.

edit: Just got home from a grueling forced 2 mile or so run that my girl friend inflicts upon me on night I don't raid. Anyway this is the spec I think I will end using as my DPS/PvP 2nd spec.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 1:49am by Horsemouth
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Horsemouth, I just noticed you had me sigged haha. I feel special.

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I run expertise heavy on my tank and light on hit. My DPS set I think I am close to being capped for both but I don't prioritize it over trying to pile n retarded levels of ArP. I've been going ArP nutty since I got Grim Toll. The ArP weapon from Uld helped my dementia as well.

Did the guild's weekly PuG Uld25. Fail melee group meant only FL went down. Running to a side is hard.

I did get a new ring out of the deal.

Then a guildie wanted to do H UK to get the belt for a new rogue. We gt as far as the second boss before sleepiness made it collapse. I was amazed we got the far with me healing. The mage we PuG'd wanted to know why I had no chest on or wrists. Lucky he didn't look at my spec. ;)

Feral healing FTW.


^ You Feral Main Healed without Nurturing Instinct O.o

I have my talents set up so it costs me like 100 mana to shift :p So Offhealing is really easy for me. Esp now with OOC. (<--- 73 Druid).
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#293 Jul 02 2009 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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Ya, I have a decent set of healer gear, well missing gems and enchants to large degree. Plus the tank was very geared. I wouldn't recommend doing it, if it was BC style and I still had Intensity that would be another story all together.
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#294 Jul 03 2009 at 5:19 AM Rating: Good
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Uhmmmmm. Yogg 25 fight. WooooooooW that sh*t is crazy.

We got to phase 3 in one night of progressing on him though.
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#295 Jul 03 2009 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
We've beaten Yogg about 5 times now, and I find it extremely bizarre that with the complexity of the fight, most of our wipes are caused by people who can't seem to understand "STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE CLOUDS!!!!"


It isn't a DPS race in any way at that stage and they really don't need to finish that cast before moving! The key to the fight seems to be the portals. We number them 1-10 :-

                   4     5     6 
 
               3                    7 
 
               2       YOGG         8 
 
               1                    9 
 
                        10 
 


All melee are assigned a portal (except a healer gets number 10) and if any are left over we send a hunter who can use Aspect of the Pack once the mobs inside are dead so everyone can get to the brain thing quicker. When you go in the portal, you run to the corresponding position inside as well and kill the closest mobs ie. #6 runs to the back right of the room below. If everyone grabs the correct portal and kills their mob inside then you get a lot of DPS time on the brain thing before you have to get out.


It certainly is a hectic fight though. Big difference for a feral druid between that and Vezax which involves me sitting behind the boss practicing my rotation and ignoring anything else going on in the fight. That fight gets more than a little boring :)





Edited, Jul 3rd 2009 11:00pm by RareBeast
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#296 Jul 05 2009 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, phase 1 we have down pretty well and in phase 2 our melee is absolutely amazing at taking portals and getting on the brain. The problems we run into is some of our ranged is lacking in dps to take down the crushers.

Myself and a hunter do just fine on the tentacles but some of our mages are lacking, and they shouldnt be.

Yogg is separating our good raiders from the bad ones and I'm loving it.
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#298 Jul 08 2009 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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Gratz on the ding Quor.

I remember being young. Kind of. Senility is fun.

Drives Ms. Horsemouth nuts though.
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Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
#299 Jul 08 2009 at 3:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Quor is getting old!

Well, got my t8.5 chest now. Ulduar is pretty much gonna start becoming a 2 night thing now it seems.

But, the gf leaves for AT on saturday and then I have two straight weeks of hardcore raiding/farming/hunterleveling ahead of me.

I forsee much wowness.
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#300 Jul 08 2009 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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What's AT?

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idiggory wrote:
Drinking at home. But I could probably stand to get laid.
#301 Jul 09 2009 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
Hmmm....If Quor is getting old at 28, then I am definitely would be considered ancient at 36!



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