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#22052 Jun 10 2013 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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Remind me to bring brass knuckles if I ever go to New York.

The teeth will act as my breadcrumbs.
Streets are numbered and fairly easy to follow. I think using your own teeth as breadcrumbs is a bit drastic.
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#22053 Jun 10 2013 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
What about the streets that go the other way? Here in Eugene we have numbered streets going one direction, but then the other direction we have named streets. Some of which are President names and others are just random. It's kind of weird.
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I laugh when places go like 221st, 222nd, 223rd, 224th, 17th, 16th, 15th... because you just entered some new suburb or something.

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he has said that the natives are a peaceful lot,
I'm always suspicious of nice people. Rude is honest. Rude says what it's thinking. I trust rude.

You are such a New Yorker lol.

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Big city people are rude because it's impossible to be nice to the thousands of people you see every day and if someone is nice to you in New York, at least someone you don't know, they probably want something from you.
Hopefully you're kidding. New Yorkers are actually very friendly, it's the only big city I've been to where people aren't afraid to look you in the eye and say hello. (Disclaimer: I've never been to Europe) I love going into Manhattan.

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What about the streets that go the other way? Here in Eugene we have numbered streets going one direction, but then the other direction we have named streets. Some of which are President names and others are just random. It's kind of weird.
Lower Manhattan is named streets and they go in every possible direction. Then, at some point, some city planner thought it was quite messy to do it that way and pretty much north of Houston (pronounced How-ston in Manhattan, and Hew-ston when referring to the city in Texas) it's a grid and all numbers. It isn't quite that simple, as there are some crooked and named streets on the west side north of Houston, but it is pretty much reliable. North of 14th Street is all grid and numbers.

My personal experience is that the best part of Manhattan is south of Houston. But, honestly, I haven't explored every nook and cranny.

The grid gives rise to Manhattanhenge.
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#22056 Jun 10 2013 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
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Really, it's the whole "Southern Hospitality" I'm most suspicious of. It's so forced that you can't help but think there's something going on.


We just call it "not being a ****
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#22057 Jun 10 2013 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
What I thought was the most weird during my stint in the south, was all the women who would say "bless her/his/your heart!" It was usually middle aged women or older, but it seemed like ALL of them said it. T'was very strange.
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#22058 Jun 10 2013 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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Streets are numbered and fairly easy to follow. I think using your own teeth as breadcrumbs is a bit drastic.


Wouldn't be my teeth, duh.

Also, numbered streets is just crazy. We gave our streets names. Makes it easier to find your way on Google Maps (or iMaps if you're feeling adventurous).
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Mazra wrote:
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Streets are numbered and fairly easy to follow. I think using your own teeth as breadcrumbs is a bit drastic.


Wouldn't be my teeth, duh.

Also, numbered streets is just crazy. We gave our streets names. Makes it easier to find your way on Google Maps (or iMaps if you're feeling adventurous).


i would rather wander around drunk and hope for the best then use iMaps for directions
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#22060 Jun 11 2013 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Americans, too **** lazy to even name their streets.
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#22061 Jun 11 2013 at 5:08 AM Rating: Good
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morning sunshine, glad to see you're all chipper this, well your, fine morning.
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#22062 Jun 11 2013 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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It's past noon in Europe, silly.
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#22063 Jun 11 2013 at 6:27 AM Rating: Good
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It's 2:30 already, not really morning anymore.
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#22064 Jun 11 2013 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
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It's past noon in Europe, silly.
God, you Euros can't even stay in the same space-time as the rest of reality.
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#22065 Jun 11 2013 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Americans, too @#%^ing lazy to even name their streets.
Best we don't even try. I used to live on Rock street, as in there's a boulder in our way, let's name our street after it. With that amount of creativity we should just stick to numbers.

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#22066 Jun 11 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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I live on a road that's called (literally translated) high mountain road. Now keep in mind that I can't be more than 50 meters above sea level and at least a couple hundred miles from anything resembling a mountain.

Then again, in the neighborhood where I was born all the streets are named after Dutch naval war heroes from the 17th century so that's cool.
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#22067 Jun 11 2013 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
We've got some cool ones here. One of my friends lives on Panda Lane, and my landlord who is only a couple blocks away lives on Cheshire St. I want to live on Cheshire St., that'd be awesome! My street's name is boring. Smiley: frown
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#22068 Jun 11 2013 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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It's a lot easier to just number streets when you have more than ten of them.
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#22069 Jun 11 2013 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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You're just lazy, even your city planners are lazy, they didn't draw up anything they just handed in a bunch of math paper and called it a day.
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I live on The Station Avenue. Sounds fancy, but it's really not.
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#22072 Jun 11 2013 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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So there's going to be an Elder Scrolls MMO.

Now, I haven't played any of the series but I've heard plenty of good things about it so I'm vaguely interested in the MMO. Anyone here following it with more than passing interest?


Edit: The gameplay trailer at least looks pretty cool, although I'm no fan of the character design (I prefer a little more cartoony as you're just not going to get enough realism in an MMO).



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#22073 Jun 11 2013 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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I find it funny that fans essentially forced them to implement the first-person mode... and that's essentially the primary viewpoint of this trailer. XD

I hope the implementation wasn't half-assed.
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#22074 Jun 12 2013 at 3:57 AM Rating: Good
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I don't really care, I'll play in 3rd person mode anyway. But seriously, any thoughts on the game beyond first person view?
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no my main thought process was all about the first person view point and its impact on game play.

what the fuck are you talking about?
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Hopefully the 3rd person view will be better than in Skyrim. *shudder*

In other news, I'm now done with my exams and get to call myself a teacher.
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#22077 Jun 12 2013 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: boozing


Cheers Maz!
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#22078 Jun 12 2013 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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Grats Maz!


And I'm reserving all judgement until I actually play the game. I don't want to form any expectations and then judge it off of them. Unfortunately, calling itself ESO means that certain things automatically comes to mind. Regardless of trying to reserve judgement, I'll be disappointed if it's not open-world, if it doesn't have an open-ended character development system, and if I can't pick up an absurd number of useless items around the game.

I know I've seen aspects of the above, so I can go into it with an open mind.

The one thing I will say is that I'm happy it's coming to the PS4, too. I'm of the opinion that MMOs should probably be looking to expand their platforms with the current market system. Not that I consider this universal - some games would not work well on a console - but it's a trend I'm happy about.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I don't really care, I'll play in 3rd person mode anyway. But seriously, any thoughts on the game beyond first person view?
I'm certainly going to give it a try whenever it goes free-to-play. Failing that, I'll give it a year or so at least and see how it pans out. There's a lot of potential there, but the bar is pretty high for them as well. I fear this will be another MMO that turns out to be pretty decent but never lives up to the hype and the fans expectations. Something akin to SWTOR.

As for the "realism" that's Elder Scrolls in general. It's never been cartoony, and goes for that realistic dark-medieval kind of appearance.

As for the first person, is that going to be required? In skyrim I found myself swapping between 1st and 3rd with some frequency. It was obviously easier to see what was going on around you in 3rd person, but I found it harder to aim a bow or spell accurately. One of those things I'd often be in 1st person at range and 3rd person during melee. I'll be interested to see how it all plays out.

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#22080 Jun 12 2013 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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In other news, I'm now done with my exams and get to call myself a teacher.
Nothing was really stopping you from calling yourself a teacher before the exams, though. The only difference is now people might have to pay you for it.

Congratulations.
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In other news, I'm now done with my exams and get to call myself a teacher.
Congrats Maz. Good Luck and don't get frustrated. It can be a very rewarding profession.

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And I'm reserving all judgement until I actually play the game. . . . I'll be disappointed if it's not open-world, if it doesn't have an open-ended character development system, and if I can't pick up an absurd number of useless items around the game.
No sense wasting words when digg has said it all. Nothing beats traipsing along a watercourse grabbing butterflies and shooting crabs.

I too am hoping it won't turn out to be another SWTOR.




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#22082 Jun 12 2013 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, if butterfly catching isn't something I'll accidentally spend 50% of my game time doing, I will not be satisfied.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Yeah, if butterfly catching isn't something I'll accidentally spend 50% of my game time doing, I will not be satisfied.
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It's fun times when your goal when you log in is to catch as many butterflies as possible so you'll have potions for your next dungeon crawl.
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#22084 Jun 12 2013 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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No no no no no, you misunderstand.

I want to log in with the intention of raiding the biggest, baddest boss in the game, but accidentally end up chasing butterflies and running away from bears instead.

It's just not an ES game otherwise.
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Has anyone ever mentioned that you might be gay?

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**** butterflies. I spent so many arrows shooting them out of the air.
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Has anyone ever mentioned that you might be gay?

Smiley: wink


Well that would explain the odd way I just ate that ear of corn...
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If you were really **** you wouldn't be running away from a bear.
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#22091 Jun 12 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
Grats on your degree Maz!

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So Aeth, discussion in the General Game forum suggest ESO is going to be PVP-centric.
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Well that would explain the odd way I just ate that ear of corn...
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And there goes my interest in the game Smiley: tongue
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Yeah, I'm trying really, REALLY hard to not let that bias me. But the lack of player housing isn't helping either. If I'm not supposed to be saving up for the biggest mansion I can find, what's the point???

I'll probably just continue trying to ignore the game until its popular enough that it's unavoidable.
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I really don't give a flying **** about player housing, I care about good PvE and in the past few years PvP centric MMO seems to mean mass PvP and there is nothing dumber than mass PvP.
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I feel like largescale PVP could be interesting, if there was any actual way to direct people and it wasn't just everyone running amok. What that would mean in practice, I don't know. The only thing I can imagine is restricting whatever points the system uses specifically to their ability to fulfill the objective of their group, with the bulk of earned points coming from victory? Plus access to real direction tools by the group leader?

Since they're already going to have rank systems, automatically place the highest-ranked characters in the zone at the match start into those roles, have them select their group objectives, and go from there?

I imagine it would either be an amazing system, or the worst system ever, with very little room for anything in the middle.

Say it's a cap of 40 players, 5 player groups. The 8 top-ranked players would become group leaders, and the remaining people would be shuffled those groups evenly.

Then the group leader will select some objectives, and some tactical points on the map, for the start of the match. With the ability to change them on the fly throughout the match?

If a kill isn't going to reward a player with anything, unless it's a kill in service of their objective, and those kills are insignificant compared to victory, it MIGHT work.

Might.
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Well, the hope is that the highest ranked players in a match would have an understanding of PVP tactics, and actually speak to each other to decide on tactics.

Of course, if the top PVPers don't want to do the largescale PVP, that's not going to solve anything.
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I don't mind the occasional million versus million stuff, but really it's just chaos. It looks so cool at first glance and quickly fades away into one big ball of fire DPS race. I'll take a 2v3 around a flag any day.
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So Aeth, discussion in the General Game forum suggest ESO is going to be PVP-centric.
O.K. I missed that. Thanks for mentioning it. What the **** does PVP-centric mean?

I know what PvP is. The discussion makes it sound like the game will center on PvP with maybe a bit of PvE to get the PvPers leveled up. That means I mentally strike it from my list of "must do" games. So it is said, so it is done. (All hail Ramses the Great.)

But then I read a bit of this poorly written, sycophantic info and it made me curious enough to read a bit more in the "gameplay" area of that site. My hope is restored and the game is physically unstricken (I just made that word up). It sounds an awful lot like GW2 in the sense that it is a single PvP zone with three factions fighting over different objectives in large scale fights, etc. The plan is for it to mean something and have some impact on the PvE aspect, from what I can glean.

Not too horrible, as long as the "impact" is nothing too impactful. It seems that they are maybe going to have the main boss available only to the faction that controls . . . something . . . PvP-wise. If that's true, it won't last long. How long will one faction have solo access to the main boss before everyone interested in raiding the main boss switches to that faction? Maybe if they limited the amount of time the main boss could be accessed, and gave the faction that controls that something PvP-wise a little longer access time, I could see it working.

So, hopefully, the "ESO will be PvP-centric" is either a dumb rumor or the developers' way of trying to garner interest with PvP-centric types. Remember, this is no longer The Age of Aquarius. Today, lies sell and being truthful is for the hopeless and naive.

But, still, no personal housing? Whaaaa???!!?!? I was hoping to invite Maz to my place and shoot an arrow into his knee. Or sneak into Digg's place and steal his butterfly collection.


EDIT: to, too, two.


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