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#102 Jun 15 2009 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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#showtooltip 
/cast <insert shot here> 
/cast Silencing Shot


Just make that for Steady, Chimera, Aimed and Arcane and your Silencing shots will fire whenever they're ready.
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Quick trinket question--I just won Fury of the Five Flights today (woooo! /dance), and I'm trying to figure out which of my other trinkets to pair with it. It's a choice between Loatheb's Shadow and Mirror of Truth, and I'm really not sure whether the proc or the use is better for me as my crit is not especially high (27% and a bit with raid buffs up). I'm leaning toward the Mirror so I can be lazy and not have to click on anything, but any input is appreciated. I'm BM at the moment if that makes any difference.

and y'all already know I can't use the spreadsheet. <.<
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#104 Jul 02 2009 at 5:00 AM Rating: Good
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I hope to be in that same boat soon. I'm currently leaning toward keeping Loatheb's Shadow because I have terrible luck with RNG. The vast majority of my Lock n' Loads proc right as the boss teleports to an unreachable spot or it's time to dodge something painful. With a clickable effect I can time it up when I know I can hold still for a while and/or link it up with rapid fire or heroism.

When in doubt keep both and equip the one that feels right for the fight.
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Quick trinket question--I just won Fury of the Five Flights today (woooo! /dance), and I'm trying to figure out which of my other trinkets to pair with it. It's a choice between Loatheb's Shadow and Mirror of Truth, and I'm really not sure whether the proc or the use is better for me as my crit is not especially high (27% and a bit with raid buffs up). I'm leaning toward the Mirror so I can be lazy and not have to click on anything, but any input is appreciated. I'm BM at the moment if that makes any difference.


Get the Greatness Darkmoon deck, probably the best trinket to pair with Fury imo.

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#106 Jul 02 2009 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
I'm pretty sure the mirror is better, but I haven't done much hunter work lately.
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#107 Jul 03 2009 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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Loatheb's shadow:
Use: Increases attack power by 670 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)
Using it every cooldown it is up 20 sec every 120 sec or 1 out of 6 seconds giving:
670/6 = 111.666..... Attack Power.

Mirror of Truth:
Equip: Chance on melee and ranged critical strike to increase your attack power by 1000 for 10 secs.
Going by wowhead comments, it averages at 1 proc per minute, giving it the same uptime as Shadow for a result of:
1000/6 = 166.666..... Attack Power.


So basically, you trade 55 AP for controlling when you burst.
If you're unlucky on procs, the shadow is better (like I was in DtK... 3 LnL procs, 3x during skelly phase -.-)
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Loatheb's shadow:
Use: Increases attack power by 670 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)
Using it every cooldown it is up 20 sec every 120 sec or 1 out of 6 seconds giving:
670/6 = 111.666..... Attack Power.

Mirror of Truth:
Equip: Chance on melee and ranged critical strike to increase your attack power by 1000 for 10 secs.
Going by wowhead comments, it averages at 1 proc per minute, giving it the same uptime as Shadow for a result of:
1000/6 = 166.666..... Attack Power.


So basically, you trade 55 AP for controlling when you burst.
If you're unlucky on procs, the shadow is better (like I was in DtK... 3 LnL procs, 3x during skelly phase -.-)


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Thank you!

I figured it would be something like that, but seeing the numbers is a huge help. :D
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#109 Jul 03 2009 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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It's not very complicated math though, you can do it yourself with the built in calc and wowhead :P
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#110 Jul 03 2009 at 1:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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<-- is someone who bought hardened adamantite tubes for her warrior's goggles instead of figuring out whether raw mats would be cheaper because the math made her head hurt.

I did read through the WoWhead comments but I was a little fuzzy on how much it would be worth to someone with low crit chance and bad luck on procs combined. Knowing that, under good circumstances, it's only a 55 AP difference, is making me think Loatheb's Shadow is the way to go.
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#111 Jul 03 2009 at 1:53 PM Rating: Default
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it's only a 55 AP difference


You're not quite the min/maxer, eh ;)?

I'd go for Shadow too, controlling when you use it can be nice sometimes.
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You're not quite the min/maxer, eh ;)?

I'd go for Shadow too, controlling when you use it can be nice sometimes.


More like I lose that much anyway when the Rets insist on blessing something other then Might, and that's only if I don't end up with really **** timing on procs (woo Gothik just switched to the other side!)

But yeah.

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#113 Jul 07 2009 at 6:32 AM Rating: Default
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i got a quick question, does your speed effect volley shots at all? i.e. the faster your speed is the more "shots" volley will get in
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The more haste you have, the quicker Volley will be over.
It will however, keep the same amount of shots.

So if you normally have 6 seconds and 6 volley shots, with heroism/bloodlust it'll be 4 seconds and 6 shots.
(numbers are not exact, at all, but it shows the idea)
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#115 Jul 07 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Default
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ty for clearing that up.

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#116 Jul 14 2009 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a lvl 14 troll hunter. I have read that BM is the best tree for solo leveling (I do plan to do some instances here and there as I level). Is this a good build to level with?

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Improved aspect of the hawk seems like a nifty talent, should I substitute that for endurance training? Should I put 5 points into raising my crit chance immediately or should I wait until I fill out the BM tree then put points into the marksman tree? Thanks for any advice.
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You don't really want Thick Hide or Pathfinding, those are generally a waste of points.
And you certainly want Longevity as it gives a lot more BIGREDPET time.

And you can pick Imp. AotH or Endurance training, and catlike Reflexes or Ferocious Inspiration based on whether you want more survivability or more damage.

Personally, I just went with roughly this build while leveling to get more damage. (and Aimed Shot because I leveled on a PvP realm)
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#118 Aug 04 2009 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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I hope this is a simple question.

I've been using the crafted Nesingwary 4000 gun for a while now. Last night I won the roll on Arrowsong.

Running it though Warcrafter with the same Heartseeker scope (+40 crit) and ammo it tells me I have lost AP but gained DPS. AP is down by 19 but DPS is up by 15.

Autoshot seems to be about 20% of my damage from recent WWS.

I've been concentrating on maxing AP but this made me think about it. The purpose of AP is to increase my DPS then a straight DPS increase is better than just having more AP?

Am I going round in circles here or does it make sense to switch to the bow?
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**** warcrafter, use Femaledwarf. :)
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#120 Aug 04 2009 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Thank you. That is a very nice site.

It does however say exactly the same thing. Arrowsong gives me higher dps but less AP.

I suppose I'll just have to find out by using it.
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Now, why would you ever want less dps?
Honestly, Femaledwarf says exactly how much dps you can do in theory on a 6 minute stand and shoot fight with the buffs you specified.

You should be trying to get that number as high as possible, then try to get as close to it as possible on actual fights.
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#122 Aug 10 2009 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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I had a question regarding the mechanics of traps.
When the Frost trap goes off, any mobs in the area are obviously affected. Mobs that enter the area after the trap goes off are affected as well. Does the Explosive trap work in the same manner? i.e. I drop a Frost Trap and an Explosive Trap that go off together and hit a group. Another mob enters the aoe and is slowed by the frost, but is it affected by the Exposive Trap DOT as well? In the same vein, do mobs that leave the aoe of Explosive Trap lose the DOT?
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It works the same way, as I think explosive trap is sort of an aura that does damage to each mob inside it every x seconds.
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#124 Aug 15 2009 at 9:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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How important is Hit Rating, exactly?

I've always gone for hit cap above all else, which means using a couple gems for hit instead of agility. I've been messing around with the online spreadsheet, though, and it seems as if, as long as there's a Draenei in the party, I do a lot better adding in an extra agi gem instead of a hit one. Yeah, I know, obvious, but it's not something I'd really considered before.

What do you guys think, as an Alliance hunter is it reasonable to go for 7% hit instead of 8% on the assumption that there will be a Draenei there when it really matters, or am I better off going for cap regardless of any buffs from group members?
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#125 Aug 15 2009 at 10:26 PM Rating: Good
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On my nelf I really only geared for 7% hit.
And if you are not hitcapped, 1 hit rating gives about 1.5-2 times as much dps as 1 agility, fully raid buffed.
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#126 Aug 15 2009 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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On my nelf I really only geared for 7% hit.
And if you are not hitcapped, 1 hit rating gives about 1.5-2 times as much dps as 1 agility, fully raid buffed.


What I was seeing was a bigger DPS increase in one more agi gem plus Draenei aura over one more hit gem than in one more hit gem over one more agi gem. When you say fully raid buffed do you mean with or without the Draenei buff?

I probably shouldn't worry so much about this, I'm not too far under cap (7.5% atm). Smiley: tongue I want to make sure I'm getting the right epic gems cut now that I've talked my hubby into picking up the hit and agi designs first, though.
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#127 Aug 16 2009 at 1:39 AM Rating: Good
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You should always have a draenei in your raid really.
Unless you only run 10 mans, but even then draenei's are a fairly popular race.

And you know best whether you have a draenei in your group in raids or not. (and if there's one in your raid but not your group, pester the RL into putting said draenei in your group)

So you know best if you should gear for 7 or 8% hit.
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Yeah, I'll probably have a better idea of what I need once I'm actually in a guild again. Thanks though. :)

I've been talking with the leader of the guild I raided with from the end of BC to early Wrath and she wants me back, but I'll be deciding for sure once my new computer gets here on Monday and I can actually try out a few runs with them. The officer who caused trouble for me before isn't an officer any longer, so I should be okay with them.
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#129 Aug 16 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Aah, guild drama. The joy!

Why did you have issues with the guy?
I really only get issues with officers if they are worse players than I am, cause then I go provoke them until the drama starts.
Especially if they are classleaders and/or think they're really good players.

Thankfully, there's very few of said people on forums, as they are the kind that tends to not even have the slightest motivation to improve themselves.
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#130 Aug 16 2009 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ugh...If I remember correctly he whispered me while I was in H UK and started bugging me to drop group and spec SV to run 10-man EoE. I told him that I'd be happy to go but that going SV was a little tricky for me atm because I had very low crit and I would have to regem all of my gear from AP to Agi to get decent results as well as take 10 minutes to set up my action bars and notifiers for SV. I didn't really want to respec, but since it was an officer asking I would do it to help guild progression. He wasn't willing to wait 10 minutes, though, and followed up with an unneccessary spiel about how I was bad DPS and didn't know my class if I couldn't respec in the blink of an eye. Note here--I was second out of 5-6 hunters, and even there it was very close and mainly just gear differences because I'd started raiding late due to living with my inlaws for a few months. Not bad DPS by any means, and he knew it, he was just being an ass.

It was a good thing I didn't respec for him, though, because that guild run of EoE he needed me for? Wasn't a guild run, it was a pug led by a DK we'd gkicked for poor attendence, specifically pugging runs with other guilds during our scheduled raids and refusing to drop group so he could join the guild run. Asshole. Of course I brought this up to the only other officer online, pointing out that I felt as if officer #1 had been trying to trick me into respecing for a pug and abusing his position as an officer--I was told to shut up and grow a thicker skin and what the first guy did and said was totally appropriate.

So yeah, I left.

I've always gotten along with the couple that runs the guild, though, and since officer 1 is not even core raider rank anymore and officer 2 left long ago to follow the loot, I'm willing to give them another try.
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#131 Sep 27 2009 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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hello i want some help to try to improve my hunters dps that isn't just gear,gems and enchants, could anyone look over my wws and tell me if am doing ok.

WWS http://wowwebstats.com/yvwvnewwhgcwo?m

My char: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Auchindoun&n=Deathsite

my pets spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#zMd00fM0zhzo

any help would be great thank you



Edited, Sep 27th 2009 10:43am by scottyjames
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hello i want some help to try to improve my hunters dps that isn't just gear,gems and enchants, could anyone look over my wws and tell me if am doing ok.

WWS http://wowwebstats.com/yvwvnewwhgcwo?m

My char: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Auchindoun&n=Deathsite

my pets spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#zMd00fM0zhzo

any help would be great thank you



Edited, Sep 27th 2009 10:43am by scottyjames


I'm a bit out of practice, so I'll leave the WWS for someone else. It looks like you're not making any stupid mistakes like using Arcane Shot though, which is good.

Spec looks fine to me.

You're missing a ton of gems and enchants, which could really help you out. Get an enchant on that helm--if you don't have the rep or gold, at least grab one from WG, it'll give you a bit of a boost. And at least pick up a scope for that gun, it's cheap.

You're over hit cap by a fair amount, so keep an eye out for hit rating free drops since you don't appear to have any hit gems to replace. Switching from leather to mail will help with this, and also give you a larger mana pool (less time spent in viper).

Pet spec is bad. Drop Heart of the Phoenix and Lick Your Wounds, pull one point out of Bloodthirsty. Fill up Avoidance, get Rabid, and put a point into Wild Hunt.
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#133 Sep 27 2009 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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an enchant on that helm--if you don't have the rep or gold, at least grab one from WG, it'll give you a bit of a boost. And at least pick up a scope for that gun, it's cheap.


yeh am going to replace the helm with t8.5 after i brought the back from the vendor and i will enchant the gun now thanks
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You're missing 8 enchants, 4 gems and you have a slack enchant on your cloak.
Get a wolf and spec it with rabid and wild hunt.
You are wearing craptons of leather gear, in WotLK leather gear is pretty much never better than equal ilevel mail gear.

Edit: the only thing I see really wrong about your WWS is that you have really low % on steady damage.
It's hard to judge from heroic fights but I'm guessing you are wasting time and not shooting enough.

Edited, Sep 27th 2009 10:24pm by Aethien
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ok i updated a few items with enchants 85 attack on staff, crit and hit on boots and 40 crit on my gun, and i have gemed everything up with agi, green gems atm because i don't have the cash to buy blue.

also i love my raptor i won't replace him with a wolf should i be able to hold my own in raids now or keep trying for the mail shoulders/wep out of toc hc?

ok i just did voa here is the report

http://wowwebstats.com/fq25djqwuerh3?a=x7000000000e933b&s=73031-109186

it didn't get the first boss through

Edited, Sep 29th 2009 5:58pm by scottyjames
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I have a question on mobs blocking attacks. I have recently read that physical ranged attacks can be blocked. I've also read that bosses can't block attacks made from behind them. Is this also true for physical ranged attacks?

I've always just stood with the casters who often sit right in front of the mob. Have I been gimping myself all this time?
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Bosses rarely, if ever, block an attack and they block for little damage.
And it's simply not worth it to move out of the group for it.

Unless of course, you need to spread out.
Then it will give you just that tiny bit more dps to stand behind the mob.



A prot paladin however... ugh... Plate + Shield + damage reduction abilities + loads of block and blockvalue. Smiley: mad
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Thanks for the info Aethien.

It's funny you mentioned prot paladins because that's what triggered my question. I was having a conversation with one about how expertise is a poor hunter stat. We were talking about avoidance/mitigation and ranged attacks and he mentioned that he noticed how much "blocked" came up on his screen while dueling hunters. It lead me to wonder if it was a big issue in PvE that I had never thought of before.

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Expertise doesn't reduce block to begin with though, it only reduces parry and dodge.
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How do I link to femaledwarf or any linkable spreadsheet?

Trying to help a guild hunter, want to link the site with him loaded plus some changes.

Also if I want for him to have True Shot where is the best spot to take a point from?

edit: Never mind I found it on the site. In the load setting option menu they have a link button next to the delete one.

Edited, Nov 21st 2009 11:57pm by Horsemouth
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#141 Nov 23 2009 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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No point for a hunter to take TSA unless you don't have an enh or blood DK.
Both their buffs overwrite TSA.
And in 10 mans SV > MM by a large margin.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
No point for a hunter to take TSA unless you don't have an enh or blood DK.
Both their buffs overwrite TSA.


That sucks, aura should be top since you get personal benefit from using it. Smiley: frown

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Sets your friendly target as your focus, otherwise sets your pet as your focus.

Yes it took me an hour to finally figure out how to specify a friendly target. >.<

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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
No point for a hunter to take TSA unless you don't have an enh or blood DK.
Both their buffs overwrite TSA.
And in 10 mans SV > MM by a large margin.


We don't always have someone else to buff AP in a 10 man but point taken.

He does more DPS as MM and we have a lock for replenishment.
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Then he probably fails at SV rotation Smiley: grin
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Then he probably fails at SV rotation Smiley: grin


Ya I'll try and get a WWS for you to dissect.

edit:

I forgot this week. :(

Edited, Nov 25th 2009 6:32am by Horsemouth
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#146 Dec 15 2009 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
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Just a quickie - where does the Hand-mounted Pyro-rocket go in the priority list for SV (and maybe for BM&MM, too, if the place differs)?
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#147 Dec 15 2009 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Since it's not on the GCD, you should macro it into each shot so it fires whenever it's off cooldown.
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#148 Dec 16 2009 at 2:13 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Since it's not on the GCD, you should macro it into each shot so it fires whenever it's off cooldown.

/facepalm
next time I'll check ingame first beforre asking...
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#149 Dec 29 2009 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
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would this Mjolnir Runestone be a upgrade for my hunter over Mirror of Truth i just don't really understand armor pen

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Edited, Dec 29th 2009 7:43pm by scottyjames
#150 Dec 30 2009 at 2:12 AM Rating: Good
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scottyjames wrote:
would this Mjolnir Runestone be a upgrade for my hunter over Mirror of Truth i just don't really understand armor pen
here is my armory
Edited, Dec 29th 2009 7:43pm by scottyjames

http://femaledwarf.com says that the best combo is mjolnir/mirror, ditching the banner... generally, the femaledwarf answers 99% of complicated gear questions :)
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#151 Dec 30 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the link ^^ also how much armor pen is needed for mm to see a bigger dps jump then my build because 200 more dps isn't that great for a spec i hate
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