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#52 Apr 18 2009 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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Kill shot -> Explosive shot -> black arrow -> Explosive shot -> serpent sting -> aimed/multi -> steady.
Fixed, you want to maximize Black Arrow uptime so shoot that before Explosive shot, as the damage gain from having a higher uptime on BA is larger than the gain of shooting your explosives earlier.

The reason you don't do that with Serpent sting is that you can refresh it any time, for example if my ExS is off cooldown in 1.5 seconds and my Serpent Sting ends at the same time, I'm going to refresh SrS now and shoot an explosive when it comes off cooldown.
You can't do that with Black Arrow, and black arrow is a twice as large dps gain as SrS.
I thought I had read you saying the opposite, sorry.
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#53 Apr 20 2009 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Is anyone else having trouble with Call of the Wild setting itself to autocast, similar to the Cower/Prowl bugginess? It's driving me crazy, personally I don't think anything with such a long cooldown should be able to autocast at all. >.<


Well, wolves can't prowl so at least you have an open spot on the cast bar for CotW.
#54 Apr 23 2009 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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The other day I was reminded of something. It seemed my pet was losing happiness pretty fast, and then it wouldn't eat the food I had. Reminding my that there are levels to food. My question is: Is there a addon that will display a foods "level" so I'll know what food to keep and what to get rid of? Btw, I'm using a Bear as my pet of choice right now because I'm leveling.
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Now that I finally made it to the Outlands I was wondering if either of the two factions, Aldor/Scryer, was better for a Hunter. Or, would I be better not worrying about it at all since I plan to get to Northrend as fast as possible?

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#56 Apr 23 2009 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Now either faction isn't as important the only difference would be in your professions- and those would only be geared at level 70 max. For my hunter at the time, BM was the spec of choice so I went Aldor for the AP/Crit enchant to shoulders. Now that enchant is given by the Sons of Hodir. Look at faction rewards for your professions and gain rep in that faction if you choose, but I wouldn't bother trying to grind it out (unless you are bored!)
#57 Apr 23 2009 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lastar wrote:
The other day I was reminded of something. It seemed my pet was losing happiness pretty fast, and then it wouldn't eat the food I had. Reminding my that there are levels to food. My question is: Is there a addon that will display a foods "level" so I'll know what food to keep and what to get rid of? Btw, I'm using a Bear as my pet of choice right now because I'm leveling.


For most food descriptions it says the minimum level you need to be to use it. I think (I haven't tried to feed my pet low level food for a while) that your pet will eat the 2 food levels below it (it may only be one food level.. Ex: a level 70 pet will eat level 65 food) for meats that you obtain from mobs, go with the same general guideline: if you kill a 65 creature, your 70 pet will eat the meat. If you kill a level 30 creature, it won't. "Cooked" foods or meats/cheese/breads you buy from vendors will give you pet max point towards happiness, where meat off mobs may not.

Also, the pet talent in each tree will give your pet happiness- almost eliminating the need for food unless you have your pet die multiple times!

EDIT: fixed a mistake



Edited, Apr 23rd 2009 11:42pm by browningguns
#58 Apr 23 2009 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the answers to both questions. I have to say I didn't realize that cooked foods were better than raw. I would have sworn that it made no difference, but maybe that's something that changed between the time I started my Hunter (a long time ago) to now.
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#59 Apr 23 2009 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry... I wrote the wrong response there.. the uncooked meat from mobs may not give full happiness... here is a rundown.

Monitor the Combat Log of your chat box to see how much happiness your pet gets from the food. If the level of the food is 35-25 levels lower then the pet it gains 8 Happiness per tick, If the level of the food is level 25-15 it gains 17 happiness, if the level of the food is 15 levels lower or higher it gains 35 happiness.

Food for pets can be purchased from vendors. Vendors typically only sell one type of food, and finding the specific vendor(s) your pet needs can be problematic for pets with restrictive diets.

If your pet eats fish, cooked fish is amazingly cheap at fishing-related vendors. For example, a full stack of Longjaw Mud Snapper is less than 1 silver and pets up to 36 will eat it for middle (17 per tick) happiness gain.

You can take a pet that eats meat and hunt mobs that drop meat. These pets are the easiest to maintain.

Pets which eat meat will eat the meat which is not food to you (no health restored tooltip), uncooked (for example, Mystery Meat). It is frequently top tier, happiness wise, if the mobs are your pet's level.

You can take up Fishing and choose a pet that will eat fish. This will save money as compared to buying food, but fishing can take a lot of time, so there's a trade off.

Pets that eat bread can eat food conjured by mages.

If your pet has a DoT debuff (from a poison or bleed effect), make sure to use Mend Pet or wait for the DoT effect to end before feeding it. Otherwise, the next tick of damage will cancel the Feed effect.

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#60 Apr 23 2009 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
I would recommend hunters get the mend pet glyph that adds happiness to your pet. Never have to worry about food again.
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#61 Apr 23 2009 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
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Xsarus wrote:
I would recommend hunters get the mend pet glyph that adds happiness to your pet. Never have to worry about food again.


Is this glyph still bugged?
#62 Apr 23 2009 at 8:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would recommend hunters get the mend pet glyph that adds happiness to your pet. Never have to worry about food again.


Is this glyph still bugged?
It was only every bugged for BM hunters that also had imp mend pet. It works fine other then that.
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#63 Apr 25 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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would i be able to stay BM spec if i want to do HCs and not do raiding or would i lose too much dps am only 71 atm
#64 Apr 25 2009 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
I'm not sure what HC means, but Assuming it means heroics yeah, you'll be fine. The dps demand isn't that high, and BM isn't that far behind.
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#65 Apr 25 2009 at 1:27 PM Rating: Default
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yeh it means heroics sorry off to level my hunter ^^
#66 Apr 26 2009 at 7:19 AM Rating: Default
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Okay, I'd search, but I'm not a premium member, sorry. I try to tame a pet and get the message "You have too many pets already". If i hit Call pet, I get "Your pet is dead". I try to dismiss and get message "You do not have a pet".

Do I have to find my dead pet, revive, and dismiss in order to tame a new pet?
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#67 Apr 26 2009 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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You need to revive your pet (no need to find it's corpse just use revive pet) and then either abandon or stable it before you can tame a new pet.
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#68 Apr 26 2009 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Ah ha! Thanks much Aethien! Little different than EQ in that aspect.
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#69Vamera, Posted: May 01 2009 at 7:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Can someone show me an example talent tree for a Hunter spec?
#70 May 01 2009 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Here is an example of a talent spec for a hunter.

















It's a god awful one, but hey... you didn't specify anything.
You probably should have read the first post too.
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#71 May 01 2009 at 12:39 PM Rating: Default
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I lol'd, Glyph of Possessed Strength + Concussive Barrage is where it's at!
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I may have to quote that out of context at some point. Smiley: lol
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#73 May 03 2009 at 7:48 AM Rating: Default
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Here is an example of a talent spec for a hunter.


Thanks a lot! It definitely gives me something to go on!
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Ok, so you're either a troll or you just really fail at reading.
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#75 May 05 2009 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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Ok, feeling like a total huntard, but, where can I find the lvl 15 spell Scatter Shot?:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=19503

I've Googled, checked the threads, and have a feeling the answer is right in front of my face.
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#76 May 05 2009 at 9:44 AM Rating: Default
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Vamera wrote:
Thanks a lot! It definitely gives me something to go on!


My gawd open your eyes! There isn't a single point in Aspect of the Hawk!!!

edited: I mean, I guess it could be reworked for PVP considering where some of the points are, but it'd take more than just a tweak or three. Then again, I'm still learning the talent trees, but geesh man, Hawk is a baseline for any build.

Edited, May 5th 2009 12:47pm by tueval
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#77 May 05 2009 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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My gawd open your eyes! There isn't a single point in Aspect of the Hawk!!!

edited: I mean, I guess it could be reworked for PVP considering where some of the points are, but it'd take more than just a tweak or three. Then again, I'm still learning the talent trees, but geesh man, Hawk is a baseline for any build.


And this from the guy asking where Scatter Shot is?

Look on the Survival Tree at Tier 3.

Scatter Shot is a talented ability rather than simply a trained one.
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But it's listed as a lvl 15 spell on alla, hence, my confusion as none of the 1st tiers of talents are listed as lvl 10; however, point duly noted and taken.
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My gawd open your eyes! There isn't a single point in Aspect of the Hawk!!!

edited: I mean, I guess it could be reworked for PVP considering where some of the points are, but it'd take more than just a tweak or three. Then again, I'm still learning the talent trees, but geesh man, Hawk is a baseline for any build.


You made a huge fool of yourself just FYI.

That spec isn't meant for PvP. Or anything. Ever. No matter WHAT. Aethien made the most terrible spec possible, not an actual suggestion.

I'm kind of wondering, if you looked at it, how did you NOT notice Scatter Shot on there?
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I wasn't looking for scatter shot. And, i didn't say it WAS a pvp build, i said it could be overhauled as one; I'd suggest reading comprehension is our friend, but apparently we've both failed at it.

More, the point by Cobra was duly noted and well taken, as is your piling on after.


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My gawd open your eyes! There isn't a single point in Aspect of the Hawk!!!

edited: I mean, I guess it could be reworked for PVP considering where some of the points are, but it'd take more than just a tweak or three. Then again, I'm still learning the talent trees, but geesh man, Hawk is a baseline for any build.


You made a huge fool of yourself just FYI.

That spec isn't meant for PvP. Or anything. Ever. No matter WHAT. Aethien made the most terrible spec possible, not an actual suggestion.

I'm kind of wondering, if you looked at it, how did you NOT notice Scatter Shot on there?
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#81 May 06 2009 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
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#82 May 06 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I wasn't looking for scatter shot. And, i didn't say it WAS a pvp build, i said it could be overhauled as one; I'd suggest reading comprehension is our friend, but apparently we've both failed at it.


Don't worry about me, apparently I fail at everything, right? Let's dissect this to make it easier for you:


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I wasn't looking for scatter shot.


Really?

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Ok, feeling like a total huntard, but, where can I find the lvl 15 spell Scatter Shot?


Well, doesn't that look familiar!

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And, i didn't say it WAS a pvp build, i said it could be overhauled as one.


You sure about that?

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I mean, I guess it could be reworked for PVP considering where some of the points are, but it'd take more than just a tweak or three.


Rework? Overhaul? I think the term you're looking for is "RESPEC".

Btw:
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That spec isn't meant for PvP.

I wasn't talking about changing it or using it as a baseline, I meant the spec that he posted.
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Now that you've had your little tantrum, feel better now? Get all your digs in? Last word (incoming I know)? Good, now maybe we can move on and let this thread be used what it's meant for?

/geesh
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#84 May 06 2009 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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No way man, this forum has posts from over a month ago on the front page. You're the most entertaining thing going in here.

C'mon, ask what teh best pet is.
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Now that you've had your little tantrum, feel better now? Get all your digs in? Last word (incoming I know)? Good, now maybe we can move on and let this thread be used what it's meant for?

/geesh
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Hey Aethien, would you mind posting a PvP spec for this guy? Maybe he'll understand what we're talking about.

Edit: Wtf, I'm asking a question, don't get all ****

Edited, May 6th 2009 4:40pm by Yuppley
#86 May 06 2009 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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No way man, this forum has posts from over a month ago on the front page. You're the most entertaining thing going in here.

C'mon, ask what teh best pet is.
I'm enjoying it Smiley: nod Tueval, just ignore Yuppley, he likes to fight.

Or of course you could have a massive meltdown, that would be amusing.
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0/15/56, go figure the rest out for yourself.
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Just so I don't look like a **** I prefer 0/14/57 ;).
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Xsarus wrote:
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No way man, this forum has posts from over a month ago on the front page. You're the most entertaining thing going in here.

C'mon, ask what teh best pet is.
I'm enjoying it Smiley: nod Tueval, just ignore Yuppley, he likes to fight.

Or of course you could have a massive meltdown, that would be amusing.


Would I have to speak that quasi-l337 shorthand during said meltdown like, "ur teh suck n00b!11!!" or some such? I really prefer not to, but if it'll keep the popcorn sales up, I'll take one for the team like that. ;-D

I walked away from this one learning a few things so it's all good. Namely, just because I'm a vet from EQ and LotRo doesn't mean I know jack with WoW--so, stfu and listen/RTFM before popping off mouth.

On a side note, I was perusing earlier in the thread and the pet feeding posts were darned enlightening. Also, I think I might have decided how I want to spec--Marksmanship. Means I'll have to repec--I was looking over the EJ list of baselines and stupidly/blindly missed "nice to have if your build can reach it" on a talent in Survival.

Anyway. Erm, thanks all for the lesson.
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#90 May 18 2009 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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so, stfu and listen/RTFM before popping off mouth.


Yo dawg don't be lippin me or I'll pop a cap in yo **** fasta than you be all "holla up in yo hood brah".

You're welcome, it's always nice to teach someone a lesson :)
#91 May 22 2009 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
What are your feelings to adding Wyvern sting into the mix? I like to cast one on the bosses,as well they are mostly immune to the sleep effect,they aren't immune to the extra damage effect and every little bit helps,and this leads to less steady shots...
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wyvern costs a lot of mana and overwrites serpent sting for very little extra damage, probably less damage than a steadyshot would do in the same place.


So no, using wyvern sting is not a good idea.
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#93 May 23 2009 at 3:35 AM Rating: Default
With this in mind What do you think about re-speccing to leave wvyern sting out,given that you loose the noxious stings skill as well? This is my current spec

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cZcxA0oZe00i0cIhehA0su:ALmMz0
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It's bad.


Go read the tooltips of imp. Humter's Mark, Careful Aim, Go for the Throat and try reading this thread, specifically the parts concerning Hunting Party and Expose Weakness.
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I may just suck at managing my threat, but I've been having a lot of trouble lately pulling off of a particular tank--he's a friend, though, and he knows what he's doing, so if it's a problem with him it has to be a gear issue, and I don't *think* his gear is that bad. I don't have problems with any other tanks, though, so I'm really not sure. All I know is I managed to pull Heigan off of him, twice. /me fails

Here's his Armory, and here's mine.

I try to run without any addons if possible, up until now the in-game threat meter has been sufficient, but it seems like it jumps up to yellow and one autoshot later I've pulled. It takes me almost no time after FD to get back up to 70% or so of his threat, whereas with most tanks I am much, much lower on threat than they are. I'm going to be picking up Omen again so I can keep a closer eye on things--maybe I'm not the only one keeping relatively high on threat--but I don't know if that will solve my problems so much as hopefully explain what's going on.

Also since I fail at managing my threat relative to his and I expect to be running Naxx with him a fair bit in the future, I am considering going back to BM. I have heard that it isn't too bad now, and that I can get away with leaving my agi gems in for when I want to switch back to SV (or if I buy dual spec). Respeccing will hopefully split the threat a little more evenly between me and my pet at least. I'm not sure on which glyphs to make, though--Bestial Wrath is an obvious choice, but I'm not sure what would be best out of the other options for a BM spec. I think I can live without Serpent Sting so long as there are pallies around so I'm not running out of mana refreshing it, so would Steady Shot and Kill Shot be the best choices for my other two? Or is there some awesome new combination floating around that I've lost track of while I've been specced SV?

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I'm pretty sure that that tank is just not very good at generating threat.
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It happened again, with different tank--I pulled Stalagg off the tank before the first toss. In a pug, too, so extra embarrassing...

Keeping MD up on the tank is tricky since the other hunters seem to put theirs up at random times (wish it was possible to have two mds up on the same tank >.<) and all I can think of is turning my pet's cower on and feeding him my threat instead.

Oh well, maybe I'll find a Spirit Beast? Smiley: rolleyes
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Keeping MD up on the tank is tricky since the other hunters seem to put theirs up at random times (wish it was possible to have two mds up on the same tank >.<) and all I can think of is turning my pet's cower on and feeding him my threat instead.


You just have terrible tanks, you really shouldn't be pulling threat like that. Oh, and DON'T start putting aggro onto your pet, waste of time/mana/focus.
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Was doing 3-4k in Naxx 10 tonight as BM, and only dropped down from first on the meters when I helped kite the chow with my hydra. It hurts because I know as Survival (or with pallies who didn't refuse to buff my pets) I could be doing a fair bit more, but I had no threat issues whatsoever, and I've got dual spec now so when my hubby starts raiding again I can switch back to SV for stuff with him. Seriously he's the only tank on the server that I trust now. >.<

I need to stop doing this to myself, joining crappy 10-man guilds and then trying to stick with them. I don't really want to have to look for another one yet though, and they have a gbank and tabard... Smiley: lol
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#100 Jun 13 2009 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
If you were pulling threat after MD'ing and Fd'ing, your tank was horrible. Really horrible.
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Is there anyone that can help me put together some macro's that combines any shot I do with silence shot?
I've heard that since it's no longer on the GCD, it can be a dps booster to further improve your dps.

Do I have to make macro's for every special or can it be shot with ny shot with just one button?

Thanks in advance guys.
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