Just recently I've respecced from my bastardized talents (Bit of everything) to mostly Prot.
I've got enough in Holy for Aura Mastery and Imp LoH and enough in Ret for SoC and PoJ, but reading some of the other posts in the forum, I'm seeing a lot of builds that completely ignore the Imp Dev aura. I can understand the usefulness of Redoubt, especially with a tanking build as it's a requisite for shield spec, but from what I've seen, unless you're in an instance and have a specific +resist aura up, Devotion seems to be the most popular one to have.
I'm curious; why, when you've a paladin, do you ignore the significant armor boost of the devotion aura?
As a ret pally, people are wearing mail to emulate shammy's, so dev aura would get you back up nearer around the plate gear, and as a squishy healadin, it could increase survivability.
I've found it to be a fairly useful aura, at any rate. When you're in a group, EVERYONE benefits from the massive +armor it gives. Squishies get the rating up around leather, leather becomes mail, mail becomes plate, and plate just ends up turning into a wall.
... that turned into more of a rant than I expected, but it baffles me, seeing others ignore a fairly useful bonus that you can get early on, and will last you (From what I've seen) to end-game.
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The bonus is a big thing early on :)
But in endgame its not huge, and theres almost always a better aura to reply.
But in endgame its not huge, and theres almost always a better aura to reply.
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I have found Improved Devotion Aura to be incredibly useful so far. From what I've heard/read, people deviate from this choice because there are cases in which Devotion is not the best thing to use. While this is true, I have found it to be excellent for soloing and invaluable for tanking.
If you are trying to build a Paladin that can take as much damage as possible, Improved Devotion Aura is practically required. Combined with a well-planned Holy tree and several more Protection talents, I've built a Paladin that is excellent at taking damage and an efficient and powerful self-healer to where I can last a long, long time under very heavy circumstances.
There are cases in which Devotion Aura won't be used or needed, of course, but that is true with every ability in the game. I say this is an excellent way to go if you aren't trying to be a pure healer or (God forbid) a DPS Paladin (Which do not exist, don't try it.)
Seriously though, if you are building for survivability this is where you want to be.
If you are trying to build a Paladin that can take as much damage as possible, Improved Devotion Aura is practically required. Combined with a well-planned Holy tree and several more Protection talents, I've built a Paladin that is excellent at taking damage and an efficient and powerful self-healer to where I can last a long, long time under very heavy circumstances.
There are cases in which Devotion Aura won't be used or needed, of course, but that is true with every ability in the game. I say this is an excellent way to go if you aren't trying to be a pure healer or (God forbid) a DPS Paladin (Which do not exist, don't try it.)
Seriously though, if you are building for survivability this is where you want to be.
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Just recently I've respecced from my bastardized talents (Bit of everything) to mostly Prot.
I've got enough in Holy for Aura Mastery and Imp LoH and enough in Ret for SoC and PoJ, but reading some of the other posts in the forum, I'm seeing a lot of builds that completely ignore the Imp Dev aura. I can understand the usefulness of Redoubt, especially with a tanking build as it's a requisite for shield spec, but from what I've seen, unless you're in an instance and have a specific +resist aura up, Devotion seems to be the most popular one to have.
I've got enough in Holy for Aura Mastery and Imp LoH and enough in Ret for SoC and PoJ, but reading some of the other posts in the forum, I'm seeing a lot of builds that completely ignore the Imp Dev aura. I can understand the usefulness of Redoubt, especially with a tanking build as it's a requisite for shield spec, but from what I've seen, unless you're in an instance and have a specific +resist aura up, Devotion seems to be the most popular one to have.
Redoubt > Improved Devotion Aura. Always.
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I'm curious; why, when you've a paladin, do you ignore the significant armor boost of the devotion aura?
Because by the end of the game, it's not a significant boost. It's a paltry boost at best, and the benefits other auras give you will outweigh Devotion in just about every situation except that in which there's another Paladin in your party already running the more desireable aura(s). Tanks should be running Retribution, healers should be running Concentration, DPS'ers should be running Sanctity.
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As a ret pally, people are wearing mail to emulate shammy's, so dev aura would get you back up nearer around the plate gear, and as a squishy healadin, it could increase survivability.
People are also stupid. Paladins should be in plate gear and should not ever be squishy, except when wearing cloth to heal, in which case Devotion is not going to help you much anyways.
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I've found it to be a fairly useful aura, at any rate. When you're in a group, EVERYONE benefits from the massive +armor it gives.
Like I said, by the end of the game, it's not even approaching massive.
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... that turned into more of a rant than I expected, but it baffles me, seeing others ignore a fairly useful bonus that you can get early on, and will last you (From what I've seen) to end-game.
I don't know what you've seen or think you've seen, but just wait until you get to end-game content yourself. Not many people will be running Devotion, or at least they shouldn't be. It's a negligible bonus for anyone armor actually needs to matter for (I.E. the tank), and makes little difference otherwise, not to mention being just generally not worth the other bonuses wrought by your other auras, especially in specialized roles.
EDIT: If you need any more evidence, ThelsDeKwant (who's been a long time advocate of Devotion Aura himself) has a thread theorizing some hard numbers with armor and Devotion Aura from later in the game that shows how abysmal it is.
Edited, Apr 29th 2007 4:39am by Gaudion
I appreciate the input, Gaudion. I haven't had much chance to play, recently, so my paladin's somewhat stuck at 56.5. Considering how I use my talent points, and I've enough money at the moment (saving for charger.), I'll probably work on a respec soon enough in order to use Ret more often than dev.
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