http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IiMrbMcZbgczIizctsz
Just wanted to throw this out there, Im liking the Heavy Demo I have atm, and now my points are spilling into Affliction.
Reading all the "Nightfall vs Empowered Corruption" comments from another thread definitely helped me make some decisions.
What bugs me is when I Deathcoil a player/mob, sometimes they run out of range just before I finish casting fear, gets really annoying, im hoping Grim Reach will help to remedy this.
·Theme
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- My lock is fast approaching 70, hows this build?
My lock is fast approaching 70, hows this build?Follow
What will you be doing at 70, raiding, farming, bg'ing, arena'ing, what?
I can't say anything smart about your build til I know your intentions.
That said, I'm not that big a fan of Imp CoA.
If you plan on farming high lvl stuff, you will wish you'd gone 3/3 in Dem Resil for the Felg.
You may wanna try 2/3 in mana feed and see if that's enough for you. You could at least go 2/3 in Dem resil then - or forego a pt in affl to get 3/3.
If you're pvping/bging, do you really not want Nightfall? Do you really not want D tactics? Are you sure you want all that affliction? Cuz you can spend 11 pts in Destr and get Shadowburn - and have an insta-cast DD - which is VERY useful in pvp.
Anyway, say how you plan to play.
I can't say anything smart about your build til I know your intentions.
That said, I'm not that big a fan of Imp CoA.
If you plan on farming high lvl stuff, you will wish you'd gone 3/3 in Dem Resil for the Felg.
You may wanna try 2/3 in mana feed and see if that's enough for you. You could at least go 2/3 in Dem resil then - or forego a pt in affl to get 3/3.
If you're pvping/bging, do you really not want Nightfall? Do you really not want D tactics? Are you sure you want all that affliction? Cuz you can spend 11 pts in Destr and get Shadowburn - and have an insta-cast DD - which is VERY useful in pvp.
Anyway, say how you plan to play.
Like the above post it depends on how you want to play. If you want your pet to be a tank I would move the 2 points in demo from Master Summoner to cap Demonic Resilience. 10% damage mitigation makes a big difference.
If your going to stay Demon spec then id put full points into demonic Resiliance...its an extra 15% damage mitigation, i find that kind of thing hard to pass up. I put points into Improved imp, just because often when i do instances i'll be either using Fel for off-tanking/dps or using imp for the stam boost, and with Demonic Knowledge the imp gives me the biggest spell dmg boost, so i can dps better.
Uhm, like they said, dunno what you want your build for, dunno what to say...
However I will point out two things.
1- 3/3 Mana Feed will be over-feeding you Felguard, 2 points is enough in almost any situation.
2- I'd always rather take the extra utility of Fel Concentration which has saved my butt countless times than Imp. CoA+Supression. Even thought you'll have to chop a point off Grim Reach or Empowered Corr. I think it is worth it for the extra PvE/PvP utility of being able to sustain a life drain.
My 2 cents
Azatodeth wrote:
1- 3/3 Mana Feed will be over-feeding you Felguard, 2 points is enough in almost any situation.
I have 3/3 in mana feed and never felt I was overfeeding him with it. Well, maybe I dont lifetap that often but why would I if I am not out of mana.....
Sethy wrote:
Azatodeth wrote:
1- 3/3 Mana Feed will be over-feeding you Felguard, 2 points is enough in almost any situation.
I have 3/3 in mana feed and never felt I was overfeeding him with it. Well, maybe I dont lifetap that often but why would I if I am not out of mana.....
Uhm, are you Demonology/affliction Sethy ?
To make a long story and data short, at 70 I have more than double the mana my Felguard has, and my Life taps returns Mana equal to more than 1/3 of my pets mana. I have one point in Mana Feed and usually manage alright, I do feel 2 would be a lot nicer, but 3 would be uncalled for, and playing demonology/affliction to its best, a waste as you would undoubtedly be overfeeding your pets mana by far most of the time.
So yeah, 2/3 is very nice and more than enough.
Having affliction draining talents I would find it quite self-defeating not to keep a steady health/mana cycle, which is easy, useful and safe, so truly overall better.
I must also confess say I am truly dumbfounded to be told that a warlock with a Felguard still only taps when out of mana, I thought it was basically newbish warlocks that did that, no offense meant.
No.
I have 7 points in affliction, 43 in demo and 11 in destro.
In the same amount of time I lifetap I can cast shadowburn and finish the fight.
For me full mana pool on my pet is better than 1/3.
I am probably as you say newb, I dont keep perfect "steady health/mana cycle", I like to play the way I like to play and I feel fine with that.
I was just pointing out that we have option of 3 points in mana feed and however you may find it "newbish" and pointless there might be some locks that like to have that talent full.
And yeah, I tap when I am out of mana, I thought I actually had that spell to raise my mana, no? Since with my 3/3 I dont have to lifetap too often for my felguard exclusively, I use it for us both mostly.
To tell the truth, I really dont care to be the most effective warlock ever playing WoW, I care for whats fun for me, and specced like I am I have most of the fun playing than with any other spec I tried so far.
I have 7 points in affliction, 43 in demo and 11 in destro.
In the same amount of time I lifetap I can cast shadowburn and finish the fight.
For me full mana pool on my pet is better than 1/3.
I am probably as you say newb, I dont keep perfect "steady health/mana cycle", I like to play the way I like to play and I feel fine with that.
I was just pointing out that we have option of 3 points in mana feed and however you may find it "newbish" and pointless there might be some locks that like to have that talent full.
And yeah, I tap when I am out of mana, I thought I actually had that spell to raise my mana, no? Since with my 3/3 I dont have to lifetap too often for my felguard exclusively, I use it for us both mostly.
To tell the truth, I really dont care to be the most effective warlock ever playing WoW, I care for whats fun for me, and specced like I am I have most of the fun playing than with any other spec I tried so far.
Hey, I truly did not mean to be offensive or anything Sethy.
But I believe that most warlocks (including myself) tend to manage their life and mana, so they don't run dry of mana while having 100% health and then have to life tap 2-3 time to keep up the fight which on some ocassions, can be asking for quite a bum-rap (eg. neglecting to fear a strong add because you have no mana left, life tap and lose life and 2 seconds while the mob beats on you... not a good idea). And it is true that most newb warlocks won't remember they have a spell called Life Tap until they are mana dry (if they do), which is the reason for the comparison.
I use my Felguard with Cleave and taunt on auto usually, and with 1 point I don't have that many mana issues if I just manage it enough, and the Felguard does drink up mana quite fast but not enough for me to need to get him 1/3 of his mana back in one life tap, specially if you use it as a habit and part of your combat strategy.
Putting that point in say, Demonic Resilience would be much more balanced and generally useful in my opinion.
Yeah, If I was lifetapping 3 times per fight it would sure be overfeeding for my felguard.
But I dont.
I do it once in 2 fights, maybe, what is enough for me AND my felguard manawise.
Of course it depends on fight too.
I do remember every spell I have, ty, tho I dont use some of them so often. Heck, I dont think I used CoWeakness since I was like level 4. Still, I remember I have even that.
I wouldnt be putting 2 talent points in improved lifetap if I didnt even know I had it you know... and since I leveled on affliction mostly until 60+ it would be bit funny not to use lifetap along dont you think?
I never got a spell without trying it at least for few days to see how it works and what can I expect out of it. I dont believe in everything I read, even if people sound very sure of what they write, like you, I have to try every single thing for myself.
I was maybe the only one here stating that infernal isnt completely useless, I use him quite often too in certain situations and it works for me fine.
I use felguard with all his abilities on and on defensive if I am solo farming. If I play with my mage friend I manage cleave manually. You dont want AoE around sheeped mobs.
Accordingly I use felguard (or any other of my pets) with/without their abilities depending on with whom and where I play.
I dont have place for that point in demonic resilience, I have 3/3 there too. I could have put it in demonic tactics where I have only 2/5 but I prefere lifetapping less often than that 1%.
Last time I respecced it costed me some +50g or so. I tried different builds quite often. I actually played with each one of them for a while to see how it works for me.
And I find 3/3 in mana feed something that suits me and the way I like to play most.
Edited, Apr 28th 2007 2:45am by Sethy
But I dont.
I do it once in 2 fights, maybe, what is enough for me AND my felguard manawise.
Of course it depends on fight too.
I do remember every spell I have, ty, tho I dont use some of them so often. Heck, I dont think I used CoWeakness since I was like level 4. Still, I remember I have even that.
I wouldnt be putting 2 talent points in improved lifetap if I didnt even know I had it you know... and since I leveled on affliction mostly until 60+ it would be bit funny not to use lifetap along dont you think?
I never got a spell without trying it at least for few days to see how it works and what can I expect out of it. I dont believe in everything I read, even if people sound very sure of what they write, like you, I have to try every single thing for myself.
I was maybe the only one here stating that infernal isnt completely useless, I use him quite often too in certain situations and it works for me fine.
I use felguard with all his abilities on and on defensive if I am solo farming. If I play with my mage friend I manage cleave manually. You dont want AoE around sheeped mobs.
Accordingly I use felguard (or any other of my pets) with/without their abilities depending on with whom and where I play.
I dont have place for that point in demonic resilience, I have 3/3 there too. I could have put it in demonic tactics where I have only 2/5 but I prefere lifetapping less often than that 1%.
Last time I respecced it costed me some +50g or so. I tried different builds quite often. I actually played with each one of them for a while to see how it works for me.
And I find 3/3 in mana feed something that suits me and the way I like to play most.
Edited, Apr 28th 2007 2:45am by Sethy
Recent Visitors: 21
All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (21)
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- My lock is fast approaching 70, hows this build?
© 2024 Fanbyte LLC