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#1 Apr 25 2007 at 5:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello all,
I recently dove back into playing my Affliction spec'd warlock (warrior tank is my main)he is currently in his 46th level as of this morning.

I am wearing the full 40's level (crafted) shadow damage gear currently that has stats to all + shadow damage.

When I troll the AH for gear upgrades I see some pieces that have + spell damage and effects on it.
My main question is: will + spell damage and effects, effect my life tap ability the way + shadow damage does?

So, is it worthwhile to gather gear that is has +shadow over + spell damage, will they pretty much do the same thing for me?

Sorry if thats a newb question, but it's something I dont 100% understand just yet.
Thanks.

Edited, Apr 25th 2007 9:22am by fiftyonefifty
#2 Apr 25 2007 at 5:29 AM Rating: Good
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+shadow damage only affects shadow spells and effects while +spell damage affects every magic school, including shadow. Items with +spell damage usually has +spell healing too which increases your Health Funnel and as well.
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#3 Apr 25 2007 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Sweet, i didnt know it effected HEalth Funnel.
thats great. :)

so ,i'm guessing that Life Tap would be effected by the + spell damage just as much as + shadow.
thanks. before i invested some gold into gear i wanted to be clear on that.
#4 Apr 25 2007 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe so, yes. You'll also notice that your Searing Pain, Soul Fire and Immolate damage goes up.
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#5 Apr 26 2007 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
lifedrain is dependent on + shadow, (I'm told there is no + healing unfortunately) so it depends on what you're doing and how often you use what spells. if you're full affliction, + shadow would probabally be more important If you're a little of everything. then + spell damage would be more important.
if you're destro. + fire would probabally be more important.

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#6 Apr 26 2007 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Eh if you're Affliction, you should beef up Shadow dmg. Spell dmg can also increase you're fire dmg.
#7 Apr 26 2007 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Addermine wrote:
lifedrain is dependent on + shadow, (I'm told there is no + healing unfortunately) so it depends on what you're doing and how often you use what spells. if you're full affliction, + shadow would probabally be more important If you're a little of everything. then + spell damage would be more important.
if you're destro. + fire would probabally be more important.

There is no best answer. the best answer is to kill him quick and ask questions later.


What about us that still like demo above all? And I dont mean little of everything but like 7/43/11?

#8 Apr 26 2007 at 4:43 AM Rating: Good
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What about us that still like demo above all? And I dont mean little of everything but like 7/43/11?


+Int and +Stam because that will increase the amount of stam and int your pet has, which will increase the +spelldmg from Demonic Knowledge, which will in turn feedback onto your pet and increase it's attack and spell power. You still want +spelldmg, however.
#9 Apr 26 2007 at 4:44 AM Rating: Good
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f you're destro. + fire would probabally be more important.


Firelocks focus on +spell crit rating over +spell dmg, actually.
#10 Apr 26 2007 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
probabally because of the cirt from shdowbolt giving them higher dps I believe. good reply, I kept thinking in the box of + shadow vs + spell.
#11 Apr 26 2007 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Addermine wrote:
lifedrain is dependent on + shadow


Drain Life doesn't get the bonus from +spell damage? That's really odd because I have 0 +shadow damage and my Drain Life does 140+ every tick instead of 87.
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Lady Delily wrote:
+Int and +Stam because that will increase the amount of stam and int your pet has, which will increase the +spelldmg from Demonic Knowledge, which will in turn feedback onto your pet and increase it's attack and spell power. You still want +spelldmg, however.


You see, thats what I have been wondering.
I havent gone far into raiding anything because recently my PC seems to have gone wrong and I cant play.

So I am still around green/blue questing rewards parts. But I noticed that every "better" part I get, with more spell damage/crit/hit/etc actually gives me less +sta/int than my old ones.
When I compare some epic tailored thingies with my imbued set, I would loose even more +sta/int.
So how much of everything would be good balance?
Atm I have 525/364 sta/int and +630ish spell damage.

#13 Apr 26 2007 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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When I compare some epic tailored thingies with my imbued set, I would loose even more +sta/int.



It depends on what you're currently using. Look at Frozen Shadoweave and Battlecast sets. If you get more spelldmg from the items bonus and the effect of Demonic Knowledge than your current set, go for it. While stam and int are important stats, our primay stat is +spelldmg.
#14 Apr 26 2007 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I have been looking at Frozen Shadoweave, but it doesnt seem worth dropping herbalism and raising tailoring at the moment I cant do any serious raiding.
If my PC ever get fixed.... :(

#15 Apr 26 2007 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent

If you CAN raid, I don't think you should go nuts over Frozen Shadoweave, althought it is quite nice I don't think it is worth dropping a Profession and then leveling another one up to 375 (believe me, it can be a real bummer).

Anyways, +shadow damage is primarily for Affliction locks, I think Detruction and Demonology should stack up on full +spell damage gear as I think you'd rather up your Dps as a whole than rise it high with one magic school and do **** with the other one (specially now that both specs are or can be effectively based on both fire and shadow damage).

I am demonology and stack mainly spell damage, stamina and intellect for a nice overall effectiveness (I also somehow have around 14% crit or more), but I also keep my bank stocked with a full crit/destruction gear (name says all) and a full raid/dps gear focusing on only spell damage which used to cut my stamina and intellect noticeably (no big deal, don't plan on getting hit much or missing out on my life/mana cycle) but got me to nearly 1000 spell damage when full buffed with no pots/elixirs, by now I'd probably surpass 1k, that'd be if I was still in a raiding guild :S
#16 Apr 26 2007 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Azatodeth wrote:

If you CAN raid, I don't think you should go nuts over Frozen Shadoweave, althought it is quite nice I don't think it is worth dropping a Profession and then leveling another one up to 375 (believe me, it can be a real bummer).


The thing is I got very bored with herbalism. There are never herbs I actually need around and I am sick to death of farming them.
Trust me I know what is to level a skill, I got my deenchanting alt to 225 in one day and I have seen my friend struggling with tailoring to get it to 360ish.

But I dont make lots of potions anymore, nothing but healing and sometimes mana ones sells on my server and I never made any gold with herbs really, I always used them for myself only.

I am not sure I will ever raid as some do, I cant really spend hours (even less on weekends) on any game, I have family and other obligations. My guild is quite a small one too and I doubt it will get much bigger so soon, but people are good friends and that is what matters to me.

So, considering I dont take WoW very seriously and am more of a casual player, but would still like to get some nice gear on my girl..... getting something I could craft myself seems like good option.

#17 Apr 26 2007 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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probabally because of the cirt from shdowbolt giving them higher dps I believe. good reply, I kept thinking in the box of + shadow vs + spell.


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