I have been level 70 for a little while now and I am doing instances, the likes of Shadow Labyrinth but feel i could increase my damage output, I have made this build and would like some input on it please.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?5500211010230100000000000000000000000000000055000510130510531050
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i'm a lvl 63 lock, and i feel u r wasting some valuable talent points if u r looking to do more dmg. U shud max out imp. curse of agony. Get rid of the point spent on life drain in affliction, and get rid of the 5 points u spent on Bane in destruc. Spend the new 5 shadow mastery in afflic. That will increase shadow dmg by 10%.
He can't take the 5 out of Bane, and Shadow Mastery would be useless as he's obviously a Fire lock. Imp CoA is useless, as CoS or CoE will provide more damage on long fights, or Doom if there aren't any other casters.
I don't have a high level warlock, so this is just "educated guess" stuff, but it seems to me like you're splitting your purpose too much. Fire or shadow - pick one. Your stuff in Affliction is contradictory to your stuff in Destro - one is based on shadow damage (instacast shadowbolt in instances), while all your other talents are helping Incinerate. Might be wrong though, and I'm not for sure where else you'd put all the points (machine gun imp? :P)
Unless I'm mistaken, highest damage will pretty much always be Afflic/Ruin.
I don't have a high level warlock, so this is just "educated guess" stuff, but it seems to me like you're splitting your purpose too much. Fire or shadow - pick one. Your stuff in Affliction is contradictory to your stuff in Destro - one is based on shadow damage (instacast shadowbolt in instances), while all your other talents are helping Incinerate. Might be wrong though, and I'm not for sure where else you'd put all the points (machine gun imp? :P)
Unless I'm mistaken, highest damage will pretty much always be Afflic/Ruin.
Later poster, despite his admitted inexperience :) is right. I would concentrate on shadow damage, use conflagrate as appropriate, enjoy the occassional NF proc (which you won't get as many of since you will rarely be using Drain Life), DoT em up and blast away. Don't ignore the anti-interruption stuff in destruction, there's enough "effects" that disrupt that you would definitely miss it.
Suppression isn't that good. Especially at 70. How many things are you gonna run into that are 6 levels higher? Also, a lot of DoTs are instant cast, so it gets resisted...big deal...recast.
This is how I would clean it up. There are still some questionable points in affliction, but I spent them as best I could thinking you wanted Siphon Life.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?2501222010230100000000000000000000000000000555000512200510031050
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 11:54pm by margeux
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 11:59pm by margeux
Suppression isn't that good. Especially at 70. How many things are you gonna run into that are 6 levels higher? Also, a lot of DoTs are instant cast, so it gets resisted...big deal...recast.
This is how I would clean it up. There are still some questionable points in affliction, but I spent them as best I could thinking you wanted Siphon Life.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?2501222010230100000000000000000000000000000555000512200510031050
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 11:54pm by margeux
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 11:59pm by margeux
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I have been giving this some serious thought and have come up with this build, pls give me some come back on this.
All i want is major damage and i dont care how i get it.
Please remember this a build for damage for raids and instances, as i dont do PVP at all.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?0502000000000000000002350000103000000000000555020510230510001050
Edited, Apr 27th 2007 10:38pm by Mocklore
All i want is major damage and i dont care how i get it.
Please remember this a build for damage for raids and instances, as i dont do PVP at all.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?0502000000000000000002350000103000000000000555020510230510001050
Edited, Apr 27th 2007 10:38pm by Mocklore
Take 5 points out of Cataclysm. It sucks. I mean you get like an extra shadowbolt.
Put those 5 points in Emberstorm. I mean 10% more fire damage? That's good.
Take 3 points out of ISearing Pain. Because of the hate mod you will never use it enough to make that talent worthwhile.
Put those points into Backlash. The 3% crit, while not much. Is better than 10% from a spell you'll never use.
You could also put 2 in intensity, but if you are getting hit, it's a better idea to stop casting in an instance.
Take the point out of Fel Domination, It's worthless without Master Summoner.
If you followed my previous advice, I'd put it into Ilifetap.
Put those 5 points in Emberstorm. I mean 10% more fire damage? That's good.
Take 3 points out of ISearing Pain. Because of the hate mod you will never use it enough to make that talent worthwhile.
Put those points into Backlash. The 3% crit, while not much. Is better than 10% from a spell you'll never use.
You could also put 2 in intensity, but if you are getting hit, it's a better idea to stop casting in an instance.
Take the point out of Fel Domination, It's worthless without Master Summoner.
If you followed my previous advice, I'd put it into Ilifetap.
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Unless my train of thought is totally wrong about imporoved shadow bolt, surely it's a solo thing???
I mean you get an extra 20% shadow damage until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied, well in an instance with a mage, warrior, rogue hitting it how long is it going be be until those 4 damage sources have been made, about 2 secs if your lucky i would guess, which to use for 5 talent points for something that cant be used seams a total waste to me, unless i have it TOTALLY wrong.
The reason i ask is that MANY suggested level 70 builds i have seen have those 5 talents points in there.
Edited, Apr 28th 2007 6:12am by Mocklore
I mean you get an extra 20% shadow damage until 4 non-periodic damage sources are applied, well in an instance with a mage, warrior, rogue hitting it how long is it going be be until those 4 damage sources have been made, about 2 secs if your lucky i would guess, which to use for 5 talent points for something that cant be used seams a total waste to me, unless i have it TOTALLY wrong.
The reason i ask is that MANY suggested level 70 builds i have seen have those 5 talents points in there.
Edited, Apr 28th 2007 6:12am by Mocklore
It's only Shadow Damage Spells that consumes the debuff. It also increases the damage you do with your DoTs since they are shadow based.
It's one of the best tier one talents in the game, and even if it wasen't the one next to it is one of the worst ones.
It's one of the best tier one talents in the game, and even if it wasen't the one next to it is one of the worst ones.
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It's only Shadow Damage Spells that consumes the debuff. It also increases the damage you do with your DoTs since they are shadow based.
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Dots are not affected by the debuff of imp SB. need to read that disctription realy hard, the key word is "Non-perodic"
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Posted: Apr 28 2007 at 7:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're missing out on 2 great spells. CoE and Shadowfury. Try to get those two. It'll help when you want to go in battlegrounds sometime or something. Just don't miss out on those 2 when they're right there.
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Dots are not affected by the debuff of imp SB. need to read that disctription realy hard, the key word is "Non-perodic"
Of course if you read it more carefully, you would see its the Non-Periodic damage that consume the debuff. It says nothing about only DD spells getting the benefit. Your dots, (as well as other shadow damage) do get the benefit. At least according to WoWiki, which is a pretty reliable source.
I may just have to eat crow on this one, i will doubble check when I get home.
More than Wiki I trust you as a poster, much like my own knowlage Wikiwow is riddled with old and out of date knowlage(not exculsivly, but it is in their), as well as a lot of player speculations that have little place on a "offical" Wow sourece
More than Wiki I trust you as a poster, much like my own knowlage Wikiwow is riddled with old and out of date knowlage(not exculsivly, but it is in their), as well as a lot of player speculations that have little place on a "offical" Wow sourece
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Yes I have read the decription of improved SB, over and over trying to work this one out.
What it DOESN'T say anywhere, that I can find, is if it has to be 4 non-periodic damage sources from ME or from ANYWHERE.
As i said in an earlier post if it's from ANY source that counts then it's going to last a max of about 2 seconds, with all the other classes hitting the target, which means by the time you have the chance to cast a shadowbolt then your not going to get the cast finished in time to benifit from the extra damage.
Yes I know I would still benifit from the extra shadow damage on whatever DOTs I would have running but again IF it's only for 2 seconds is it worth using those 5 talent points in IMP SB.
As a tool to help solo work then I CAN see it's a very good thing to take but I am raid and instance based now.
PLEASE help me out on this one, maybe someone has taken it, or knows someone that has, and can answer first hand for me, as I can't find an answer one way or the other anywhere.
What it DOESN'T say anywhere, that I can find, is if it has to be 4 non-periodic damage sources from ME or from ANYWHERE.
As i said in an earlier post if it's from ANY source that counts then it's going to last a max of about 2 seconds, with all the other classes hitting the target, which means by the time you have the chance to cast a shadowbolt then your not going to get the cast finished in time to benifit from the extra damage.
Yes I know I would still benifit from the extra shadow damage on whatever DOTs I would have running but again IF it's only for 2 seconds is it worth using those 5 talent points in IMP SB.
As a tool to help solo work then I CAN see it's a very good thing to take but I am raid and instance based now.
PLEASE help me out on this one, maybe someone has taken it, or knows someone that has, and can answer first hand for me, as I can't find an answer one way or the other anywhere.
It's Shadow DD that consumes ISB debuffs. At least from my observations. This is all shadow DD, including wands. I'm fairly certain it is only shadow damage because, 1. I read it. 2. I always have like other people killing the mob too and I rarely see more than 2 debuffs go off.
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