Kitron MacaronFollow

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Kitron_Macaron

Has anyone heard of these? It has been suggested that these boost synthesis in some way and I'm curious if anyone knows more.

Oh man this is gonna be a nightmare to test.

It wouldn't surprise me if foods could affect crafting results though. The things that food might do (and I can think of) are:

1) Reduce risk of break.
2) Reduce materials loss on break.
3) Boost to skill.
4) Straight boost to HQ chance.

(1) and (4) are probably worst to test, but would be testable via the same mechanism. Find some synth where the NQ is more or less break even, but you have a very low HQ chance (trumpet shells come to mind). Do 200-300 synths without the food to establish a baseline (and uncertaintly). Then do 200-300 synths with the food to see if there's a difference.

For 2, you'd just need to get a couple of breaks w/o another thing that affects material loss w/ break.

For 3, check something that you're 1 skill off of, see if your HQ rate is really different.

Just curious, but from where does this eating-food-to-improve-crafting idea stem? I mean, is there any specific occurrences, or is it all just assumed?

People are speculating about it, because

1. The description mentions that it is food beloved by artisans

2. SE seems to have been trying to introduce crafting enhancements lately

3. Nobody can find any other visible effect.

There's some interesting chatter on Japanese sites, which unfortunately I can read only through a translator:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/18422.html&ei=SFM6S8CqH5S6lAfyroynBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Kitron%2BMacaron%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_ja%26num%3D50

Woodcrafting  103 + 7 + Ensorcellment + Lumberjack 
Cooking       101 + 7 
Clothcrafting 82  + 2 
Goldsmithing  60  + 1 
Blacksmithing 65 
Leathercraft  60 
Boneworking   60 
Alchemy       62 
 
 
Fishing       84 

Probably 2). If crafters hate anything, it's losing materials.
It's a 30 minute food after all, so it can't beat anything that currently costs 70-150k GP or costs 360 gil for a few minutes. Material loss reduction would be on par with a semi-permanent moghancement/moglification.

Nice to have, but I'm not paying 50k/12 for it, lol.

Think I have some kitrons on mule still...

The recipie is actually very simple and quite cheap, but it does require the key item Patissier. Quoting the wiki



There isn't anything expensive in there and it can HQ on 3 different tiers. Kitrons sell in the range of 8-10k a stack and the rest is pocket change. If you can make them there isn't really any harm in eating one if you don't plan to head out to battle anytime soon, and for the various crafting mules many people have it's actually very appealing.

I just grabbed two stacks of them on fenrir for 20k each which is 12 hours worth of food, and the supply is pretty decent. To me that's a reasonable markup and is appropriate compensation for the cooks time/effort to make them (plus the key item involved). While I'm not usually big on superstition, in this case I see little harm in trying it out for that price. Being a high level crafter AVOIDING breaks alltogether is more important to me than trying to retain materials after the fact. When stuff like angel skins and orichalcum and khroma ores and siren's hairs and divine logs etc etc etc work as they do when you break, for the cost of a macaron I'd be willing to play the superstition game even if it may give me no benefit.

EDIT: I'm adding some extra information to this. I just tried one of these out and the animation is exactly the same as the one you get from using a guild oriented belt. I used a kitron macaron and the sound and effect and animation were all identical, I actually almost thought I used my goldsmiths belt by mistake. This food screams synthesis oriented of some nature. It gives no visible stats of any form, no boost to MP or HP, no hMP or hHP, and no MAB (tested that myself as well) so it's affecting a hidden stat. I trust that it has a connection to synthesis, and that's good enough for me. I'm sold.

Edited, Jan 8th 2010 10:01am by Melphina